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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1425 on: January 06, 2017, 10:36:56 pm »

Wow, just saw the switch part and I'm mindblown. In case the switch does actually do that, we cannot no-lynch.
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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1426 on: January 06, 2017, 10:37:10 pm »

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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1427 on: January 06, 2017, 10:38:18 pm »

Yeah yeah, a likely story.
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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1428 on: January 06, 2017, 10:40:03 pm »

People claiming the switch is used up, or are overlooking its ability to destroy town at Calamitas' preferred MYLO: Space, Calamitas

People who are scum: Space, Calamitas (?)
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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1429 on: January 06, 2017, 10:40:15 pm »

Yeah yeah, a likely story.
Look at the beginning of the day and tell me that again, please.
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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1430 on: January 06, 2017, 10:40:36 pm »

Yeah yeah, a likely story.
Look at the beginning of the day and tell me that again, please.

Look where? I will look where I am told to look.
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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1431 on: January 06, 2017, 10:41:24 pm »

Any evidence you can present that you didn't just try to put us in an absolute loss scenario, would be very welcome.
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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1432 on: January 06, 2017, 10:43:06 pm »

Yeah yeah, a likely story.
Look at the beginning of the day and tell me that again, please.

Look where? I will look where I am told to look.
You proposing no-lynch prior to the claim. In case the switch works that way, we could have lost right then since we wouldn't be at MyLo but at LyLo. I think it is pretty obvious that nobody did think of that possibility, not even in the teamlyle discussion on D1 this has been brought up.
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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1433 on: January 06, 2017, 10:45:54 pm »

Yeah yeah, a likely story.
Look at the beginning of the day and tell me that again, please.

Look where? I will look where I am told to look.
You proposing no-lynch prior to the claim. In case the switch works that way, we could have lost right then since we wouldn't be at MyLo but at LyLo. I think it is pretty obvious that nobody did think of that possibility, not even in the teamlyle discussion on D1 this has been brought up.

When did I propose No lynch prior to the claim? I never proposed No Lynch.
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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1434 on: January 06, 2017, 10:46:39 pm »

I don't get why LaLight was killed.

Aren't we still at LyLo?

No. We're at MYLO, I think. If we mislynch, we lose.

If we don't lynch at all, we're still okay. And we should probably do that. For reasons.
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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1435 on: January 06, 2017, 10:47:22 pm »

Mcmc, your post was very redundant, which is good! It's basically the exact same thing I went through in my head.

I am really worried the No Lynch option could very much play into the hands of scum at worst, and at best puts the game in teamlyle's hands, which is bad for a number of reasons and maybe just like super duper bad if the switch works the way I think it does?

Can someone explain the switch to me...
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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1436 on: January 06, 2017, 10:47:37 pm »

Indeed, I should have IC status now. If I were scum, I would have just gone along with your plan. The best town result for your plan, the teamlyle ending, actually loses for town!
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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1437 on: January 06, 2017, 10:47:50 pm »

Indeed, I should have IC status now. If I were scum, I would have just gone along with your plan. The best town result for your plan, the teamlyle ending, actually loses for town!

Talking to Calamitas!
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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1438 on: January 06, 2017, 10:49:36 pm »

Mcmc, your post was very redundant, which is good! It's basically the exact same thing I went through in my head.

I am really worried the No Lynch option could very much play into the hands of scum at worst, and at best puts the game in teamlyle's hands, which is bad for a number of reasons and maybe just like super duper bad if the switch works the way I think it does?

Can someone explain the switch to me...
Switch turns off all powers of a certain type and it might be well possible that the spirit and his vote could be turned off as well.
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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1439 on: January 06, 2017, 10:49:45 pm »

I don't get why LaLight was killed.

Aren't we still at LyLo?

No. We're at MYLO, I think. If we mislynch, we lose.

If we don't lynch at all, we're still okay. And we should probably do that. For reasons.

I was thinking I get another night to shoot and hey maybe there's another PR, a tracker or something, wouldn't that be nice. Those were the admittedly poorly thought out "reasons."
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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1440 on: January 06, 2017, 10:51:34 pm »

But I take your point, Calamitas: they're are non-scum reasons for you to propose No Lynch. It's just scarier in your case since you are a setup master, to have missed that scum win the teamlyle scenario.

And again, the fact that I pointed it out should IC-ize me.
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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Open for signups)
« Reply #1441 on: January 06, 2017, 10:53:34 pm »

--The Mafia factional 1-night Switch vanillaises all roles in one of the above categories (I, B, P, K, V) that the mafia chooses in one night and the following day and twilight. Wildcard roles count as their respective category. This action cannot be blocked.
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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1442 on: January 06, 2017, 10:55:05 pm »

But I take your point, Calamitas: they're are non-scum reasons for you to propose No Lynch. It's just scarier in your case since you are a setup master, to have missed that scum win the teamlyle scenario.

And again, the fact that I pointed it out should IC-ize me.
It really shouldn't. If it would and you were scum, pointing it out would have been a significantly easier path to victory than trying to get the no-lynch through.
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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1443 on: January 06, 2017, 10:56:42 pm »

But I take your point, Calamitas: they're are non-scum reasons for you to propose No Lynch. It's just scarier in your case since you are a setup master, to have missed that scum win the teamlyle scenario.

And again, the fact that I pointed it out should IC-ize me.
It really shouldn't. If it would and you were scum, pointing it out would have been a significantly easier path to victory than trying to get the no-lynch through.

OMG it ICes me so completely. You are scum. If I hadn't pointed it out, we would do your thing and scum would win.
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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1444 on: January 06, 2017, 10:59:21 pm »

But I take your point, Calamitas: they're are non-scum reasons for you to propose No Lynch. It's just scarier in your case since you are a setup master, to have missed that scum win the teamlyle scenario.

And again, the fact that I pointed it out should IC-ize me.
It really shouldn't. If it would and you were scum, pointing it out would have been a significantly easier path to victory than trying to get the no-lynch through.

OMG it ICes me so completely. You are scum. If I hadn't pointed it out, we would do your thing and scum would win.
But if you are ICized by it, than pointing it out is the best and smoothest way for scum!robz to win.
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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1445 on: January 06, 2017, 11:00:06 pm »

But I take your point, Calamitas: they're are non-scum reasons for you to propose No Lynch. It's just scarier in your case since you are a setup master, to have missed that scum win the teamlyle scenario.

And again, the fact that I pointed it out should IC-ize me.
It really shouldn't. If it would and you were scum, pointing it out would have been a significantly easier path to victory than trying to get the no-lynch through.

OMG it ICes me so completely. You are scum. If I hadn't pointed it out, we would do your thing and scum would win.
But if you are ICized by it, than pointing it out is the best and smoothest way for scum!robz to win.

No it's not. NOT pointing it out is the smoothest way to win, because I win in the worst-case (for scum) scenario of teamlyle deciding at MYLO.
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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1446 on: January 06, 2017, 11:00:38 pm »

Either way, really should get some sleep.
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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1447 on: January 06, 2017, 11:01:17 pm »

This is a clear scumtell, you're trying to keep my lynch open to save Space, even though it should make no sense anymore for me to be scum from your perspective. I just saved you from a blunder that would have town lose.
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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1448 on: January 06, 2017, 11:01:52 pm »

Either way, really should get some sleep.

Okay, that's true. Sleep on it and think, I'll do the same.
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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1449 on: January 06, 2017, 11:02:35 pm »

But I take your point, Calamitas: they're are non-scum reasons for you to propose No Lynch. It's just scarier in your case since you are a setup master, to have missed that scum win the teamlyle scenario.

And again, the fact that I pointed it out should IC-ize me.
It really shouldn't. If it would and you were scum, pointing it out would have been a significantly easier path to victory than trying to get the no-lynch through.

OMG it ICes me so completely. You are scum. If I hadn't pointed it out, we would do your thing and scum would win.
But if you are ICized by it, than pointing it out is the best and smoothest way for scum!robz to win.

No it's not. NOT pointing it out is the smoothest way to win, because I win in the worst-case (for scum) scenario of teamlyle deciding at MYLO.
Sure, if you get the no-lynch through it is all set and done. The question is whether we can be sure that scum!robz would try to get the no-lynch through instead of pointing it out. But yeah, let's continue this tomorrow.
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