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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #525 on: June 07, 2020, 01:19:43 pm »

Here's the place where joth stated he posted his NL suggestion to fish for reactions, GHS.

There's a big difference between those two responses. EFHW says "I disagree with joth and his reasons were strange (i.e. the suggestion seems inauthentic)" That's not scummy. chairs response was "No lynch is bad therefore the suggestor of no lynch must be scum." It's just an easy knee-jerk jump at the chance for a consensus mislynch. It's the exact response I was fishing for with the NL suggestion.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #526 on: June 07, 2020, 01:24:06 pm »

My town pings/reads right now

Galz
Greathallscout
Didds
Eddie

So let's cut Eddie from that list and add a couple:

Galz
GHS
WCD
Rhand
LaLight
Faust
Glooble
cayvie, it seems you have a bad habit of voting for your townreads. Should I be worried?
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #527 on: June 07, 2020, 01:25:48 pm »

My town pings/reads right now

Galz
Greathallscout
Didds
Eddie

So let's cut Eddie from that list and add a couple:

Galz
GHS
WCD
Rhand
LaLight
Faust
Glooble
cayvie, it seems you have a bad habit of voting for your townreads. Should I be worried?

Yes.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #528 on: June 07, 2020, 01:27:23 pm »

@Rhand- helpful cayvie provides I formation that helps clarify. Not helpful cayvie says things that muddy the water, but seem true.  So, I think she is being helpful right now....the post above is an example. That’s work she did t have to do.

@GHS (which in my mind has become Great Caesar’s Ghost!)- your are correct that Jimmmmm only has one post (that I can recall) but it is a more substantial one that usual from him, and it reminds me that he is smart and good. ScumJim doesn’t bother trying to be helpful.

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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #529 on: June 07, 2020, 01:30:28 pm »

Making decisions based on things we don't know is anti-town.
Are you arguing for a no lynch?
No lol
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (PMs sent!)
« Reply #530 on: June 07, 2020, 03:18:01 pm »

"They are aflame. They burn. They bring the darkness when they come, and so all you can see is that their skin is aflame. Burn, burn, burn..."

—Collected on Palahishev 1172, 21 seconds pre-death, by the Silent Gatherers. Subject was a baker's apprentice.


Vote Count 1.4

jotheonah (2): chairs, hypercube
Galzria (1): Swowl
chairs (2): jotheonah, WestCoastDidds
MiX (1): Dylan32
EFHW (1): faust
GreatHallScout (4): Rhand, MiX, Glooble, cayvie
scolapasta (1): Uncleeurope
faust (1): Galzria
Glooble (1): LaLight
hypercube (1): EFHW

Not Voting (3): scolapasta, GreatHallScout, Jimmmmm

With 18 alive it takes 10 to lynch.

Day 1 ends at 3:00pm FT on June 12, 2020.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #531 on: June 07, 2020, 03:28:04 pm »


mmm vote: GreatHallScout

this feels like a faked readlist

1) the sincerity of joth's no lynch suggestion is a poor reason to townread him. after all, he has stated that he posted it to fish for reactions.

2) implying that there's probably scum between EFHW and faust feels artificial (why would that be the case? because faust wants to lynch EFHW?) and the sort of thing one might include if one was hypothetically thinking "hmm gotta say something bout these players, and gotta include some scum on my list"

3) Glooble and chairs are very safe people to say you suspect. this whole list is very safe.

4) how in particular do you see Swowl being helpful? he's stuck to setup talk and hasn't said diddly about his thoughts on other players.

1) I must've missed where joth said they did it for reactions. I wasn't saying that's why i think they are town just that i didn't think it was scummy. i think he is town mostly because he directly pointed out the "game design flaw"

2) I was really intending on making a list and i based it vaguely on the order of WCDs post I'm not sure why you might think this isnt sincere? if you think it's just pointless- well I'm making a list.

4) i said swowl seems to be TRYING to be helpful. basically meant i don't have much on him.

Hey thanks for responding!

1) If joth's sincerity wasn't why you thought he was town, why did you include it as a parenthetical in a statement where you stated you thought he was town? And why not include the actual reasoning behind your townread if you had it?

"Mix, joth(i think their no-lynch seemed sincere even though i disagree) and Cavie seems the most town to me." implies pretty hard that the no-lynch suggestion is the reason you think joth is town. If you actually think he's town for pointing out game design flaws, why not say that in your read list where you state your read on him? That would be the logical thing to do, no?

2) Why were you intent on making a reads list?

3) error file not found

4) Why state that Swowl is trying to be helpful if you don't actually have a read on him?

Your Welcome!

1)I probably could have phrased it better- i guess i thought it was obvious why I thought joth was town since other people responded that they were town after the house-issue. I felt the need to explain why i thought i didnt care too much for the No lynch since some players seemed it was bad enough to think he is scum(that was the parentheses part).

2) I like getting information out there in general. i think its generally good to see where people are holding.

3) rofl! There wasn't much to say to this. I think they seem scummy. If it's "safe".... well what should i do? not post it?

4) I wanted to have all of the players down and i didnt have much on them and was tired at the end of my reading people
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #532 on: June 07, 2020, 04:12:05 pm »

Vote: Glooble, I remember him wanting to be a wagon that then dissipates, let's do step 1 now.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #533 on: June 07, 2020, 04:26:06 pm »

Sorry I haven’t had much time this weekend. I’m happy with my vote where it is. I’m townreading cayvie pretty hard right now and her logic makes sense to me. Feel a little bad about stringing up a newbie day one, if I see a solid case on a more veteran player I’ll swap.

Vote: Glooble, I remember him wanting to be a wagon that then dissipates, let's do step 1 now.

Yeah earlier in the day is definitely better if it’s going to happen but tbh I don’t think it will have any traction.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #534 on: June 07, 2020, 04:42:36 pm »

Vote: glooble. Last post felt less than town.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #535 on: June 07, 2020, 04:44:18 pm »

Rhand, I don't know if you've said previously here or not, but do you have much mafia experience either here or on other sites?
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #536 on: June 07, 2020, 04:47:17 pm »

Huh, just noticed MiX left the only semi-real wagon (on GHS) to join LL on Glooble. I tend to think Glooble is a good person to wagon right now, but just noting it now for future memory.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #537 on: June 07, 2020, 05:04:46 pm »

Rhand, I don't know if you've said previously here or not, but do you have much mafia experience either here or on other sites?

I can help a little....He was in the mafia championships game with cayvie. She recruited him.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #538 on: June 07, 2020, 05:08:15 pm »

Rhand, I don't know if you've said previously here or not, but do you have much mafia experience either here or on other sites?
I play since 2012, almost exclusively on mtgsalvation
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #539 on: June 07, 2020, 05:29:11 pm »

Vote: glooble. Last post felt less than town.

Your FACE feels less than town.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #540 on: June 07, 2020, 05:54:09 pm »

what happens if two alignment inverters target the same player?
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #541 on: June 07, 2020, 06:18:16 pm »

what happens if two alignment inverters target the same player?

It would be the same as if 1 alignment inverter had targeted the player.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #542 on: June 07, 2020, 06:36:11 pm »

Good question, cayvie. Townpoints, since I would've expected it to be the same as if 0 inverters targeted.

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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #543 on: June 07, 2020, 06:48:06 pm »

i missed when we got to talk about alignment inverters?
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #544 on: June 07, 2020, 06:55:19 pm »

Good question, cayvie. Townpoints, since I would've expected it to be the same as if 0 inverters targeted.

Ok chairs is scum.

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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #545 on: June 07, 2020, 07:28:01 pm »

Rhand, I don't know if you've said previously here or not, but do you have much mafia experience either here or on other sites?
I play since 2012, almost exclusively on mtgsalvation

Between Didd's and your answer, that makes sense. You've been asking some pretty good questions/picking up on things that seemed well beyond new player territory, so I thought that might be the case. Softens the town read a little bit, because if you were new and playing this game I was leaning strong town. As it is you may have the chops to fake it, so now it's just a mild town read.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #546 on: June 07, 2020, 07:29:16 pm »

Vote: glooble. Last post felt less than town.

Your FACE feels less than town.

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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #547 on: June 07, 2020, 07:30:23 pm »

i missed when we got to talk about alignment inverters?

Not sure that's been a full convo yet. What would you like to say about them?
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #548 on: June 07, 2020, 07:46:42 pm »

i missed when we got to talk about alignment inverters?

Not sure that's been a full convo yet. What would you like to say about them?

that it's the first time i hear about them and that they can't exist  in this game
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #549 on: June 07, 2020, 07:49:57 pm »

i missed when we got to talk about alignment inverters?

Not sure that's been a full convo yet. What would you like to say about them?

that it's the first time i hear about them and that they can't exist  in this game

I trust this claim. I had the same thought when looking at the setup.

I'm probably reading too much into this. chairs/Glooble/greathall are good scummies that should be pushed today, then we drop Glooble and pickup hypercube or something. I don't even know every player in this game lol.
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