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[fontisian]

In the game I played with RR, the things he did made sense /from a certain point of view/. I was able to twist my head around his thought-process and basically understand. Here I'm trying to do that, and everything he does seems scum motivated.

Uh, what have I done? In general?

You've written things like this.

Everyone can see how mafia this is, right? Right?

I think I wrote that once and I tend to do that more as town.

Like this! Look at this! Look at it!

He's not saying that my assessment is wrong because he's town here, he's saying that even though he's mafia here, he wrote something like that as town before.

[J Reggie]

In the game I played with RR, the things he did made sense /from a certain point of view/. I was able to twist my head around his thought-process and basically understand. Here I'm trying to do that, and everything he does seems scum motivated.

Uh, what have I done? In general?

You've written things like this.

Everyone can see how mafia this is, right? Right?

I think I wrote that once and I tend to do that more as town.

Like this! Look at this! Look at it!

He's not saying that my assessment is wrong because he's town here, he's saying that even though he's mafia here, he wrote something like that as town before.

I think he's saying you gave an example of a thing that he only did once in this game, but he still tends to do it more as town anyway. Which I agree with.

[fontisian]

Yes, I know that's what he's saying on the surface. I am reading between the lines and trying to figure out why he said it that way.

[Roadrunner7671]

Yes, I know that's what he's saying on the surface. I am reading between the lines and trying to figure out why he said it that way.

Like iguanaiguana said, there is no 'between the lines' with me.

Unless it's my dope soft claim.

[fontisian]

There's a between the lines with everyone.

[Roadrunner7671]

There's a between the lines with everyone.

I suppose we just disagree on this ground. Alright.

But seriously dude. I'm town!

[faust]

unvote haddock

I'm willing to bet there's a lurker mafia between jan, chairs, haddock, but I don't see a lynch on any of those happening. So I won't waste my time

vote roadrunner

Time to test my theory about Fonti. Iguana doesn't feel mafia with the way he's posting and I'm liking j Reggie. I think faust's early read on him is pretty good, can understand where he's coming from and I agree with the read, like him now.

I don't like this, because it's voting for someone that you do not have a scumread on. There's little accountability.

[faust]

Ah. Time to strike.

vote: iguana

Man. I was going to vote for him because his I-don't-care-and-none-of-this-matters-attitude starts feeling forced, then silver comes in. Meh. I don't want to always agree with silver.

Anyway, last time I looked there were a couple of votes on iguana. I'm too lazy to check, so I won't vote.

[faust]

But really, fontisian does have a point.

Vote: Raodrunner

I feel like at this point, form the way people are treating him, he could say almost anything and get away with it, "because he's RR". That is no good, people need to be accountable for their actions.

I might also want to take a closer look at who defended RR. I think scum usually gains an advantage from townreading him: Either he's their partner (d'oh), and if he's town, well, he's unlikely to pose a threat and likely to fall for buddying, so he's the ideal candidate to white knight.

[silverspawn]

But really, fontisian does have a point.

Vote: Raodrunner

I feel like at this point, form the way people are treating him, he could say almost anything and get away with it, "because he's RR". That is no good, people need to be accountable for their actions.

I might also want to take a closer look at who defended RR. I think scum usually gains an advantage from townreading him: Either he's their partner (d'oh), and if he's town, well, he's unlikely to pose a threat and likely to fall for buddying, so he's the ideal candidate to white knight.

I don't like this, because it's voting for someone that you do not have a scumread on. There's little accountability.

[silverspawn]

(Never before has quoting you to address another post of you been so accurate)

Look, I don't have a problem with scumreading RR for reasons. But if those reasons are "different than in his previous town game" then I have to question the reliability of those reasons. They all seemed to be random votes to me.

[Cron]

Wow Faust just turned 180 degrees in about 15 minutes.

Towns:
Teamlyle
Silver
Fonti
Faust
J Reggie

Scums:
RR

Chair

Everyone else is null.

[faust]

(Never before has quoting you to address another post of you been so accurate)

Look, I don't have a problem with scumreading RR for reasons. But if those reasons are "different than in his previous town game" then I have to question the reliability of those reasons. They all seemed to be random votes to me.

Maybe I did not make myself clear - I do think RR's posts so far are scummy. To figure out why let's take a closer look... we have

- stating he hasn't read his PM. Not reading your PM is null. Saying you did not read your PM is scummy.
- he "has a softclaim lined up". Uh. Apparently half an hour after he read is PM. That is some quick thinking.
- finally, his exchange with fontisian was scummy. fontisian was right that he tried to appear towny more than actually being towny.

[silverspawn]

your original post sounded more like a policy argument to me. "we should not let him get away with this."

Fair enough.

[Seprix]

(Never before has quoting you to address another post of you been so accurate)

Look, I don't have a problem with scumreading RR for reasons. But if those reasons are "different than in his previous town game" then I have to question the reliability of those reasons. They all seemed to be random votes to me.

Maybe I did not make myself clear - I do think RR's posts so far are scummy. To figure out why let's take a closer look... we have

- stating he hasn't read his PM. Not reading your PM is null. Saying you did not read your PM is scummy.
- he "has a softclaim lined up". Uh. Apparently half an hour after he read is PM. That is some quick thinking.
- finally, his exchange with fontisian was scummy. fontisian was right that he tried to appear towny more than actually being towny.

Ooof, those are some good arguments. But it is RR... Hmmmm.

[Roadrunner7671]

I'm becoming the new Awaclus apparently. If Faust doesn't see sense though, I'm done.

[gkrieg13]

unvote haddock

I'm willing to bet there's a lurker mafia between jan, chairs, haddock, but I don't see a lynch on any of those happening. So I won't waste my time

vote roadrunner

Time to test my theory about Fonti. Iguana doesn't feel mafia with the way he's posting and I'm liking j Reggie. I think faust's early read on him is pretty good, can understand where he's coming from and I agree with the read, like him now.

Was just reading through and saw these.  When I do vote counts, I ctrl+f vote:.  If your vote doesn't match that syntax, it won't be counted.  So the space between vote: and the name doesn't matter, but the bold and the colon are necessary.

[faust]

Umm... where is everyone?

[Roadrunner7671]

Umm... where is everyone?

Sulking

[Cellovix]

To all: I have some unexpected real life stuff going down that I need to deal with. I'll be back in ~2 days.  Maybe less, if all goes well.  If that's unacceptable and you need to replace me, I understand!

[J Reggie]

To all: I have some unexpected real life stuff going down that I need to deal with. I'll be back in ~2 days.  Maybe less, if all goes well.  If that's unacceptable and you need to replace me, I understand!

I believe that's acceptable as long as you let us know (which you just did).

[Jan]

To all: I have some unexpected real life stuff going down that I need to deal with. I'll be back in ~2 days.  Maybe less, if all goes well.  If that's unacceptable and you need to replace me, I understand!

I was about to go hard on your ass for first making hollow posts towards the less active faction and then not responding within a certain timeframe.

Nevermind for now. Get your things fixed, but I do expect some fun as soon as you get back.

[Seprix]

vote: SS

He's not fooling me again. He's scum in every single game.

[silverspawn]

Well I am not allowed to say it in the other thread, but in this thread, now that the other game is over, I am allowed to say that this game indeed broke my 4-time scum streak, and I finally got town again.

Also other games don't affect the probability of this game yadayada you know.

[Seprix]

Well I am not allowed to say it in the other thread, but in this thread, now that the other game is over, I am allowed to say that this game indeed broke my 4-time scum streak, and I finally got town again.

You said that last time!!!