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[SpaceAnemone]

vote: Space for betraying me in M110.

M110 feels like ages ago. I don't even remember what happened without my game notes, and I'm traveling sans laptop till tomorrow night. Sorry if I did a bad thing! :-P

[IDontPlayThisGame]

Can't really say I'm a fan of silverspawn's claim.

I don't like Joseph's either. I don't see how they help.

Yeah, but the difference between them is that I'd put a much higher prior on town!silver playing in a pro-town manner than town!Joseph. It might just be pro-town for silver to wifom us and draw suspicion, but I feel like Joseph's meta is just to mess about regardless.

Well, I agree about Joseph. As for silverspawn, I'm going to think about it a bit more.

[Robz888]

Joseph claimed SK last game, was unhelpful, got lynched Day 1, it was bad for town.

[Awaclus]

Joseph claimed SK last game, was unhelpful, got lynched Day 1, it was bad for town.

He has claimed SK in all the recent games I can remember.

[SpaceAnemone]

Joseph claimed SK last game, was unhelpful, got lynched Day 1, it was bad for town.

Not just last game.. it's pretty much how he goes most  games, isn't it?

Mimes must be feeling pretty lucky if he's drawn mime here, because he's an easy person to want to lynch quite often. I guess we can't just have default low-town-utility lynches here.

PPE at least 1. Yeah, it's his "thing".

[Joseph2302]

Hi everyone, I'm a mime. I'm telling you so you'll lynch me out of WIFOM.

This is true. I know because I'm the other mime

Then why aren't you voting for silverspawn?

Or I could self-vote.
But Vote: ss it is then

[Joseph2302]

Can't really say I'm a fan of silverspawn's claim.

I don't like Joseph's either. I don't see how they help.

Yeah, but the difference between them is that I'd put a much higher prior on town!silver playing in a pro-town manner than town!Joseph. It might just be pro-town for silver to wifom us and draw suspicion, but I feel like Joseph's meta is just to mess about regardless.

Actually that's usually my town meta.
As scum I usually try and hide in the background more

[Joseph2302]

Joseph claimed SK last game, was unhelpful, got lynched Day 1, it was bad for town.

Not just last game.. it's pretty much how he goes most  games, isn't it?

Yh I started this a while back

[Joseph2302]

Post count so far:

Everyone - not many
Me - enough to be towny

[theorel]

Weekend incoming, activity will probably plummet.
I think IDPTG is clearly town, so I'm going to join him in voting for SpaceAnemone.  His argument is very convincing, people should definitely read it (although I'm not going to link it, because it would require too much effort to lookup) vote: Space

[silverspawn]

Can't really say I'm a fan of silverspawn's claim.

I don't like Joseph's either. I don't see how they help.

Yeah, but the difference between them is that I'd put a much higher prior on town!silver playing in a pro-town manner than town!Joseph. It might just be pro-town for silver to wifom us and draw suspicion, but I feel like Joseph's meta is just to mess about regardless.

I like your post because it included the term 'prior'.

[The_Wine_Merchant]

Well. Two days in and I am already behind. All the sorriez. I'll catch up over the weekend.

[Joseph2302]

Well. Two days in and I am already behind. All the sorriez. I'll catch up over the weekend.

Obv!scum post here

[schadd]

vote: lekkit

[Swowl]

Sorry all i did not realize this had started.

Clarification question as i read through - BOTH mimes need to be lynched to acquire their win con right?

[silverspawn]

Sorry all i did not realize this had started.

Clarification question as i read through - BOTH mimes need to be lynched to acquire their win con right?

Yes. Lynching one is harmless. It also helps to remove anti-town votes.

[Roadrunner7671]

Sorry all i did not realize this had started.

Clarification question as i read through - BOTH mimes need to be lynched to acquire their win con right?

Yes. Lynching one is harmless. It also helps to remove anti-town votes.

I'm not sure I agree. I think it might be better if we don't lynch any, because if we lynch one then we really have to worry about the second.

[Swowl]

So if we lynch them both then they win on that. However, if we lynch one and the other dies to an NK they do not win (I think that is correct).

Thing is, if you are a Mime... why would you claim mime? If you want to get lynched an not NKed... just doesn't really make any sense. I mean even if you draw the attention during the day to yourself, then there is the whole night meta.. if you get killed then your team loses on the spot. You will be targeted by Mafia most likely and it will put a weird spin on Town where we have to decide what to do. I feel as if the much better strategy would of been to act as "Mafia-y" as possible if the goal was to be lynched.

If you are Town... why would you claim mime? I can only assume if you are VT then to proc PRs and help to gain information down the road. I suppose it puts mimes in a spot where they cannot really claim, however why would you want to.

If you are Mafia... why would you claim mime? Well, it makes it unlikely that you will be lynched. It also means that the Mimes will know you are lying obv, but since your team would control the NK you don't have to worry about being shot at night.


Further fun note: Considering that the mimes can only protect one of themselves at night, we can absolutely assume that one of the mime claims is a lie (since they cannot target themselves). So if one of them claimed, the other one could just proc them each night or hope they get get lynched I guess. But if both claim then how do they determine who skum would aim at at night? Just from a rational point, all likelihood aside, I just don't see how both mimes could possibly claim and find an upside in it.

I will finish reading tonight and get more to this later.

[silverspawn]

So if we lynch them both then they win on that. However, if we lynch one and the other dies to an NK they do not win (I think that is correct).

Thing is, if you are a Mime... why would you claim mime? If you want to get lynched an not NKed... just doesn't really make any sense. I mean even if you draw the attention during the day to yourself, then there is the whole night meta.. if you get killed then your team loses on the spot. You will be targeted by Mafia most likely and it will put a weird spin on Town where we have to decide what to do. I feel as if the much better strategy would of been to act as "Mafia-y" as possible if the goal was to be lynched.

If you are Town... why would you claim mime? I can only assume if you are VT then to proc PRs and help to gain information down the road. I suppose it puts mimes in a spot where they cannot really claim, however why would you want to.

If you are Mafia... why would you claim mime? Well, it makes it unlikely that you will be lynched. It also means that the Mimes will know you are lying obv, but since your team would control the NK you don't have to worry about being shot at night.


Further fun note: Considering that the mimes can only protect one of themselves at night, we can absolutely assume that one of the mime claims is a lie (since they cannot target themselves). So if one of them claimed, the other one could just proc them each night or hope they get get lynched I guess. But if both claim then how do they determine who skum would aim at at night? Just from a rational point, all likelihood aside, I just don't see how both mimes could possibly claim and find an upside in it.

I will finish reading tonight and get more to this later.

Can't argue with that.

[Joseph2302]

Sorry all i did not realize this had started.

Clarification question as i read through - BOTH mimes need to be lynched to acquire their win con right?

Yes. Lynching one is harmless. It also helps to remove anti-town votes.

I'm not sure I agree. I think it might be better if we don't lynch any, because if we lynch one then we really have to worry about the second.

I agree. If mimes can almost win, then it'll make us cautious about lynching. Think RR is towny for pointing this out

[faust]

Vote Count 1.1

silverspawn (3): Awaclus, silverspawn, Joseph2302
theorel (1): Roadrunner7671
SpaceAnemone (2): IDontPlayThisGame, theorel
Joseph2302 (1): SpaceAnemone
Lekkit (1): schadd

Not Voting (4): Robz888, The_Wine_Merchant, DatSwan, Lekkit

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day 1 ends Jan 25 at 4 am forum time.

[Joseph2302]

Vote: Space
Wagons.
Also, L-4

[SpaceAnemone]

This didn't go very far while I was away. I'm back now :-)

Joseph sounds a bit too pleased with himself to be scum.

@schadd, why so quiet? I thought D1 was your favourite bit.

Robz isn't very engaged either, but at least he's posting. I think I like theorel. We've not played together before, have we?

[Awaclus]

We should establish whether scum = non-town or scum = mafia.

[Roadrunner7671]

We should establish whether scum = non-town or scum = mafia.

I'd say scum=non town, since mimes will try to act scummy in an effort to get lynched.