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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #600 on: April 29, 2020, 11:01:41 am »

What could a baseball cap do? If MM gets lynched, whomever needs the cap can’t get it.
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #601 on: April 29, 2020, 11:02:45 am »

Unvote

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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #602 on: April 29, 2020, 11:04:35 am »

For the record, I feel like tying people up to jailkeep them is a bit of a stretch.  What if he's a scum roleblocker and made up the doc part?

Weird, I presumed one of skip/mail had the rope-becomes-JK part.

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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #603 on: April 29, 2020, 11:04:44 am »

What could a baseball cap do? If MM gets lynched, whomever needs the cap can’t get it.

What indeed.
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #604 on: April 29, 2020, 11:05:40 am »

There are a handful of us here....lynch MM, lynch skip, or no lynch are the most plausible options.

The stuff component make a lynch more consequential than usual (and interesting! Thanks Glooble!) so not lynching is perhaps advantageous.

Unless a ball cap is not at all valuable....
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #605 on: April 29, 2020, 11:07:12 am »

What could a baseball cap do? If MM gets lynched, whomever needs the cap can’t get it.

What indeed.

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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #606 on: April 29, 2020, 11:07:47 am »

Point of note: Skip is the first to claim an item, in post #100. So before even ADK's plan, Skip is out there claiming stuff. Sounds like a way to goad out other claims, which is scummy.

He also continually clarifies himself about his "I have an item to give to someone plan." I find myself correcting my plans and finetuning them unnecessarily more as scum so I don't get caught with a bad, scummy plan.

Before skip goes for me, he's not pushing a 1v1. He's keeping his options open, asking others about what he should do, etc. Not until after I post does he vote for me, and he does say he's going to leave it there for the rest of the day. So he pushes the 1v1 more than I thought he did, but what else does he do at that point?

He also allows me to claim the item first, leaving all his options open again.

Also, his defense at post 316 is perfect for tomorrow when I flip town. "Come on, you think I'd do this as scum? I'm not that dumb." It's a bunch of WIFOM that doesn't turn out to be a good defense.

Also there's his unreasonable expectation of me, which Galz pointed out, that no other person who posted a list said "Whoa this is a potential 1v1, we should look into this." Not necessarily alignment indicative, but it's still there.
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #607 on: April 29, 2020, 11:08:30 am »

There are a handful of us here....lynch MM, lynch skip, or no lynch are the most plausible options.

The stuff component make a lynch more consequential than usual (and interesting! Thanks Glooble!) so not lynching is perhaps advantageous.

Unless a ball cap is not at all valuable....

For the record, the description of the baseball cap doesn't give me any hints as to what it could be used for or who needs it.
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #608 on: April 29, 2020, 11:08:33 am »

What could a baseball cap do? If MM gets lynched, whomever needs the cap can’t get it.

What indeed.

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TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #609 on: April 29, 2020, 11:08:54 am »

I for one am unimpressed with the claim. A scum jailkeeper is a little weird, but not impossible, especially if this is multiball. And he could absolutely just be a roleblocker. Or it could all be a lie.

I'm a little skeptical that scum would be weak enough that they have to work for their PR(s) but of course we don't have nearly enough info to make that judgement.

That said, if we don't have the votes to lynch mail-mi and we have an hour left... skip? ADK (I liked Galz's case)?

I really doubt we can get a non-skip non-mail-mi lynch through. So if we don't have the votes for mail-mi, I guess I can switch to skip to get a lynch. Maybe skip should claim too at this point?

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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #610 on: April 29, 2020, 11:09:43 am »

Note that from my reads post I townread skip now, so I don't want to lynch him.
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #611 on: April 29, 2020, 11:10:10 am »

I guess if someone needs the ball cap, and thinks it very valuable, now would be the time to claim that.
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #612 on: April 29, 2020, 11:11:07 am »

I guess I can switch to skip to get a lynch.

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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #613 on: April 29, 2020, 11:11:33 am »

Point of note: Skip is the first to claim an item, in post #100. So before even ADK's plan, Skip is out there claiming stuff. Sounds like a way to goad out other claims, which is scummy.

He also continually clarifies himself about his "I have an item to give to someone plan." I find myself correcting my plans and finetuning them unnecessarily more as scum so I don't get caught with a bad, scummy plan.

Before skip goes for me, he's not pushing a 1v1. He's keeping his options open, asking others about what he should do, etc. Not until after I post does he vote for me, and he does say he's going to leave it there for the rest of the day. So he pushes the 1v1 more than I thought he did, but what else does he do at that point?

He also allows me to claim the item first, leaving all his options open again.

Also, his defense at post 316 is perfect for tomorrow when I flip town. "Come on, you think I'd do this as scum? I'm not that dumb." It's a bunch of WIFOM that doesn't turn out to be a good defense.

Also there's his unreasonable expectation of me, which Galz pointed out, that no other person who posted a list said "Whoa this is a potential 1v1, we should look into this." Not necessarily alignment indicative, but it's still there.

I find all of this to be a bit silly, because I feel like all of the stuff skip has done makes sense as town.
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #614 on: April 29, 2020, 11:12:16 am »

What could a baseball cap do? If MM gets lynched, whomever needs the cap can’t get it.

What indeed.

Come on, Galzy. Drop some knowledge on me.

I'm waitin' on you! No?

Not me. I don’t need the baseball cap, and I don’t have any guesses
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #615 on: April 29, 2020, 11:13:01 am »

I find all of this to be a bit silly, because I feel like all of the stuff skip has done makes sense as town.

Like if it was town v town
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #616 on: April 29, 2020, 11:13:47 am »

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skip wooznum (6): Awaclus, mail-mi, scolapasta, MiX, Joseph2303, Galzria
mail-mi (6): skip wooznum, LaLight, faust, A Drowned Kernel, sudgy, jotheonah
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #617 on: April 29, 2020, 11:14:35 am »

I don't have a big enough scumread on anyone else.

I blame short day.
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #618 on: April 29, 2020, 11:14:49 am »

I guess I can switch to skip to get a lynch.

Convenient

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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #619 on: April 29, 2020, 11:14:57 am »

Point of note: Skip is the first to claim an item, in post #100. So before even ADK's plan, Skip is out there claiming stuff. Sounds like a way to goad out other claims, which is scummy.

He also continually clarifies himself about his "I have an item to give to someone plan." I find myself correcting my plans and finetuning them unnecessarily more as scum so I don't get caught with a bad, scummy plan.

Before skip goes for me, he's not pushing a 1v1. He's keeping his options open, asking others about what he should do, etc. Not until after I post does he vote for me, and he does say he's going to leave it there for the rest of the day. So he pushes the 1v1 more than I thought he did, but what else does he do at that point?

He also allows me to claim the item first, leaving all his options open again.

Also, his defense at post 316 is perfect for tomorrow when I flip town. "Come on, you think I'd do this as scum? I'm not that dumb." It's a bunch of WIFOM that doesn't turn out to be a good defense.

Also there's his unreasonable expectation of me, which Galz pointed out, that no other person who posted a list said "Whoa this is a potential 1v1, we should look into this." Not necessarily alignment indicative, but it's still there.

I find all of this to be a bit silly, because I feel like all of the stuff skip has done makes sense as town.

It also makes sense as scum. Scum want to make sense as well, you see.
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #620 on: April 29, 2020, 11:14:59 am »

What could a baseball cap do? If MM gets lynched, whomever needs the cap can’t get it.

What indeed.

Come on, Galzy. Drop some knowledge on me.

I'm waitin' on you! No?

Not me. I don’t need the baseball cap, and I don’t have any guesses

Ah, well, nevermind then. I'll say that if I *had* the baseball cap to give, you would've been the person I sent it to. But I don't know any more about it than you do it seems.
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TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #621 on: April 29, 2020, 11:16:21 am »

Point of note: Skip is the first to claim an item, in post #100. So before even ADK's plan, Skip is out there claiming stuff. Sounds like a way to goad out other claims, which is scummy.

He also continually clarifies himself about his "I have an item to give to someone plan." I find myself correcting my plans and finetuning them unnecessarily more as scum so I don't get caught with a bad, scummy plan.

Before skip goes for me, he's not pushing a 1v1. He's keeping his options open, asking others about what he should do, etc. Not until after I post does he vote for me, and he does say he's going to leave it there for the rest of the day. So he pushes the 1v1 more than I thought he did, but what else does he do at that point?

He also allows me to claim the item first, leaving all his options open again.

Also, his defense at post 316 is perfect for tomorrow when I flip town. "Come on, you think I'd do this as scum? I'm not that dumb." It's a bunch of WIFOM that doesn't turn out to be a good defense.

Also there's his unreasonable expectation of me, which Galz pointed out, that no other person who posted a list said "Whoa this is a potential 1v1, we should look into this." Not necessarily alignment indicative, but it's still there.

I find all of this to be a bit silly, because I feel like all of the stuff skip has done makes sense as town.

It also makes sense as scum. Scum want to make sense as well, you see.

Yeah, but scum is statistically less likely than town.  You want to find stuff that makes sense as scum but not as town.
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #622 on: April 29, 2020, 11:17:25 am »

Point of note: Skip is the first to claim an item, in post #100. So before even ADK's plan, Skip is out there claiming stuff. Sounds like a way to goad out other claims, which is scummy.

He also continually clarifies himself about his "I have an item to give to someone plan." I find myself correcting my plans and finetuning them unnecessarily more as scum so I don't get caught with a bad, scummy plan.

Before skip goes for me, he's not pushing a 1v1. He's keeping his options open, asking others about what he should do, etc. Not until after I post does he vote for me, and he does say he's going to leave it there for the rest of the day. So he pushes the 1v1 more than I thought he did, but what else does he do at that point?

He also allows me to claim the item first, leaving all his options open again.

Also, his defense at post 316 is perfect for tomorrow when I flip town. "Come on, you think I'd do this as scum? I'm not that dumb." It's a bunch of WIFOM that doesn't turn out to be a good defense.

Also there's his unreasonable expectation of me, which Galz pointed out, that no other person who posted a list said "Whoa this is a potential 1v1, we should look into this." Not necessarily alignment indicative, but it's still there.

I find all of this to be a bit silly, because I feel like all of the stuff skip has done makes sense as town.

It also makes sense as scum. Scum want to make sense as well, you see.

Yeah, but scum is statistically less likely than town.  You want to find stuff that makes sense as scum but not as town.

And scum tries to do things that make sense as town, not as scum. C'mon. This circle can play 'round all day.
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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #623 on: April 29, 2020, 11:18:02 am »

What could a baseball cap do? If MM gets lynched, whomever needs the cap can’t get it.

What indeed.

Come on, Galzy. Drop some knowledge on me.

I'm waitin' on you! No?

Not me. I don’t need the baseball cap, and I don’t have any guesses

Ah, well, nevermind then. I'll say that if I *had* the baseball cap to give, you would've been the person I sent it to. But I don't know any more about it than you do it seems.

I definitely need something but that’s not it!
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #624 on: April 29, 2020, 11:18:13 am »

Unofficial Vote Count

skip wooznum (6): Awaclus, mail-mi, scolapasta, MiX, Joseph2303, Galzria
mail-mi (6): skip wooznum, LaLight, faust, A Drowned Kernel, sudgy, jotheonah
Awaclus (1): Eevee
Not voting (1): DatSwan

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