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[A Drowned Kernel]

I think I find myself agreeing with e most here. Also I don't see the harm in round claiming, which is why I did it. There is a sort of benefit in dividing town into two groups, which can help with PoE.

I think draft order is a little too much info that's helpful to scum, not town.

How does dividing town into two essentially arbitrary groups help us?

I guess it was this? It seems like a made up answer. I'm not super gung ho about a mail-mi lynch but I'm feeling pretty town on most of the louder people (ash, faust, cayvie) and am not sure why some people are opposed to lynching mail-mi

[Swowl]

Vote Count 1.6:


Mail-Mi (4): Jimmm, LaLight, E!, ADK
Ashersky (3): EFHW, scolapasta, MiX
LaLight (3):  WCD, Cayvie, MailMi
Scolapasta (2): Shraeye, faust
RaptorSlayer (1): Glooble
Shraeye (1): RaptorSlayer
faust (1): Ashersky

Not Voting (1):  Lekkit,

With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

Deadline is 9:15pm Forum Time on March 24th.


*A note from the MODs - please remember this is a game to have fun in. Please keep everything in the game, game-related, and respect your fellow players.*

[WestCoastDidds]

Saturday night isolation style....

Baking sourdough bread, drinking beer, and watching Top Chef!

Party on, excellent!

[cayvie]

Saturday night isolation style....

Baking sourdough bread, drinking beer, and watching Top Chef!

Party on, excellent!

a cooking reality show themed mafia game sounds fun! like a bake-off game where you can have night actions to affect each others bakes or something

[faust]

I feel like the mail-mi and ashersky wagons have no substance, it's all being scumread for their playstyles.

There is a LaLight wagon but at the moment I cannot remember why. Which I guess is better than remembering why and finding the reason unconvincing.

It's not the worst to go for a lurker lynch today, but I think I'd prefer someone like Raptor or Lekkit if we go there. And of course we still have decent lynch choices in scolapasta and e.

[ashersky]

Ok, I spent the afternoon rereading. I'm sorry I've been a bit AWOL. liopoil is back from college (sad for him, but nice for us), and we've been doing impossible puzzles from an event at his school. I'm sticking with my ash vote. Creating chaos, doubling and tripling down on faust, and concocting a plan that would only benefit scum. There was no town reason to pursue that shaky a plan. Round claiming was a bad idea.

I do think it's too bad [post restriction], I'll tell you after the game.

I don't think (post restriction) matters. Take that as you will.

As he's fought faust and you're you, I'd love to see what ash's original thoughts were when he called for the round claim. If he said them and I missed them, please quote them for me, thanks in advance.

He said he was trying to catch scum in a lie. It would be pointless to lie as scum since the numbers have to add up. But he got almost everyone to follow him.

Wait. That was it?

Vote: ash while he answers. L-?, I remember a bunch of votes.

Answer what?  I explained it all in detail, and someone even complained that I gave away too much information in my explanation.  But yes, the short of it is I wanted to catch someone in a lie.  (There was also the possibility that there could be shenanigans with the draft we didn't know, so that seemed like a useful thing to pick up on.)

[ashersky]

[out of game voice]faust -- I read and acknowledge your reply.  I'm sorry you think I don't like you -- in actuality you are top tier for me as far as anyone I know on the Internet.  Wicked smart and funny, a fellow creative mod and game designer, and a worthy teammate or opponent.  If my in-game antics have led you to think I felt the opposite outside of the mafiaverse, I apologize.

I know I can be as grating as anyone, and I was needling you pretty consistently on something that I am sure frustrated you.  I didn't appreciate the way you chose to respond; I have a pretty thick skin, so I'm fine after a bit of time, but not everyone is as resilient, I don't think.  Issues of self-worth and self-confidence have become yet another all too real part of the bad side of the Internet (and the world, I guess). So again, thanks for the thoughtful response.[/out of game voice]

[ashersky]

Lurker lynch isn't the worst -- I like Lekkit for that.  That's NAI though.

I guess a side effect of a few players talking a lot on a few topics is that there aren't a lot of options for scummy players to do scummy things.

[ashersky]

Between you guys, faust is scummy.

No no, I didn't want that narrow of an answer.  I mean, in this game, the full 16 player list we're thinking about, what opinions do you have other than a philosophical position against faust?

I did a popsquiz between the post you quote and your clarification.  So that's my basic spectrum.

[ashersky]

Between you guys, faust is scummy.

No no, I didn't want that narrow of an answer.  I mean, in this game, the full 16 player list we're thinking about, what opinions do you have other than a philosophical position against faust?

I did a popsquiz between the post you quote and your clarification.  So that's my basic spectrum.

I mean, it's day 1.  I'm happy to have one strong scum read.  I'm also happy to "trim the fat," as it were, by removing a player that isn't contributing, or that sits in the neutral zone between pro- and anti-town.

[ashersky]

Also, LL is towny so far when taking into consideration his District QT posts.

[MiX]

Answer what?  I explained it all in detail, and someone even complained that I gave away too much information in my explanation.  But yes, the short of it is I wanted to catch someone in a lie.  (There was also the possibility that there could be shenanigans with the draft we didn't know, so that seemed like a useful thing to pick up on.)

I guess I always expect more of you.

Unvote

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Also, LL is towny so far when taking into consideration his District QT posts.

Yeah, I was curious about this. I feel like LaLight hasn't posted a ton in thread, or at least less than I would expect.

But I could also totally see them posting more of their thoughts in a shared qt rather than in thread

[shraeye]

Between you guys, faust is scummy.

No no, I didn't want that narrow of an answer.  I mean, in this game, the full 16 player list we're thinking about, what opinions do you have other than a philosophical position against faust?

I did a popsquiz between the post you quote and your clarification.  So that's my basic spectrum.

popsquizzes are lame; no substance

[shraeye]

I mean, it's day 1.  I'm happy to have one strong scum read.  I'm also happy to "trim the fat," as it were, by removing a player that isn't contributing, or that sits in the neutral zone between pro- and anti-town.

This is better

[LaLight]

Also, LL is towny so far when taking into consideration his District QT posts.

Yeah, I was curious about this. I feel like LaLight hasn't posted a ton in thread, or at least less than I would expect.

But I could also totally see them posting more of their thoughts in a shared qt rather than in thread

i actually have never been in a neighbourhood, after hundreds of games

i have been in masonry couple  of times, but this thing is different. although, at one point i have made a decision to trust ash completely, so here goes

[EFHW]

Answer what?  I explained it all in detail, and someone even complained that I gave away too much information in my explanation.  But yes, the short of it is I wanted to catch someone in a lie.  (There was also the possibility that there could be shenanigans with the draft we didn't know, so that seemed like a useful thing to pick up on.)

I guess I always expect more of you.

Unvote

It doesn't bother you that the claiming was hurtful to town?

[MiX]

Answer what?  I explained it all in detail, and someone even complained that I gave away too much information in my explanation.  But yes, the short of it is I wanted to catch someone in a lie.  (There was also the possibility that there could be shenanigans with the draft we didn't know, so that seemed like a useful thing to pick up on.)

I guess I always expect more of you.

Unvote

It doesn't bother you that the claiming was hurtful to town?

It could've helped town if certain people had followed through, and plans aren't scummy by themselves.

[faust]

Well, scolapasta is clearly going nowhere, might as well

Vote: MiX

[EFHW]

Answer what?  I explained it all in detail, and someone even complained that I gave away too much information in my explanation.  But yes, the short of it is I wanted to catch someone in a lie.  (There was also the possibility that there could be shenanigans with the draft we didn't know, so that seemed like a useful thing to pick up on.)

I guess I always expect more of you.

Unvote

It doesn't bother you that the claiming was hurtful to town?

It could've helped town if certain people had followed through, and plans aren't scummy by themselves.

Why not?

What benefit would you have now if I had followed through?

[MiX]

It could've helped town if certain people had followed through, and plans aren't scummy by themselves.

Why not?

What benefit would you have now if I had followed through?

I supported the round claim, so it can't inherently be scummy. Not to mention it seems perfectly in line with ash. NAI at best.

It would (and will) have some benefit down the line and right now is the best time to round claim because then people start dying and we lose information. Also scum has no reason to lie if we do it early, so we get truth.

[shraeye]

Answer what?  I explained it all in detail, and someone even complained that I gave away too much information in my explanation.  But yes, the short of it is I wanted to catch someone in a lie.  (There was also the possibility that there could be shenanigans with the draft we didn't know, so that seemed like a useful thing to pick up on.)

I guess I always expect more of you.

Unvote

It doesn't bother you that the claiming was hurtful to town?

Town is hurt?  I don't buy it.

[WestCoastDidds]

Also, LL is towny so far when taking into consideration his District QT posts.

Hmmm....this is good to know. I believe Ash to be town (at least for now, he has fooled me before, so there is that) so I’m willing to trust his assessment for now.

I’ve been voting for LL for awhile now, but not for any reason of substance, just general feelings.

Vote: Lekkit

I have no reason not to find them scummy at this point... I have a slight preference for them over Raptor because there was that one game one time that raptor was awesome on D2.

PPE...a rather interesting discussion with MiX

[MiX]

So many people looking towny, and because of all the neighborhoods I have a strange feeling of not wanting to lynch anyone.

Vote: Lekkit

I have no reason not to find them scummy at this point... I have a slight preference for them over Raptor because there was that one game one time that raptor was awesome on D2.

Hey! You take that back if you're referring to what I believe you are referring to! How could I have known 

I'm having a strange third-party read off Didds here, actually. Feels like she knows much more than she's letting us know, but not necessarily in a scummy way. Not lynching anyway, hoods do this.

[shraeye]

I'm having a strange third-party read off Didds here, actually. Feels like she knows much more than she's letting us know, but not necessarily in a scummy way. Not lynching anyway, hoods do this.

How would a third-party know more than a town member?