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[iguanaiguana]

As for why I think Roadrunner is scum, see my previous re-read. I also got a chance to watch scum!runner in detail during scout mafia because I was co-modding, which gave me a lot of insight on how to read him and I do believe that his behavior here is similar to his behavior there. Again, the going-after-ADK-thing. Yes, that's still relevant here.

[iguanaiguana]

As for Haddock, yes the three comments on Chairs where he says "If he is town" do bring to mind this:



But sometimes careless town is careless town and not self-conscious scum and I'm really really willing to give him one day's worth of benefit of the doubt especially with how creepily eerily easy it's been to wagon him up the whole game. I think he's town. If I'm wrong, I'm sorry.

[2.71828.....]

Ok, back to

vote: gkrieg

WW has been skirting under the radar until about now, and I really like how he is coming out. Haddock is back to my #2 choice for now because of his recent posts again. I still am not a fan of the RR lynch. I don't like some of iguana's analysis on the gkrieg hammer, but he had read town to me mostly, will need to go back and look at him again

[Haddock]

Presumably "of"="on"

Yes, of = on.

The case on Gkrieg is and was that he scummily hammered Chairs when Roadrunner was about to be hammered without even asking. He even took advantage of the fact that ADK hadn't unvoted Chairs yet and used ADK's vote on Chairs to hammer Chairs when ADK was OBVIOUSLY about to unvote Chairs and vote Roadrunner.

Here's my thing. The only scum narrative for Gkrieg doing this is protecting a partner. If Roadrunner were town and Gkrieg scum, then why put your neck out on the line and hammer town just to protect another town, when the other town is clearly about to be killed and there's a good chance to mislynch the first town the next day anyway?

So either Roadrunner is scum, or both Roadrunner and Gkrieg are probably town. Therefore, it makes more sense to lynch Roadrunner than it does to lynch Gkrieg today, becuase he was the one who almost got hammered for scummy play and then didn't because Gkrieg appeared to have saved him.

This actually makes a lot of sense to me, at least at first glance.  I will think on it.

PPE. Is that L-1 on gkrieg?

[Haddock]

Is that L-1 on gkrieg?

I believe it is.

[iguanaiguana]

I see only you and e on him.

[iguanaiguana]

Short version of my argument.

If Gkrieg were scum, he wouldn't hammer Chairs if both Chairs and RR are town.
Therefore, if RR is town, Gkrieg should be town too.
However, if Gkrieg is town, that doesn't mean that Roadrunner isn't scum. He could still very well be scum with someone else.

That makes Roadrunner a better lynch than Gkrieg.

C'mon people!!!

[yuma]

Vote Count 2.4

RR: (2) Awaclus, iguana (L-2)
iguana: (1) RR
gkrieg: (2) Haddock, 2.7 (L-2)
WW: (1) gkrieg

Not Voting: (1) WW

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch. Day2 will last for 8 days

[gkrieg13]

I'll b back to this thread in a little bit.

Definitely don't lynch me. If it were between me and RR, I would obviously lynch him

[Roadrunner7671]

Stop. It.

Kill this reptile guy!

[Awaclus]

Stop. It.

Kill this reptile guy!

I didn't know you were a reptile guy.

[gkrieg13]

Presumably "of"="on"

Yes, of = on.

The case on Gkrieg is and was that he scummily hammered Chairs when Roadrunner was about to be hammered without even asking. He even took advantage of the fact that ADK hadn't unvoted Chairs yet and used ADK's vote on Chairs to hammer Chairs when ADK was OBVIOUSLY about to unvote Chairs and vote Roadrunner.



Here's my thing. The only scum narrative for Gkrieg doing this is protecting a partner. If Roadrunner were town and Gkrieg scum, then why put your neck out on the line and hammer town just to protect another town, when the other town is clearly about to be killed and there's a good chance to mislynch the first town the next day anyway?

So either Roadrunner is scum, or both Roadrunner and Gkrieg are probably town. Therefore, it makes more sense to lynch Roadrunner than it does to lynch Gkrieg today, becuase he was the one who almost got hammered for scummy play and then didn't because Gkrieg appeared to have saved him.

This logic is much better than the case on me.  RR has also stopped being helpful today.  I felt like he was easily townie yesterday, but today I am reading him scummier.

I didn't realize yesterday that ADK has posted intent to hammer chairs.  I honestly just read hp mafia and felt like chairs was acting similarly here.

I still feel like WW is scum more than I feel RR is scum though.

[Haddock]

Right now I could go for either gkrieg or RR, they both look pretty bad.
I am struggling to find a hole in the logic that scum!gkrieg's only good reason to hammer there was to protect scum!RR.  But there's WIFOM in that.  scum!gkrieg might have been counting on that exact argument, and be using it to incriminate RR.  I dunno.

I could potentially also go for WW, but there seems to be less interest there.  gkrieg wants to lynch him but that doesn't fill me with confidence.

[iguanaiguana]

Let's lynch Roadrunner, c'mon guys let's do this thing.

[Roadrunner7671]

Let's not.

Why are you tunneling me, anyway? Can you at least look at or consider other options?

[iguanaiguana]

I considered every option. I reread the entire game. I came to the conlcusion that you are the best lynch for today.

Who is scum does not change.

[Roadrunner7671]

I considered every option. I reread the entire game. I came to the conlcusion that you are the best lynch for today.

Who is scum does not change.

But tunneling me isn't pro town. A case has been made, I am an option. But there's another scum out there, why don't we talk about that?

[Haddock]

I considered every option. I reread the entire game. I came to the conlcusion that you are the best lynch for today.

Who is scum does not change.

But tunneling me isn't pro town. A case has been made, I am an option. But there's another scum out there, why don't we talk about that?

Back to vote: RR.  Enough of this nonsense.

L-1

[Roadrunner7671]

I considered every option. I reread the entire game. I came to the conlcusion that you are the best lynch for today.

Who is scum does not change.

But tunneling me isn't pro town. A case has been made, I am an option. But there's another scum out there, why don't we talk about that?

Back to vote: RR.  Enough of this nonsense.

L-1

I knew someone would say something about that. I said that because I was talking to Iguanaiguana. Somehow, I'm confirmed scum to him. But there's still another scum out there, if I am scum.

[Witherweaver]

Is RR the only one that wants to lynch Iguana?

[gkrieg13]

I considered every option. I reread the entire game. I came to the conlcusion that you are the best lynch for today.

Who is scum does not change.

But tunneling me isn't pro town. A case has been made, I am an option. But there's another scum out there, why don't we talk about that?

Back to vote: RR.  Enough of this nonsense.

L-1

I knew someone would say something about that. I said that because I was talking to Iguanaiguana. Somehow, I'm confirmed scum to him. But there's still another scum out there, if I am scum.

It will be much easier to find the other scum once one flips. I think I'm actually fine with this lynch today.

intent to hammer

[Roadrunner7671]

This is stupid.

Gg

[gkrieg13]

vote: RR

[yuma]

Final Day2 Vote Count

RR: (4) Awaclus, iguana, Haddock, gkrieg
iguana: (1) RR
gkrieg: (1) 2.7

Not Voting: (1) WW

With 7 alive it took 4 to lynch.

Roadrunner has been lynched. He was a Vanilla Townie.

Night2 begins now!

All players still alive must "check-in" via a PM to the mod before the end of night. Night2 will last at least 24 hours. If anyone wants it to last longer, include that preference in your "check-in."

Thread Locked!

[yuma]

Still waiting for a handful of check-ins.