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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #525 on: January 05, 2017, 07:54:41 am »

Not a lot of people stand out in this game, so let's just say Robz, gkrieg and Jake.
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #526 on: January 05, 2017, 08:18:57 am »

I think my three would be:

EFHW, calamitas and probably mcmc

I would put robz into that mix as I still think he is potentially mafia, but concede he is unlikely to be lynched at this juncture.
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #527 on: January 05, 2017, 09:49:33 am »

Caught up and vote: jake I think robz made a good point that he pretty much only finds people scummy after other people find them scummy. Jake also pushed the robz wagon after it was explained that robz thought Awc was soft claiming.* Laslty while I agree that getting us to narrow the lynch pool as we approach deadline is a good thing I actually think the whole "let's post our 3 would lynch candidates" is really scummy. Think about it scum wants desperately to find out all the options town is willing to lynch and doesn't really care what the case is on those people. The best way to find that out is getting everyone's short list.


*about the robz wagon, I had the benefit of having seen the more recent pages and therefor robz explaination before going back and reading how it actually happened so my view is obviously tainted but I would have 100% been pushing to lynch Joseph after seeing awcs post, and I completely believe that is what robz thought. The fact that he believed the claim instantly then flipped right after awcs post seems pretty obvious to me.
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #528 on: January 05, 2017, 09:49:54 am »

Awaclus, IDP for lurking, and I guess gkrieg, mostly because I'm getting townie vibes from faust
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #529 on: January 05, 2017, 09:50:32 am »

Caught up and vote: jake I think robz made a good point that he pretty much only finds people scummy after other people find them scummy. Jake also pushed the robz wagon after it was explained that robz thought Awc was soft claiming.* Laslty while I agree that getting us to narrow the lynch pool as we approach deadline is a good thing I actually think the whole "let's post our 3 would lynch candidates" is really scummy. Think about it scum wants desperately to find out all the options town is willing to lynch and doesn't really care what the case is on those people. The best way to find that out is getting everyone's short list.


*about the robz wagon, I had the benefit of having seen the more recent pages and therefor robz explaination before going back and reading how it actually happened so my view is obviously tainted but I would have 100% been pushing to lynch Joseph after seeing awcs post, and I completely believe that is what robz thought. The fact that he believed the claim instantly then flipped right after awcs post seems pretty obvious to me.

Mcmc, the problem is--and you know I almost never say this and kind of hate this argument--jake absolutely does this stuff as town or scum.
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #530 on: January 05, 2017, 09:53:45 am »

How about this. We don't lynch Joseph today but if he's still alive tomorrow we lynch him. If he dies during the night the n we know he was being truthful. Does that satisfy everyone? If so who are possible D-1 lynchs for us. I say one of the lurkers like Mcmc or Awa

Also this is bad bad bad, I guess not really alignment indicative but a super silly thought process which I often atribute to scum forcing themselves to comment on things.
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #531 on: January 05, 2017, 09:58:52 am »

Vote: Robz Bye Robz. You are now seeming more and more scummy.

Btw, this is the vote for robz which comes after it was cleared up what went down.

Also Town read on EFHW whose posts I think have all been very pro town and around the same time as jake was pushing robz up until the explaination and then unvoted and confirmed that yes robz was pushing Joseph because it looked like awc soft-claimed.
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #532 on: January 05, 2017, 10:01:41 am »

Trying to get my head round the last couple of days:

So after I claimed UB, the next wagon was Robz. He got to L-1.
Robz believed that Awaclus was softclaiming UB (#452), and claimed VT (#455).

Jake didn't like that Robz was voting for a claimed PR (#465).
faust was first to unvote (#473) - small town points for that. Robz was still at L-1, despite people not being sure that he was scum.
faust then says gkrieg/Awaclus might be scum (#474) - dunno why these 2
EFHW then votes Gkrieg, and Wine votes for EFHW

Jake's scum reads are McEFHW, gkrieg, mcmc, TWM and robz (#496), which he then narrows to Robz, gkrieg and McEFHW (#520)
Wine still think Robz might be mafia (#502)
Robz maybe wants to lynch Awaclus (#508), because of the UB softclaim. His lynch pool is
faust's lynch pool is gkrieg, Awaclus and RR (#523)
Mcmc voted Jake (#527)

So at the end of all that, it seems like everyone so far has gkrieg in their lynchpool. What exactly has he done this game to get like this? Other than being just active enough to not look really lurky?

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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #533 on: January 05, 2017, 10:02:05 am »

So, my thoughts:

1. The_Wine_Merchant - still seems towny
2. IDontPlayThisGame - not been around much, null
3. Robz888 - I really don't know about the Robz wagon, it seemed to gain momentum too quickly. Which makes him more likely to be good I guess?
4. Jakethebaseballgod22 - can never tell with him. But seems daft to lynch him D1 as this is the same confusing town!Jake as in NM9
5. Calamitas - null
6. Awaclus - did he actually softclaim UB? If he did, that's scummy.
7. McEFHW - slightly town I think
8. Joseph2302 - UB / IC
9. mcmcsalot - null
10. faust - leaning towards town
11. Roadrunner7671 - hasn't done anything scummy this game
12. gkrieg13 - lots of people think he's scummy
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #534 on: January 05, 2017, 10:02:54 am »

I guess then my 3 would be gkrieg, Awaclus and IDPTG
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #535 on: January 05, 2017, 10:04:14 am »

I mostly believe Robz and Awaclus. Don't want to unvote at this point, tho.

...oh nevermind, this is after. Why again hadn't you unvoted EFHW?

I'll go with vote:gkrieg. His "I'm not paying attention" thing is starting to feel like an act.

This is what you do next soo care to clarify your thoughts on robz...
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #536 on: January 05, 2017, 10:06:56 am »


So at the end of all that, it seems like everyone so far has gkrieg in their lynchpool. What exactly has he done this game to get like this? Other than being just active enough to not look really lurky?

Yea this is the type of danger I think the whole just post your would lynch thing gets us into.
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #537 on: January 05, 2017, 10:09:14 am »

I feel like if robz was town he would be looking for scum not targeting one person who is a claimed Pr. Because of robz's reactions I now believe Joseph's claim.

But robz believed Joseph was lying scum. And how would his reaction make Joseph's claim more or less believable?
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #538 on: January 05, 2017, 10:23:28 am »

McMc and RR who are your 3?
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #539 on: January 05, 2017, 10:24:45 am »

McMc and RR who are your 3?
Mcmcsalot brought up the point that scum would want to know exactly the information you're trying to provide. I'm not saying you're scum, but I do think scum would benefit more than town from this information.
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #540 on: January 05, 2017, 10:28:37 am »

McMc and RR who are your 3?
Mcmcsalot brought up the point that scum would want to know exactly the information you're trying to provide. I'm not saying you're scum, but I do think scum would benefit more than town from this information.

Yes, it's way worse to just get my three. I can see you wanting like a full reads list from me as I haven't been around but just wanting my three is so "let me know what people I'm not going to get flak for pushing"
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #541 on: January 05, 2017, 10:29:39 am »

McMc and RR who are your 3?
Mcmcsalot brought up the point that scum would want to know exactly the information you're trying to provide. I'm not saying you're scum, but I do think scum would benefit more than town from this information.
I get that but unless we narrow the lynch pool our lynch will be forced at the last moment and not thought through because we couldn't come to a decision there fore if we narrow the lynch pool we will have a more consensus and non forced lynch so please whats your top 3?
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #542 on: January 05, 2017, 10:33:00 am »

McMc and RR who are your 3?
Mcmcsalot brought up the point that scum would want to know exactly the information you're trying to provide. I'm not saying you're scum, but I do think scum would benefit more than town from this information.
I get that but unless we narrow the lynch pool our lynch will be forced at the last moment and not thought through because we couldn't come to a decision there fore if we narrow the lynch pool we will have a more consensus and non forced lynch so please whats your top 3?
I have posted a lynch pool in the past. I could throw together a reads list. But, especially after most people have already said their three, I see little reason for me to give mine.
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #543 on: January 05, 2017, 10:36:12 am »

McMc and RR who are your 3?
Mcmcsalot brought up the point that scum would want to know exactly the information you're trying to provide. I'm not saying you're scum, but I do think scum would benefit more than town from this information.
I get that but unless we narrow the lynch pool our lynch will be forced at the last moment and not thought through because we couldn't come to a decision there fore if we narrow the lynch pool we will have a more consensus and non forced lynch so please whats your top 3?
I have posted a lynch pool in the past. I could throw together a reads list. But, especially after most people have already said their three, I see little reason for me to give mine.
Just do a top 3 list. Voting End's at 9 pm forum time on January 5th. If people want a longer deadline just ask and I will extend it.
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #544 on: January 05, 2017, 10:37:13 am »

If people want a longer deadline just ask and I will extend it.
Huh?
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #545 on: January 05, 2017, 10:37:48 am »

Ashersky replaced IDontPlayThisGame
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #546 on: January 05, 2017, 10:39:29 am »

Ashersky replaced IDontPlayThisGame
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #547 on: January 05, 2017, 10:40:12 am »

McMc and RR who are your 3?
Mcmcsalot brought up the point that scum would want to know exactly the information you're trying to provide. I'm not saying you're scum, but I do think scum would benefit more than town from this information.
I get that but unless we narrow the lynch pool our lynch will be forced at the last moment and not thought through because we couldn't come to a decision there fore if we narrow the lynch pool we will have a more consensus and non forced lynch so please whats your top 3?
I have posted a lynch pool in the past. I could throw together a reads list. But, especially after most people have already said their three, I see little reason for me to give mine.
Just do a top 3 list. Voting End's at 9 pm forum time on January 5th. If people want a longer deadline just ask and I will extend it.
Ok no deadline when 9 people have voted the lynch pool will be created with the top 3 vote getters.
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #548 on: January 05, 2017, 10:42:24 am »

First off, vote: Robz because I haven't been able to type that for like two years.

Also because the rule established in M10 still stands.

unvote

I have only skimmed along this game, have little to no recollection of anything exciting.  Any highlights for me?

I have not read my PM associated with this game, so I am playing blind, and plan to for D1.
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #549 on: January 05, 2017, 10:43:53 am »

Just checked out the setup post -- looks like quite possibly the greatest setup ever made.  That's just an unbiased outsider's opinion, though.

Also, wth is Jake talking about with regards to the deadline?
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