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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D1)
« Reply #125 on: September 12, 2018, 10:40:36 am »

Ok I think we can safely conclude that the scumteam is e / EFHW / ashersky.

dayvig: EFHW

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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D1)
« Reply #126 on: September 12, 2018, 10:41:01 am »

Actually scratch that I want to hear Ash's thing first.

*puts on lurker hat*
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D1)
« Reply #127 on: September 12, 2018, 10:48:40 am »

Ok I think we can safely conclude that the scumteam is e / EFHW / ashersky.

dayvig: EFHW

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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D1)
« Reply #128 on: September 12, 2018, 10:51:30 am »

Actually scratch that I want to hear Ash's thing first.

*puts on lurker hat*

Be confident in your plan. Let's hear it. Your hesitation seems scummy to me
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D1)
« Reply #129 on: September 12, 2018, 10:53:02 am »

EFHW and chairs get it

I'm afraid not. If they got it, they would say something like "If I was bart the SK, you would have to do X".

Why should they do that?
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D1)
« Reply #130 on: September 12, 2018, 10:54:38 am »

Actually scratch that I want to hear Ash's thing first.

*puts on lurker hat*

Be confident in your plan. Let's hear it. Your hesitation seems scummy to me

Wut wut? I don't have an ounce of hesitation in my soul!! Where are you getting that idea?
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D1)
« Reply #131 on: September 12, 2018, 10:57:52 am »

Actually scratch that I want to hear Ash's thing first.

*puts on lurker hat*

Be confident in your plan. Let's hear it. Your hesitation seems scummy to me

Wut wut? I don't have an ounce of hesitation in my soul!! Where are you getting that idea?

*puts on lurker hat*
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D1)
« Reply #132 on: September 12, 2018, 11:16:15 am »

In the show, Bart is a loose cannon so not aligned with anyone. She is definitely bulletproof until the moment when she tries to kill Dirk and then she can be hurt and joins the cause.

So, maybe she has to target Dirk before she becomes a Good Guy.
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D1)
« Reply #133 on: September 12, 2018, 11:38:00 am »

Ok I think we can safely conclude that the scumteam is e / EFHW / ashersky.

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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D1)
« Reply #134 on: September 12, 2018, 11:51:31 am »

Ok I think we can safely conclude that the scumteam is e / EFHW / ashersky.

dayvig: EFHW

I want this to be real

Are you scum reading EFHW?
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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D1)
« Reply #135 on: September 12, 2018, 12:00:35 pm »

Ok I think we can safely conclude that the scumteam is e / EFHW / ashersky.

dayvig: EFHW

I want this to be real

I do, too.

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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D1)
« Reply #136 on: September 12, 2018, 12:13:12 pm »

Ok I think we can safely conclude that the scumteam is e / EFHW / ashersky.

dayvig: EFHW

I want this to be real
I thought we agreed?

Anyway, I'm truly mystified by silver's reaction.
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D1)
« Reply #137 on: September 12, 2018, 12:25:42 pm »

Alignment changing is usually bastard. Lately we've played with it with warnings ahead of time. But there are no warnings of that sort in the OP. When I was a seriously nerfed serial killer in Modern Community, I pretended to be a psychiatrist hoping someone would counterclaim me and make me town. Found out later my claim should have been obviously false because changing alignment would be bastard. So my desperate hope for sanity was not to be.

I don't think alignment changing is bastard if you're the only person in your alignment and you're the one actively choosing to change your alignment.

Awaclus is correct. Everyone who tries to shoot down the plan is wrong.
Why do you like the plan so much? And why aren't people allowed to disagree with you?
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D1)
« Reply #138 on: September 12, 2018, 01:36:36 pm »

Alignment changing is usually bastard. Lately we've played with it with warnings ahead of time. But there are no warnings of that sort in the OP. When I was a seriously nerfed serial killer in Modern Community, I pretended to be a psychiatrist hoping someone would counterclaim me and make me town. Found out later my claim should have been obviously false because changing alignment would be bastard. So my desperate hope for sanity was not to be.

I don't think alignment changing is bastard if you're the only person in your alignment and you're the one actively choosing to change your alignment.

Awaclus is correct. Everyone who tries to shoot down the plan is wrong.
Why do you like the plan so much? And why aren't people allowed to disagree with you?

This is a good question!
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D1)
« Reply #139 on: September 12, 2018, 01:43:31 pm »

Actually scratch that I want to hear Ash's thing first.

*puts on lurker hat*

Be confident in your plan. Let's hear it. Your hesitation seems scummy to me

Wut wut? I don't have an ounce of hesitation in my soul!! Where are you getting that idea?

*puts on lurker hat*

I dunno e, I feel like you put me in your scumbucket already so it doesn't matter what I tell you, but FWIW I am, without hesitation, pursuing my current 'plan' of waiting to see what Ash has got to say before I share my opinions on people's reactions to what I've said.
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D1)
« Reply #140 on: September 12, 2018, 03:10:22 pm »

Actually scratch that I want to hear Ash's thing first.

*puts on lurker hat*

Be confident in your plan. Let's hear it. Your hesitation seems scummy to me

Wut wut? I don't have an ounce of hesitation in my soul!! Where are you getting that idea?

*puts on lurker hat*

I dunno e, I feel like you put me in your scumbucket already so it doesn't matter what I tell you, but FWIW I am, without hesitation, pursuing my current 'plan' of waiting to see what Ash has got to say before I share my opinions on people's reactions to what I've said.

vote: iguana
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D1)
« Reply #141 on: September 12, 2018, 03:17:37 pm »

Alignment changing is usually bastard. Lately we've played with it with warnings ahead of time. But there are no warnings of that sort in the OP. When I was a seriously nerfed serial killer in Modern Community, I pretended to be a psychiatrist hoping someone would counterclaim me and make me town. Found out later my claim should have been obviously false because changing alignment would be bastard. So my desperate hope for sanity was not to be.

I don't think alignment changing is bastard if you're the only person in your alignment and you're the one actively choosing to change your alignment.

Awaclus is correct. Everyone who tries to shoot down the plan is wrong.
Why do you like the plan so much? And why aren't people allowed to disagree with you?
You are alloed! And I'm allowed to dayvig you :-)

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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D1)
« Reply #142 on: September 12, 2018, 03:28:30 pm »

Alignment changing is usually bastard. Lately we've played with it with warnings ahead of time. But there are no warnings of that sort in the OP. When I was a seriously nerfed serial killer in Modern Community, I pretended to be a psychiatrist hoping someone would counterclaim me and make me town. Found out later my claim should have been obviously false because changing alignment would be bastard. So my desperate hope for sanity was not to be.

I don't think alignment changing is bastard if you're the only person in your alignment and you're the one actively choosing to change your alignment.

Awaclus is correct. Everyone who tries to shoot down the plan is wrong.
Why do you like the plan so much? And why aren't people allowed to disagree with you?
You are alloed! And I'm allowed to dayvig you :-)

I really need more games with dayvigs.

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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D1)
« Reply #143 on: September 12, 2018, 03:32:50 pm »

So much is being off flavor and i havenít seen this show.
I wanna hear ashes thing.
I assume Igu is extremely related to the SK somehow (or is the SK)
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D1)
« Reply #144 on: September 12, 2018, 06:01:38 pm »

I'm glad I watched the show between signing up and the game starting!

I agree with Awaclus/silver that alignment changes probably aren't explicitly impossible just because we're in an RMM setup rather than a bastard setup.

I agree with EFHW that silver's response is somewhat mystifying. I think we just don't know enough to be sure the plan is a good idea. There's a chain of assumptions about Bart being in the game, about her being an SK rather than "universe-aligned", and about her being able to change to a townie. I mean, she's pretty much an agent of the universe anyway, so why isn't it equally possible that she's just a townie character like a vig or something? Whether vig or SK or something else, I think it's clear that scum has more reason to fear her than town, so I think it's reasonable to question Iguana's motives in presenting the plan. Thus I think it's odd that silver is so much on the side of adopting the chain of assumptions and scumreading those questioning Iguana's alignment.
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D1)
« Reply #145 on: September 12, 2018, 06:10:24 pm »

In other news, scumpoints for those who've decided not to bother contributing to D1 until Ash has come back in with his grand plan. There's no way his idea can be worth stalling the game over. This is D1 in an RMM: he's not going to solve the setup.

What's the benefit of him posting an intent to post a plan, anyway? At best, it meets a busy person's their daily posting quota without actually resorting to fluff. In reality, it's encouraging the game to stall or to discuss Ash the player, rather than anything relevant to the current game.

Please resume normal D1 accusations, buddying, bussing, and the posting of theories of questionable worth now :-)
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D1)
« Reply #146 on: September 12, 2018, 06:10:59 pm »

Okay, PSA.  My availability is generally limited to my commute, and on my phone.  So you should see spurts of activity.  Iíll do my best to respond/react to stuff that happened while I was not actively reading.

As for the long time, no sees ó glad to see people active again!

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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D1)
« Reply #147 on: September 12, 2018, 06:12:24 pm »

Classic SA!  Why we are never on the same page I may never understand.

(Aside: they are right about stalling being unnecessary; wrong about it being scummy.)
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D1)
« Reply #148 on: September 12, 2018, 06:18:38 pm »

As for plans...

I will present two.  Pick one, or both, or none.

1) Mass flavorclaim.  Because of course.  But really, because flavor is clearly very important and it either super helps a lot of players at night or doesnít.  And if it does, I posit it helps more town players than scum players so reward is greater than risk.

2) Everyone who knows the flavor posts a list of the major possible characters and likely alignments based on their knowledge of LL.  Bonus points: guess possible mafia roles.  This gives us fodder to discuss and opportunities for players to be scummy.

These arenít plans to solve the game; these are to kickstart it and provide scumhunting clues.
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Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D1)
« Reply #149 on: September 12, 2018, 06:19:51 pm »

(Aside: they are right about stalling being unnecessary; wrong about it being scummy.)

But how to you know that nobody who posted intent to wait for your plan wasn't scum taking advantage of the excuse to stall? I think most people would be marginally more likely to want to slow things down here as scum than as town. Yes, it's very marginal, but that's where the concept of scumpoints and townpoints comes in useful, even if you don't want to have to be a good Bayesian about these things.
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