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[Glooble]

faust is that one less than usual or one les than yesterday (and therefore two less than usual)?

[Awaclus]

Bold of us to assume “Radch-aligned” = the good guys, I suppose.

Vote: Glooble

[WestCoastDidds]

Hooray!! LL was scum!

Losing a jailkeeper is tough. Pour one out for Swan. And for Hyper. You will be missed. I definitely town read Swan, so I’m glad my sense of things was right, but I wasn’t expecting him to get whacked. I guess that is the nature of the NK. Le sigh...

It took me awhile to wrap my mind around Breq being a baddie, but it makes some sense. She’s the one trying to change things. Breq was the the main protagonist, so her death is a big win. Yeah us!

I’m in Omaha for work today. I won’t be around at all, but I’m flying back to warmer places tomorrow and will be more available en route. For anyone else in the band of the polar vortex, stay warm friends.

[faust]

faust is that one less than usual or one les than yesterday (and therefore two less than usual)?

One less than she would otherwise.

[jotheonah]

I have a whole thing I wrote yesterday but it’s on my computer and I’m on my phone. I’ll post it in a couple hours.

Anyway, vote: mail-mi

[ashersky]

Bold of us to assume “Radch-aligned” = the good guys, I suppose.

Vote: Glooble

Um, yeah.  What?

vote: Glooble

[jotheonah]

Glooble is talking about the flavor. Breq is the main good guy in the books. Faust did a funny thing with the setup.

Also Glooble STARTED the LaLight wagon, she’s super-towny right now.

Ash, you got another dayvig? If you shoot Awaclus and we lynch mail-mi I’m pretty sure we win.

[jotheonah]

Here's the thing I wrote right after the lynch:

"First off, this flip explains a lot of the weird flavor stuff. We’re the bad guys.

Enemies of the Radch are the protagonists of the book, Breq is the main character. Very funny/clever on Faust’s part. That means it’s very likely the other Aanander Miannii is town-aligned.

Strong-Willed means roleblocker/redirector powers don’t work on LaLight. Ninja means they won’t be seen by a tracker. Restricted though, idk. The only thing on Mafia Scum is post restrictions. It’s possible there were things LaLight was not allowed to say. I have a vague memory that this was an issue for Breq in the books, but maybe I’m mixing it up with “A Closed and Common Orbit” which has a similar character (an AI incognito in a human body) who can’t lie.

Second, mail-mi’s claim yesterday was super-duper scummy. I didn’t see it until after the thread lock but, jeez. I’m a cop, but the only result I’ll be able to give you tomorrow is the one you already know about. How very convenient!

I’m writing this during the night, so I’m not putting a vote down because I’ll get a lot more info when the day starts, but man that claim stunk.

Finally, welcome to the game Umbrage! Looking forward to your contributions.

Oh, and let me throw in a “Yay, we caught scum!” This flip makes Glooble look especially good unless she is committing a really masterful bus that I would not expect out of her in particular or a quasi-newbie in general. It makes Awaclus and mail-mi look bad."

[Awaclus]

Also Glooble STARTED the LaLight wagon, she’s super-towny right now.

How do you explain the post I was quoting if Glooble is town?

[Awaclus]

Here's the thing I wrote right after the lynch

Paraphrased, I assume?

[faust]

Here's the thing I wrote right after the lynch:

This post is in violation of game rule 1.1:

1. You may not quote information (either real or fabricated) from any game-related source other than the thread you are posting in. This means no quotes from PMs and no quotes from QTs in the main thread or in another QT. Paraphrasing is acceptable. If you are unsure whether a post is legal, please ask the moderator before posting.

As a result, jotheonah takes 1 vote less to lynch for today only.

[Glooble]

Guys, I was just pointing out that normally, in a flavored game, scum is flavored as the villains of the source material and town is flavored as the heroes. As Breq is the protagonist of the books, obviously Faust flipped that. How does pointing that out make me scummy?

Also what motivation would I, as scum, have had to start the wagon on my own partner then push it for the entire day (save one brief moment when I thought it was losing traction and switched to my next biggest scumread?)

Who, by the way, is now my biggest scumread.

vote: Awaclus

[Awaclus]

Guys, I was just pointing out that normally, in a flavored game, scum is flavored as the villains of the source material and town is flavored as the heroes. As Breq is the protagonist of the books, obviously Faust flipped that. How does pointing that out make me scummy?

If you were town, you would have noticed what your own alignment is at the start of the game, not at the start of D3. Obviously being aligned with LL would give you the same information so you probably aren't that either.

Also what motivation would I, as scum, have had to start the wagon on my own partner then push it for the entire day (save one brief moment when I thought it was losing traction and switched to my next biggest scumread?)

I didn't say you were LL's partner.

[Glooble]

My character is extremely neutral in the flavor of the books. Also, your argument would also apply if I was scum and saw I was a good guy.

[Glooble]

faust, I fail to see how joth’s Post violates that rule.

[jotheonah]

Here's the thing I wrote right after the lynch:

This post is in violation of game rule 1.1:

1. You may not quote information (either real or fabricated) from any game-related source other than the thread you are posting in. This means no quotes from PMs and no quotes from QTs in the main thread or in another QT. Paraphrasing is acceptable. If you are unsure whether a post is legal, please ask the moderator before posting.

As a result, jotheonah takes 1 vote less to lynch for today only.

Wait what? I’m not allowed to quote a notes doc on my own computer I wrote two days ago so I wouldn’t forget my thoughts??? Appeal!

[faust]

faust, I fail to see how joth’s Post violates that rule.

It quotes from a game-related source.

[Glooble]

That’s ridiculous. I’m going to take this to pm so I don’t clog the thread or get uncivil, and I suggest anyone else who disagrees with this action do the same.

[Glooble]

If you were town, you would have noticed what your own alignment is at the start of the game, not at the start of D3. Obviously being aligned with LL would give you the same information so you probably aren't that either.

I just want to clarify because I think I was a little angry and also trying to type on a phone in 2 degree weather. This logic is crap. If I was scum, I also would have known my flavor on day one, and if it was a character aligned with Breq in the books, I would have known scum was Breq-aligned. So my just now figuring this out doesn't mean anything about my alignment.


I can flavor-claim if people want me to, but suffice it to say my character in the books is one who does not explicitly help either side of the conflict, therefor I had no way of knowing, from my own alignment, that anything was off.

[Glooble]

Also Glooble STARTED the LaLight wagon, she’s super-towny right now.

How do you explain the post I was quoting if Glooble is town?

I'm guessing he explains it by the fact the she noticed exactly the same thing at exactly the same time because there's nothing whatsoever scummy about that realization.

We should lynch Awaclus today. She' pretty clearly trying to start this wagon on me because she went hard to defend her scum partner yesterday and now doesn't have a way to weasel out of it.

[jotheonah]

You know, I was already hated. I can be double hated. It’s NBD since I’m not today’s lynch anyway. I guess I’ll know for next time to just copy and paste without saying anything.

Let’s talk about how crazy scummy mail-mi’s cop claim was.

If mail-mi is town, that claim makes no sense. He’s basically saying “kill me, scum, you have plenty of time because it takes forever for me to get results”. A real cop would have kept it to himself, especially because he wasn’t even under much pressure and had no useful results to give us.

If mail-mi is scum, then the claim is great. All the “better not lynch me” of a cop with none of the “I have to actually give a result”. The only thing wrong with it is it’s too obvious. But one thing I learned from the last game is that sometimes, scum just screws up.

[Glooble]

Yeah at this point I'm like 75% sure its Awaclus and mail-mi but I'm like 95% sure its Awaclus and someone.

[mail-mi]

I have a whole thing I wrote yesterday but it’s on my computer and I’m on my phone. I’ll post it in a couple hours.

Anyway, vote: mail-mi

I'm going to be honest, it doesn't look very good for me. And yes the cop result is convenient but I'm not going to lie to the town. What can I do to help convince you that I am town so that we don't throw this game away?

[mail-mi]

You know, I was already hated. I can be double hated. It’s NBD since I’m not today’s lynch anyway. I guess I’ll know for next time to just copy and paste without saying anything.

Let’s talk about how crazy scummy mail-mi’s cop claim was.

If mail-mi is town, that claim makes no sense. He’s basically saying “kill me, scum, you have plenty of time because it takes forever for me to get results”. A real cop would have kept it to himself, especially because he wasn’t even under much pressure and had no useful results to give us.

If mail-mi is scum, then the claim is great. All the “better not lynch me” of a cop with none of the “I have to actually give a result”. The only thing wrong with it is it’s too obvious. But one thing I learned from the last game is that sometimes, scum just screws up.

There is more to my role and that is all I will say about this right now.

[Awaclus]

I just want to clarify because I think I was a little angry and also trying to type on a phone in 2 degree weather. This logic is crap. If I was scum, I also would have known my flavor on day one, and if it was a character aligned with Breq in the books, I would have known scum was Breq-aligned. So my just now figuring this out doesn't mean anything about my alignment.

I have acknowledged that from the beginning. I'm not accusing you of being Breq-aligned, I'm accusing you of being non-town, non-Breq aligned and everything you have said in your defense has only been more evidence for that as far as I can tell.