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[silverspawn]

why are the kills "coordinated"?

well because they all hit PRs. You think that's coincidence? Seems very unlikely. I think it is more reasonable to assume a source of knowledge.

[Jan]

why are the kills "coordinated"?

well because they all hit PRs. You think that's coincidence? Seems very unlikely. I think it is more reasonable to assume a source of knowledge.

I agree that those two kills might be done by one mafia team, if they realized that reggie had a green on seprix.

They might have some sort of rolecop too, which makes it easier. Hard to say.

Silver - can you explain to me why you wanted to keep lio alive around EoD1 and pushed for a CFD on Hydrad?

[A Drowned Kernel]

J Reggie has been killed in the night! He was Sherlock Holmes, the Consultant Detective!

If Detective means what it usually means that at least strongly implies the presence of a SK. I'll go check faust's standardized list.

[Jan]

J Reggie has been killed in the night! He was Sherlock Holmes, the Consultant Detective!

If Detective means what it usually means that at least strongly implies the presence of a SK. I'll go check faust's standardized list.

I assumed it just means cop - am i wrong? :O

[silverspawn]

Silver - can you explain to me why you wanted to keep lio alive around EoD1 and pushed for a CFD on Hydrad?

Hydrad was on the scummy side of null and that made him better than liopoil who I thought was unlikely scum after his claim

[A Drowned Kernel]

J Reggie has been killed in the night! He was Sherlock Holmes, the Consultant Detective!

If Detective means what it usually means that at least strongly implies the presence of a SK. I'll go check faust's standardized list.

I assumed it just means cop - am i wrong? :O

Usually detective is a cop variant that gets "SK/not SK" but it's not on faust's list.

[silverspawn]

J Reggie has been killed in the night! He was Sherlock Holmes, the Consultant Detective!

If Detective means what it usually means that at least strongly implies the presence of a SK. I'll go check faust's standardized list.

I assumed it just means cop - am i wrong? :O

Usually detective is a cop variant that gets "SK/not SK" but it's not on faust's list.

Is it? I see no entry in the wiki. I know that role as "FBI Agent"

[Jan]

D1 response to the hydra push around EoD:

That hydra lynch is awful for a single reason. We have no interactions, nothing to go off regardless of what he flips.

Hydras is in like the bottom three people I want to lynch 

I don't like how Jan does the "if this person is scum then this person must be scum" thing, that feels so scummy.

I am not for this Hydrad wagon.

vote: ss

Get your tower out of the clouds, I am not scummy.

You are not just scummy, you're actual scum too.

Also the Hydrad wagon is awful. We should just lynch liopoil at this point.

That hydra lynch is awful for a single reason. We have no interactions, nothing to go off regardless of what he flips.

I think you're right here, actually. Like, even if I die, that's more information than a Hydrad lynch.

unvote

The people speaking up for hydra are 3 flipped town (Reggie Awaclus Seprix) one spewed town (myself) and one person who is fairly townread in general (rr).

If liopoil is some sort of scum pr, then the hydrad wagon might be a planned bus. Just something to keep in mind.
If liopoil is town then the wagon is at least 3/4 town, likely 4/4.

[A Drowned Kernel]

Is it? I see no entry in the wiki. I know that role as "FBI Agent"
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You're right, I was misremembering. The only other place I can find it is in yuma's setup where it returns a result of "has killed/has not killed". faust is... probably using that?

[fontisian]

I want a State of the Game from Melisandre.

[2.71828.....]

So I was wrong about a few things. First of all, seprix.

Jan's analysis here is really good and we need to do more of that. I think one thing that it could mean is that if hydrad's partners weren't willing to defend him d1 then they might bus iguana d2. Obviously not just giving RR and Jan free passes as town here, but he was right about seprix, Reggie, and Awaclus

[Witherweaver]

Off the top of my head, ADK is likely Town.  Didn't get to do my reread of him.  I didn't realize I subbed in like a day before deadline. 

Surprised about JReggie.  His treatment of the Iguana wagon looked bad even given Iguana flipped scum.  Seprix is less surprising.  He's the only one that has stuck out as likely town.

[Melisandre]

I want a State of the Game from Melisandre.

Certainly - my town-reads have been on-point this game so I look forward to revisiting the whole game and consolidating my reads.

The two night-kills reveals we are still in a precarious position though (3 scum remaining expected).


I am encouraged by your push on iguanaiguana [post my final thoughts of D2: Post #1593] - I feel you have enough town-cred to be cleared as not group-scum for today (obviously not confirmed-town, but you are now no longer in my null pile: your motivations were evident and expressive, IMO you are no longer "holding back".).

It will be interesting to gauge at which point iguanaiguana became dead-weight scum/the inevitable lynch on D2. When I left the thread he was not confirmed scum (prior to his hammer, I had no positive/direct part in his lynch) but there was enough meat on his case to get my teeth into (J Reggie and silverspawn with their two respective angles) [NOTE: revisit both their scum-cases on iguanaiguana.] Actually, the fact there was a lack of any "enthusiastic counter wagons" intrigued me at the time - was iguanaiguana that really dead and buried? (I honestly was not fully convinced by the scum-slip angle).

[gkrieg13]

Wow.  Well I was completely wrong about a lot of things.  I'll have to look at everything again and make new reads. 

liopoil still seems like a good place to look.

[Roadrunner7671]

I thought my iguanaiguana thing was funny.

So I said this was RMM, didn't I?

And funnily enough, I look super scummy on D3, but for once I'm not scum.

I still don't think Liopoil is mafia. Scum, maybe.

[Jan]

regardless of who we lynch today, please let us end the day at a better time than last time.

that eod was kinda meh and stupid. Since the mod just makes it 7 day long phase could we maybe end it after 6,5 days?

thanks.

[liopoil]

Ok now knowing that I am town is a very useful thing indeed because there aren't too many off-wagon people. Maybe I can have good reads now.

Looks like fontisian is town pretty much for suresies. That iguana lynch was totally avoidable for scum. Haddock and silver are on the town side too.

I should have a lot more coming once I look back a bit...

Despite the bad town deaths I think we are in great shape.

[Witherweaver]

Ok now knowing that I am town is a very useful thing indeed because there aren't too many off-wagon people. Maybe I can have good reads now.

Looks like fontisian is town pretty much for suresies. That iguana lynch was totally avoidable for scum. Haddock and silver are on the town side too.

I should have a lot more coming once I look back a bit...

Despite the bad town deaths I think we are in great shape.

Vote: Liopoil

[liopoil]

Okay I think there should be a scum between gkrieg and witherweaver. Probably Witherweaver.

[liopoil]

lol I didn't see WW's vote before that post

[liopoil]

I continue to insist that I have not softclaimed anything. Only if you read more into my posts than what is there would you get that impression.

[Haddock]

Liopoil you should claim.

If I claim you might as well lynch me. If you read my posts more carefully you might realize that. So I'm not claiming.

Not to late to switch to Seprox, I guess. But shame on you allfor thinking I'm scum. I think the posts are out there for you to see otherwise, but I'm biased.

This looks very much like a softclaim to me.
If not, it's just an incredibly scummy deflection.

[gkrieg13]

vote: liopoil

[liopoil]

Liopoil you should claim.

If I claim you might as well lynch me. If you read my posts more carefully you might realize that. So I'm not claiming.

Not to late to switch to Seprox, I guess. But shame on you allfor thinking I'm scum. I think the posts are out there for you to see otherwise, but I'm biased.

This looks very much like a softclaim to me.
If not, it's just an incredibly scummy deflection.

Nope, just all honesty. If I claimed you should and would have just lynched me. In retrospect it would have been hard but possible to realize that before, the second line is mostly just cryptic. So I didn't claim. Obviously the next line is deflection, but it's not scummy.

Note that I am at L-2 and the easiest lynch ever.

What's remarkable is that you all are only saying this now, rather than on D2.

[liopoil]

It's also completely silly to think that there can't be 5 PRs. If I were a spectator I would honestly estimate ~6 PRs at this point.