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[J Reggie]

I'm not scum, but I think we can do better than an ii lynch. I agree with e on vote: Faust. Keep in mind if Faust flips scum, it certainly doesn't clear ss. He could be bussing or an SK.

[faust]

I strongly oppose lynching iguana. He's having fun, trying to game solve and not bothering to look towny.

It looks the other way around to me. How is iguana game solving?

Vote: Faust

Ironically, it was a mixture of Seprix and faust that convinced me. I think the way faust assessed silver seemed more like scum disappointed in not finding anything scummy as opposed to town genuinely trying to figure put the game. I suspect faust took advantage of my Seprix  tunnel yesterday to push off of Jan. While I did it as part of a longterm strategy, I doubt faust was even aware if that strategy or doing anything remotely similar.

Well, thanks for the condescension.

[faust]

You're wrong of course, which you would know if you bothered to read my posts.

[faust]

I'm not scum, but I think we can do better than an ii lynch. I agree with e on vote: Faust. Keep in mind if Faust flips scum, it certainly doesn't clear ss. He could be bussing or an SK.

Reasons? Do you need any reasons? Apparently not.

[J Reggie]

I'm not scum, but I think we can do better than an ii lynch. I agree with e on vote: Faust. Keep in mind if Faust flips scum, it certainly doesn't clear ss. He could be bussing or an SK.

Reasons? Do you need any reasons? Apparently not.

I think one of you and ss is scum, and ss seems townier than you.

[faust]

I'm not scum, but I think we can do better than an ii lynch. I agree with e on vote: Faust. Keep in mind if Faust flips scum, it certainly doesn't clear ss. He could be bussing or an SK.

Reasons? Do you need any reasons? Apparently not.

I think one of you and ss is scum, and ss seems townier than you.

But why do you think that?

[iguanaiguana]

I strongly oppose lynching iguana. He's having fun, trying to game solve and not bothering to look towny.

Vote: Faust

Ironically, it was a mixture of Seprix and faust that convinced me. I think the way faust assessed silver seemed more like scum disappointed in not finding anything scummy as opposed to town genuinely trying to figure put the game. I suspect faust took advantage of my Seprix  tunnel yesterday to push off of Jan. While I did it as part of a longterm strategy, I doubt faust was even aware if that strategy or doing anything remotely similar.

I'm also inclined to take Seprix as town today. I doubt scum would soft like that in his position. Silver's posts feel town in a way that they haven't in previous games of his. And Lyle's town pass has not and will not run out.

So, yeah, faust.

Vote: Faust

Wagons!

I also was thinking about which scum would be most likely to kill Roadrunner, and the answer comes up Faust to me. Faust has such a strong reputation of dieing N1 that it seems he would feel really inclined to shoot the player whose PR is known. Other players I think may have let Roadrunner lived and tried to shoot for a more valuable PR or an unknown.

I didn't explain that well. It's also not a huge thing but it was making me Faustlean before Fontisian added her bit and then that pushed me over the edge. 

[iguanaiguana]

silver is playing really solvy this game which reads town to me. In scum games, a lot of times he just doesn't try as hard.

[J Reggie]

I'm not scum, but I think we can do better than an ii lynch. I agree with e on vote: Faust. Keep in mind if Faust flips scum, it certainly doesn't clear ss. He could be bussing or an SK.

Reasons? Do you need any reasons? Apparently not.

I think one of you and ss is scum, and ss seems townier than you.

But why do you think that?

You are two long-time f.ds mafia players who have played so many games with each other, and the way you're interacting makes out seem like at least one of you it's scum. I like the case against you better.

[silverspawn]

Unofficial Vote Count:

Cron (1): Haddock
Haddock (2): Cron, Cellovix
faust (4): Seprix, fontisian, J Reggie, iguanaiguana
iguanaiguana (3): chairs, silverspawn, faust

Not Voting (1): teamlyle

[silverspawn]

Not sure to what extent I'm still in love with the faust wagon.

I am tempted to go to J Reggie instead. His "faust or I must be scum" thing is just too convenient. We lynch faust-- if he flips town, he can then go after me

faust's flip on me has a bit of a WIFOM component. He knows I partially suspected him because I thought that him pushing me is weird. So it has extra motivation which is why it'd look suspicions which is why it'd look good etc.

On the other hand there are still real arguments against him.

But the wagon does not look too amazing. Seprix is fine, but font, J Reggie, and iguana are all scummy.

how about vote: J Reggie?

I seriously needed 2+ years to realize you can use shortcuts to bold stuff in this forum. All the time I have lost 

[iguanaiguana]

I'm not scummy.

[gkrieg13]

Vote Count 2.2

Cron (1): Haddock
Haddock (2): Cron, Cellovix
J Reggie (1): silverspawn
faust (4): Seprix, fontisian, J Reggie, iguanaiguana
iguanaiguana (2): chairs, faust

Not Voting (1): teamlyle

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.  Day 2 ends Wednesday July 27, 9PM

[silverspawn]

never make judgements about whether you are or are not towny or scummy. being towny or scummy means being regarded as likely town or likely scum, you have no input on that. if anything you can say "I shouldn't be scummy"

[faust]

I'm not scum, but I think we can do better than an ii lynch. I agree with e on vote: Faust. Keep in mind if Faust flips scum, it certainly doesn't clear ss. He could be bussing or an SK.

Reasons? Do you need any reasons? Apparently not.

I think one of you and ss is scum, and ss seems townier than you.

But why do you think that?

You are two long-time f.ds mafia players who have played so many games with each other, and the way you're interacting makes out seem like at least one of you it's scum. I like the case against you better.

I looked hard trying to find an argument in this post, but I was not succesful. What is "the case against me", and what about it do you like?

[faust]

I'm not scummy.

Neither am I, and yet you're voting for me.

[J Reggie]

[Case against Faust]

Ss laid it out cleanly here. Faust's D1 is pretty scummy, with his position on Jan's wagon being bad.

[faust]

[Case against Faust]

Ss laid it out cleanly here. Faust's D1 is pretty scummy, with his position on Jan's wagon being bad.

I refuted all that already. Which part of my refute was not convincing to you?

[faust]

I also was thinking about which scum would be most likely to kill Roadrunner, and the answer comes up Faust to me. Faust has such a strong reputation of dieing N1 that it seems he would feel really inclined to shoot the player whose PR is known. Other players I think may have let Roadrunner lived and tried to shoot for a more valuable PR or an unknown.

I just saw this. I will only say that trying to figure out why scum killed a certain person is like reading tea leaves most of the time. Well, this time RR had a strong claimed PR that had already outed one scum (so he was pretty darn towny), so you don't have to go through such lengthy tinfoil theories to explain why they killed him.

[J Reggie]

[Case against Faust]

Ss laid it out cleanly here. Faust's D1 is pretty scummy, with his position on Jan's wagon being bad.

I refuted all that already. Which part of my refute was not convincing to you?

Your rebuttal seemed forced and weak to me. The way you tried to prove ss wrong by saying you would have switched to Jan as town or scum. The way you tried to say it was obvious that one of RR and Jan was scum even though it wasn't.

I didn't really have that strong a scum read on you, but the way you're defending yourself here is making things worse.

[faust]

[Case against Faust]

Ss laid it out cleanly here. Faust's D1 is pretty scummy, with his position on Jan's wagon being bad.

I refuted all that already. Which part of my refute was not convincing to you?

Your rebuttal seemed forced and weak to me. The way you tried to prove ss wrong by saying you would have switched to Jan as town or scum. The way you tried to say it was obvious that one of RR and Jan was scum even though it wasn't.

I didn't really have that strong a scum read on you, but the way you're defending yourself here is making things worse.

It's called confirmation bias.

I never said that bit about switching to Jan; where do you get that from? The other thing, fair enough, it wasn't well said. What about my way of defending myself do you find scummy? For some reason, once people start suspecting me, I never seem to get out of it again. I guess defending isn't my strong suit and I should care more about not being suspected in the first place. Oh well.

[faust]

There is some information that might be good to share for me, but... well, I would really prefer to talk to someone with flavor knowledge first.

[J Reggie]

There is some information that might be good to share for me, but... well, I would really prefer to talk to someone with flavor knowledge first.

http://heroes.wikia.com/wiki/Heroes_Wiki

Ask away.

[faust]

There is some information that might be good to share for me, but... well, I would really prefer to talk to someone with flavor knowledge first.

http://heroes.wikia.com/wiki/Heroes_Wiki

Ask away.

I know there's a wiki, and I read it, but I didn't get anything conclusive from it unfortunately. Do you know more or are you just snarky?

[J Reggie]

There is some information that might be good to share for me, but... well, I would really prefer to talk to someone with flavor knowledge first.

http://heroes.wikia.com/wiki/Heroes_Wiki

Ask away.

I know there's a wiki, and I read it, but I didn't get anything conclusive from it unfortunately. Do you know more or are you just snarky?

I'm just snarky. Sorry, I didn't know if it would have occurred to you to check the wiki.