Vote: Joseph2302
That fakehammer was scummy.
RVSs himself. Welp, OK. I've not seen that before, but it's no kind of alignment tell.
Follows with more RVS guff. Fine, fine, carrying on.
First slightly odd thing:
Voting Haddock in this game is as crazy as it is the only sensible thing to do in most games with Haddock.
Sorry, can you reword that? I genuinely can't figure out what it means as currently worded.
Yh, that makes no sense to me either.
Vote: iguana.
PPE: 1
This is just a bit strange. There doesn't seem to be any real justification for the vote there. It's relevant that II is now an IC. You can basically call it RVS though, I guess. Like, RVS+a tiny bit. Not sure there's anything real to take from this.
You've solved the game already, congratulations.
It is a me, e, iguana scum team.
In the context of the game currently, this does look genuinely scummy, tying himself to two now conf!town players. But he's being sarcastic. Like, the tiniest of scum points for this.
Vote: e.
Reading properly is obvious scum.
RVS over by this point. More small scum points.
I wasn't being sarcastic.
I'm using my standard moves from Resistance: Avalon, where I tell everyone all game that I'm Morgana.
By the way, I'm scum.
...aannnnddd so it begins. OK, so the sarcasm thing seems to refer to the post I quoted two back. And it looks pretty sarcastic to me. I dunno. This whole things just seems to drip with irony.
The "I'm scum" claim is what sets Awaclus off. I dunno, it seems to me he's just referencing his playstyle in some other game and then jokingly saying "Look, why don't I emulate that, har har!". It's a joke. And yeah, excessively jokey attitude is scummy sometimes, but really? Not seeing it.
It just reads like eccentric town to me.
vote: Joseph
Was that the hammer? If so, it was so bad.
I mean how the hell did we get a lynch in 27 hours?
This is his fakehammer response. It does a lot of work for him.
From my experience with Joseph, I can't be entirely sure whether scum!Joseph is alert enough at this point to fake this. I mean, maybe? Whatever the case, this wins him a ton of town points.
Not necessarily what scum would do, but it's anti-town.
An lynching an anti-town player D1 isn't the worst decision.
Scummy. As is this:
No I don't think someone should be policy-lynched, although I do believe that fakehammers are anti-town. They almost never give any information, as if I was scum, I wouldn't reveal it even if I thought i was lynched. Right now, anti-town seems like the best person I can vote for, as I don't currently have any scum reads.
Cool. Had it been an unannounced L-1, I'd probably have voted for you, as I find it very anti-town.
Not announcing L-1 leads to derphammers, which is bad.
Ewww. More anti-town pushing.
He pushes gkrieg for a bit then, which is maybe worth noting for later.
Then this, which is pretty interesting:
Wouldn't lynch:
e
ii
Town points for that. Though he seems to soften his position on ii shortly after:
Joseph is whatever. Not opposed if people don't want to do Haddock/igu
Don't particularly want to do ii anymore.
"Not particularly" rather than "not at all". So, I take some of those town points back, he's still leaving the door open for an ii lynch.
He then proceeds to hop on the Egor wagon super quick, again because "antitown". His positioning doesn't look good. He's like, 3rd on the wagon, which probably exactly where scum want to be on a mislynch wagon.
I do stupid things a lot. In and outside Mafia. The question du jour is if these last minutes for Joseph look like scum hoping for a reprieve or town commiserating a pending mislynch.
You can lynch me if you want, it isn't the worst lynch, although it's not the best either.
So that's quite a scummy response, but, same post:
But first think about this question:
When I flip town (from everyone else's perspective it's "If I flip town"), then who were the scum on my wagon?
That's pretty towny. Eesh.
OK so this:
can't we just stop this and lynch Egork instead?
I'm open to that possibility.
can be taken either way. It's either weirdly obvious partner interaction (unlikely?!) or it's just Joseph going for self-preservation. I pick the second thing.
He does go on to defend silver against PPS for a bit though. Nahh it's way too blatant, surely:
... Vote: silverspawn
Ugh, no- not a good lynch option in my opinion.
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Think ss is town, and I'm definitely town
Then at deadline he pushes Egor over e pretty hard. He hardly has any good options there, Egor and e being the leading wagons and both town. Nothing much to take from that.
Early D2 there are two main things. He talks a lot of sense about fruit claims etc, and pulls a total flipflop re. silver, who he suddenly starts scumreading, at least slightly.
The first looks good, the second a bit bad maybe. He doesn't give a good reason (just OMGUS) for his sudden change of stance. Like maybe silver told him during the night to stop townreading him so blatantly?
Then a big argument with Seprix and Awaclus about the nature of yuma's quitting. Well, nothing to take from that, Awaclus was being Awaclus and Seprix hadn't read the setup properly, Joseph doing pretty well not to get pretty pissed off, to my mind.
He does proceed to OMGUS Awaclus pretty hard, though. Not good.
Then silver gets lynched, Joseph is offwagon, and we get this:
Didn't expect that so soon.
On the other hand, I think ss might well be scum, and it probably was the lynch that would happen at some point.
Massive extended twilight I guess, since it's 2am in USA
Which does look a hell of a lot like scum trying to avoid getting scum points for being offwagon. "I would have been on the wagon, honest". Yeah scum points here.
Today not much to say. He votes Seprix without giving reasons, which looks a bit OMGUSy. I don't think Seprix is particularly towny though, so eh.
This is a long long post. Basically Joseph has done a bunch of quite scummy things and a bunch of seriously seriously towny things. It still comes to a townread overall for me.