Forgot to type my response to this post.
I have been trying to be more proactive, because people said that they didn't like that I was being mainly reactive. Trying to make cases and get people to go along with them. My reads haven't been good this game at all, but I'm trying to get it moving after a fairly stagnant D2.
Also for those who want to know what was in the QT, I said this-> "Who are you requesting?"
To which ADK said that he didn't want to tell me, because he thought it might benefit scum to know, although he wasn't sure exactly how.
I then said->"I'm pretty sure it can't benefit me at all. It just helps me to get a better read on you. It's interesting that you don't want to answer. I don't know exactly what that means either."
ADK thought it was a scumslip because I said that I'm pretty sure it can't benefit me at all, which I didn't really get as a scum slip. I was really just asking a question to someone I thought was townie and then he got all defensive about his choice, when I really didn't think that the claiming provides any information to scum. The only upside to knowing who someone else is going to request is that you can be sure of one of their scum reads.
I thought Awaclus was townie because he was sticking pretty close to his meta D1. Obviously I don't think that is the case now. And if your case on me is that I have reads that have changed, well that's just a crappy case.
I really remembered your post about claiming who we had requested as being you saying we should claim before the fact. I still think that isn't a horrible idea because it ensures that people can't lie about who they requested. I have no idea what the optimal play as scum would be in claiming and requesting. I mean obviously they don't want to end up as partners, but I don't think that it matters that much as long as they aren't made lovers.
My talk with ADK was fishing for info, but I really don't think that that info could be used by scum in such a way to be bold enough to ask him for it. I don't think the pros could outweigh the cons of him outing me that I asked. I was honestly just bored, so I thought I would ask him, and got a weird response out of it.
By the end of the day, I didn't want to lynch Joseph, and really just wanted to lynch RR or Seprix. I still think that lynching RR would be good, and I was obviously wrong on the Seprix lynch. What swayed me was everyone else's opinion on him and his day went from being on the townier side, to being on the scummier side.
Well, you're conceding a fair few points here, that's what I first noticed. E.g. "my talk with ADK was fishing", "I remembered your post differently." Not sure how I feel about that - it can be indicative of honesty, but I've seen scum defend themselves like so too. This is an aside, really.
You suggest you thought that people would request their top scumreads, right? Then why, precisely, did you ask for a before-the-fact request claim? It's, like, actively damaging to have such a claim if you think we'd otherwise request the scummiest people, since the lynch flip might change peoples' opinions. Not to mention that the scum would be interested in hearing everyone's top scumread right before night.
Re: Awaclus, my point there isn't that you might have just changed your mind (and I said as much), it's that your case was a simple one where you counted out his posts and said "look at how few posts he's talking about others!" But I don't think there wasn't much difference between how you summarized things in 1224 and what you said "seems townie" earlier. I see you presented some more detailed meta arguments in 1249, though. I'll be sure to read those and see what I think.
"Didn't want to lynch Joseph", ehh. As far as I can see, he pops up on your lists in the early and mid day, but not for any discernable reason other than the lovers-with-RR thing. AFAICT he disappears from your list when it's clear it is between RR and Seprix for the lynch and Joseph isn't on the table. Any other reason you didn't want to lynch Joseph by the end of yesterday?
?? yes I did.
I meant that you didn't post between his scumclaim and your "guess I was wrong" post. So, where were you wrong?
Gkrieg seems towny today.
Vote: Awaclus
He seems scummy too
Vote: Gkrieg
Huh?
If RR isn't happening, then the 2 lynches I'd like the most are Gkrieg and ss.
Don't feel like putting Gkrieg at L-1 right now though (as my vote would count).
So Vote: ss it is for now.
I could go for a Silver lynch too but I think Gkrieg is scummier. Also, you'd need both Awaclus and RR to vote Gkrieg to lynch him if you place a vote, so it's not really L-1.