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[Roadrunner7671]

I have literally no idea how to read RR.

Almost everything he posts makes me want to vote him, but I suspect it's kind of a par for the course sort of deal.

When reading RR, there's a really good expression to follow: 'a bird in the hand is worth two in the nest.'

[gkrieg13]

Vote Count 1.1

Seprix(2): J Reggie, Haddock
Silver(1): Jan
Cellovix(1): faust
Roadrunner7671(2): Seprix, fontisian
iguanaiguana(5): Cellovix, chairs, teamlyle, iguanaiguana, silverspawn

Not Voting(3): Cron, Roadrunner7671

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.  D1 ends July 17, 12PM forum time

[Cellovix]

I am not voting Faust.

Not intentionally at least? 

[Roadrunner7671]

I am not voting Faust.

Not intentionally at least?

Faust is voting for you

[gkrieg13]

I am not voting Faust.

Not intentionally at least?

fixed.  I keep on mixing you and Cron up.  It would be nice if you had an avatar so I could keep you guys straight.

[Cellovix]

Unvote, since apparently I still had RVS vote on Iguana.

I am not voting Faust.

Not intentionally at least?

Faust is voting for you

I know. Mod took my @faust as a vote when I was just directing a question at him.  He fixed it quickly.

[Cellovix]

fixed.  I keep on mixing you and Cron up.  It would be nice if you had an avatar so I could keep you guys straight.

Fixed.  I had a space or something in the avatar field, so it broke.

[Cellovix]

A couple generic questions:

1) Is there an easy way to isolate someone's posts for the game thread?

2) Are their site rules for multi-posting? Or am I free to spam away when I'm the only person in the thread, talking to myself? (I'm mostly kidding here, I just wasn't sure if I should stand around and twiddle my thumbs after posting 2-3 times in a row, or if it was permissible to make another post without waiting for a combo breaker)

[silverspawn]

A couple generic questions:

1) Is there an easy way to isolate someone's posts for the game thread?

Navigate to the bottom of the page, click on "All" right of "Pages:". Wait a bit for the entire thread to load. Click CTRL+F, type something unique to a user's forum profile (standard solution is, "goko username: XXX"), navigate through posts by pressing enter. That's the best thing we have.

2) Are their site rules for multi-posting? Or am I free to spam away when I'm the only person in the thread, talking to myself? (I'm mostly kidding here, I just wasn't sure if I should stand around and twiddle my thumbs after posting 2-3 times in a row, or if it was permissible to make another post without waiting for a combo breaker)

It is allowed and not discouraged. Post away.

[silverspawn]

I did wonder before what happens in cases where you have a confirmed scum. Theoretically, it would now be good play for him to spam the thread needlessly. But no-one's ever done it.

[Cellovix]

I quoted the entire game thread once as outed scum.  It was a fast paced game with like 30 minute day phases, so I was just being deliberately obnoxious, as it was -EV town to lynch me before the rest of my team due to weird mechanics.

[Cellovix]

...second.

Never saw it myself.

vote: iguanaiguana that that Quinn is on town.

Vote: Chairs

[faust]

A couple generic questions:

1) Is there an easy way to isolate someone's posts for the game thread?

Navigate to the bottom of the page, click on "All" right of "Pages:". Wait a bit for the entire thread to load. Click CTRL+F, type something unique to a user's forum profile (standard solution is, "goko username: XXX"), navigate through posts by pressing enter. That's the best thing we have.

Alternatively, go to the Print screen and search for "Post by: Playername". Plusses: Also works with non-unique profiles and loads faster. Minus: less pretty.

[teamlyle]

There's no way I'm going to get lynched todsy for no reason.

"I'm mafia, but you're voting me for the wrong reasons."

Saying that doesn't really prove anything...

Yeah, the RR wagon is weaksauce. fonti has an excuse for voting; she's never had to form a real read on him. Seprix and igu - bad.

I find myself agreeing a lot with silver. I remember I had that some game before and wondered what it meant. Unfortunately, I do not remember how that game turned out.

True, the first people who voted for RR didn't give any reason for it. After RR started freaking out, though, that would be a perfect time for scum to strike and lynch a townie early game, just by bandwagoning. Vote: iguanaiguana

The iguana votes are bad for the same reason the RR votes are bad. iguana's casual "let's make a wagon" is not something that comes from scum more often than from town.

I disagree. I think that scum would try to make a wagon, and Iguana saying "I'm making a wagon" is a failed attempt to make himself look like town. If it was actually meant as a casual statement why would he actually vote for RR then?

[faust]

I disagree. I think that scum would try to make a wagon, and Iguana saying "I'm making a wagon" is a failed attempt to make himself look like town. If it was actually meant as a casual statement why would he actually vote for RR then?

How is that a failed attempt to look like town?

Why wold he not vote for RR?

[teamlyle]

I disagree. I think that scum would try to make a wagon, and Iguana saying "I'm making a wagon" is a failed attempt to make himself look like town. If it was actually meant as a casual statement why would he actually vote for RR then?

How is that a failed attempt to look like town?

Why wold he not vote for RR?

Well, reverse-reverse psychology.

Psychology: Oh, he said he's making a wagon, that's something that scum do.

Reverse psychology: Since he's so blatantly saying that he's making a wagon, it's probably just a town joke rather than a scum giveaway.

Reverse-reverse psychology: Iguana wants to think that, so he's probably scum.

[iguanaiguana]

Reverse-Reverse-Reverse Psychology: I knew you would think of that, and wanted to impress you by out-thinking even this deep level of manipulation! So I am in fact... a town!

Unvote


I guess I like the Seprix votes best of everyone right now. But his play can be pretty awful sometimes (no offense, I think you know what instance I'm talking about) so... whoknowsreally ^^

[silverspawn]

it's called wifom.

[iguanaiguana]

Full disclosure, I do not find Roadrunner at all scummy this game, and in fact was town-leaning him when I voted him. But I saw no harm in voting him so early in the game when he was unlikely to be lynched and was curious who else might join the vote. I thought maybe we'd see some scum-tells out of the new players who don't know his meta yet.

It didn't go so well, so I self-voted for fun. Now my games are over and I shall play for real until I don't feel like it anymore.

Happy weekend!

[faust]

I disagree. I think that scum would try to make a wagon, and Iguana saying "I'm making a wagon" is a failed attempt to make himself look like town. If it was actually meant as a casual statement why would he actually vote for RR then?

How is that a failed attempt to look like town?

Why wold he not vote for RR?

Well, reverse-reverse psychology.

Psychology: Oh, he said he's making a wagon, that's something that scum do.

Reverse psychology: Since he's so blatantly saying that he's making a wagon, it's probably just a town joke rather than a scum giveaway.

Reverse-reverse psychology: Iguana wants to think that, so he's probably scum.

And why is it reverse-reverse psychology rather than just reverse psychology?

[faust]

The Seprix Reread That Was Promised:

We have the first J Reggie vote. It's a bad vote, based on a misunderstanding. But bad != scummy. He goes on to speculate about what roles mafia could have - that's actually slightly townie. Then he votes RR for making a joke (?). Seprix has not yet given reasoning for this vote, so it's hard to interpret.

Well, that's all. There's one thing that's slightly townie and the rest is null.

[faust]

unvote: Faust

I'm starting to like and agree with your content. Can you still explain the j Reggie town read though. He's your top town why?

Such a carefree entrance. Bolding "I'm town" in his first post. Giving a basically full-game pass to teamlyle. Blatant OMGUS after Seprix votes for him. These are all things that can be perceived as scummy, and doing all of this as scum takes balls. I think it's more likely town on a rampage.

[Cellovix]

Fair enough.  I think he's marginally more likely to be town than null, but given you claimed to know him pretty well, I wanted to try and evaluate how you'd approach it and see how you think.

Results are kind of inconclusive, but I think I like you not jumping on him for doing bad things, and making the distinction between bad and scummy.

[Cellovix]

I have places to be and things to quack at, so I'm probably dipping out for the evening.

I'm hopeful Chairs, Jan, Haddock show up and do things.  I have a decent amount of light town reads, which means the people making no imprint on the game are pretty plausibly scum.

[faust]

Seprix is kinda like RR light. He does crazy stuff and posts a lot (actually didn't post that much so far), but the stuff is not quite as crazy as RR's stuff. Still, everything that happened so far is well within his meta.

Still when it comes down to it, I'd lynch him, because I'll never forgive him for missing the quickhammer in That One Game.