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[jotheonah]

We should strongly consider a massclaim start of day 3.

We'll be at 9 players, 3 scum (barring successful protection) which means we need 5/6 town to agree to get scum exiled without a bus. We're going to need maximum information to have any chance.

[MiX]

I seriously doubt we have two dayvigs but if all three of you would flip at once, it would actually be super helpful.

There are no dayvigs in this setup.

It's a joke

Just had to make sure.

We should strongly consider a massclaim start of day 3.

We'll be at 9 players, 3 scum (barring successful protection) which means we need 5/6 town to agree to get scum exiled without a bus. We're going to need maximum information to have any chance.

No, we'll decide when it comes to that. Tonight a lot can happen.

[jotheonah]

I'm so suspicious of everyone on this wagon, because I literally just could not see the case at all. I think we 100% exile on the gkrieg wagon tomorrow. There is no way that wagon isn't riddled with scum. Gonna say 2/3.

[MiX]

I'm so suspicious of everyone on this wagon, because I literally just could not see the case at all. I think we 100% exile on the gkrieg wagon tomorrow. There is no way that wagon isn't riddled with scum. Gonna say 2/3.

The wagon is trash and once again scum is always in math/joth. They dodged the exile today for no reason.

[mathdude]

We should strongly consider a massclaim start of day 3.

We'll be at 9 players, 3 scum (barring successful protection) which means we need 5/6 town to agree to get scum exiled without a bus. We're going to need maximum information to have any chance.

No, we'll decide when it comes to that. Tonight a lot can happen.

Agree with MiX.  This is a big leap, joth, assuming there will be no successful doctors, roleblockers, or vigilantes (if any are in the setup) tonight.  Also, even cop results may be helpful, standalone, without a massclaim.  We will see what D3 brings.  Don't start hedging already.

[WestCoastDidds]

It is more likely that my wagon is riddled with scum.

[MiX]

We should strongly consider a massclaim start of day 3.

We'll be at 9 players, 3 scum (barring successful protection) which means we need 5/6 town to agree to get scum exiled without a bus. We're going to need maximum information to have any chance.

No, we'll decide when it comes to that. Tonight a lot can happen.

Agree with MiX.  This is a big leap, joth, assuming there will be no successful doctors, roleblockers, or vigilantes (if any are in the setup) tonight.  Also, even cop results may be helpful, standalone, without a massclaim.  We will see what D3 brings.  Don't start hedging already.

Mathdude, joth, vig each other, thank you.

It is more likely that my wagon is riddled with scum.

If gkrieg is town I doubt it.

[gkrieg13]

It is more likely that my wagon is riddled with scum.

But that would mean that only town exiled me, which would just be so much worse.

[jotheonah]

It is more likely that my wagon is riddled with scum.

lolol. yes, as I said before, with no sarcasm and all seriousness, it is always scum who try to derail the wagon last minute, especially when the wagon is on town.

[gkrieg13]

I'm so suspicious of everyone on this wagon, because I literally just could not see the case at all. I think we 100% exile on the gkrieg wagon tomorrow. There is no way that wagon isn't riddled with scum. Gonna say 2/3.

The wagon is trash and once again scum is always in math/joth. They dodged the exile today for no reason.

You understand that you were on the wagon right?

[MiX]

I'm so suspicious of everyone on this wagon, because I literally just could not see the case at all. I think we 100% exile on the gkrieg wagon tomorrow. There is no way that wagon isn't riddled with scum. Gonna say 2/3.

The wagon is trash and once again scum is always in math/joth. They dodged the exile today for no reason.

You understand that you were on the wagon right?

Only because you didn't vote math or joth.

[WestCoastDidds]

It is more likely that my wagon is riddled with scum.

If gkrieg is town I doubt it.

Good point

[jotheonah]

I'm so suspicious of everyone on this wagon, because I literally just could not see the case at all. I think we 100% exile on the gkrieg wagon tomorrow. There is no way that wagon isn't riddled with scum. Gonna say 2/3.

The wagon is trash and once again scum is always in math/joth. They dodged the exile today for no reason.

You understand that you were on the wagon right?

I was not. I moved back to Didds again. I think. I went back and forth a lot of times.

[jotheonah]

MiX, I don't get you. Does the fact that you were wrong here not introduce any trace of humility, any inclination to re-examine whether you might be wrong about other things? Or do you just want to keep bull-headedly leading town down the same wrong path until we lose? Or are you just scum?

[WestCoastDidds]

Well, like every other towns person who has had a wagon on them it is inconceivable to me that town is trying to boot me out!

[MiX]

MiX, I don't get you. Does the fact that you were wrong here not introduce any trace of humility, any inclination to re-examine whether you might be wrong about other things? Or do you just want to keep bull-headedly leading town down the same wrong path until we lose? Or are you just scum?

Excuse me? I voted gkrieg for like 10 minutes before today, and I just didn't want Didds to have to claim for no reason whatsoever. The case on her is even worse than the case on gkrieg, which is saying a lot when there's no case on gkrieg to begin with.

[jotheonah]

Didds' reaction to the last-minute wagon on her is worth a look too. I don't think she professed her towniness one time. She just expressed indignation at it and tried to ward it off on pragmatic terms (only existing wagons are viable). That doesn't jibe with my understanding of town Didds.

And the fact that MiX really wanted to get the hammer in before we could affectively course change (which we almost did) should also make us strongly consider him tomorrow.

[MiX]

Didds' reaction to the last-minute wagon on her is worth a look too. I don't think she professed her towniness one time. She just expressed indignation at it and tried to ward it off on pragmatic terms (only existing wagons are viable). That doesn't jibe with my understanding of town Didds.

And the fact that MiX really wanted to get the hammer in before we could affectively course change (which we almost did) should also make us strongly consider him tomorrow.

The CFD was anti-town. Not going to math or joth would never, ever, flip scum. And Didds is townie, so what the hell.

[jotheonah]

Sorry, I'm being too salty here.

I like you guys, I don't want to be mean to you.

Tomorrow will be great. We'll have lots of info to work with.

[jotheonah]

Not going to math or joth would never, ever, flip scum.

This is provably, objectively untrue since there are three scum and only two of me and math.

[MiX]

Not going to math or joth would never, ever, flip scum.

This is provably, objectively untrue since there are three scum and only two of me and math.

Well...not if you, math and gkrieg are all scum.

[jotheonah]

Not going to math or joth would never, ever, flip scum.

This is provably, objectively untrue since there are three scum and only two of me and math.

Well...not if you, math and gkrieg are all scum.

Well if that turns out to be the case, shame on gkrieg for trolling, shame on me for trolling, and good for you for catching the whole scum team and winning the game.

[Swowl]

Here. And glancing doesn’t look like I need to be. Are we done for the day?

[MiX]

Not going to math or joth would never, ever, flip scum.

This is provably, objectively untrue since there are three scum and only two of me and math.

Well...not if you, math and gkrieg are all scum.

Well if that turns out to be the case, shame on gkrieg for trolling, shame on me for trolling, and good for you for catching the whole scum team and winning the game.

...which is why it doesn't matter if things are objectively untrue, what matters is what things might as well be true because otherwise the game's a lock.

For example, if scum helps town CFD onto a scum partner for no reason, then yes, scum can flip, but why would they do that.

Here. And glancing doesn’t look like I need to be. Are we done for the day?

Unvote

Probably.

[iguanaiguana]

Joth is being really self righteous : ( Also scum often claims town after an exile because it can throw off exactly these kinds of twilight discussions. So there is absolutely still a chance that gkrieg is scum.