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Re: M79: Sherlock Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #950 on: June 01, 2016, 02:52:00 pm »

Liopoil is still L-3 anyway, so not committing just reads like you not wanting to make a decision and go with whatever everyone else does.

That's freaking sheeping. So if I don't want to commit, I'm scum, and if I commit, I'm a freaking sheep and I'm scum anyways?

Sounds good to me
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Re: M79: Sherlock Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #951 on: June 01, 2016, 02:54:22 pm »

Liopoil is still L-3 anyway, so not committing just reads like you not wanting to make a decision and go with whatever everyone else does.

That's freaking sheeping. So if I don't want to commit, I'm scum, and if I commit, I'm a freaking sheep and I'm scum anyways?

Sounds good to me

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Re: M79: Sherlock Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #952 on: June 01, 2016, 02:56:16 pm »

Liopoil is still L-3 anyway, so not committing just reads like you not wanting to make a decision and go with whatever everyone else does.
Didn't someone say it is L-2 earlier?

Last vote count has him at 6 votes
Adk switched his vote to you, missed that one

Vote: Liopoil

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Re: M79: Sherlock Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #953 on: June 01, 2016, 02:57:30 pm »

So Lio is at L-1? If so, I won't hammer.
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Re: M79: Sherlock Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #954 on: June 01, 2016, 02:57:49 pm »

So Lio is at L-1? If so, I won't hammer.

I mean, I could, and I might, but I won't currently.
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Re: M79: Sherlock Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #955 on: June 01, 2016, 03:00:52 pm »

Pretty sure he's still at L-2, but could we get a vote count?

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Re: M79: Sherlock Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #956 on: June 01, 2016, 03:02:47 pm »

Vote Count 1.13

2.71828..... (3): A Drowned Kernel, Seprix, fontisian
liopoil (7): Teproc, Haddock, Hydrad, Awaclus, gkrieg13, Roadrunner7671, Jan
Jan (2): silverspawn, liopoil
Seprix (1): 2.71828......

Not Voting (3): Ichimaru Gin, Melisandre, J Reggie

With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch. Day 1 ends June 1 at 4:30 pm forum time. That's in 1 hour, 28 minutes.
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Re: M79: Sherlock Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #957 on: June 01, 2016, 03:04:51 pm »

Is liopoil going to be here for the deadline? I might jump on the wagon if I need to.

Also, has liopoil claimed anything?

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Re: M79: Sherlock Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #958 on: June 01, 2016, 03:08:16 pm »

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Re: M79: Sherlock Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #959 on: June 01, 2016, 03:16:03 pm »

here. Haven't read anything yet, but am guessing people haven't read all I've said either
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Re: M79: Sherlock Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #960 on: June 01, 2016, 03:19:59 pm »

Oh. I didn't realize it was 7/2 now. That's bizarre.

let's try vote: Hydrad. Last hour switch, anyone?

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Re: M79: Sherlock Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #961 on: June 01, 2016, 03:23:06 pm »

Wow my wagon is bullshit. Not a single person has posted a single reason I am scum in the past 12+ hours, yet I have gotten 6 votes in that time.
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Re: M79: Sherlock Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #962 on: June 01, 2016, 03:25:43 pm »

I am being voted as the default "oops we didn't catch anyone" lynch, while there is absolutely no reason I should be that lynch. I've been active and productive and have produced many reads for myself and others, and this will cotinue in later days.

Deflection time. Vote: Hydrad
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Re: M79: Sherlock Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #963 on: June 01, 2016, 03:27:05 pm »

*shrug*

vote: Hydrad
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Re: M79: Sherlock Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #964 on: June 01, 2016, 03:27:31 pm »

Now that I think about, it, if we need a default lynch, it really should be Hydrad.

Seprix is also a decent lynch. He is somewhat scummy. Jan is still my number one choice but that wagon had its chance.
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Re: M79: Sherlock Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #965 on: June 01, 2016, 03:28:11 pm »

Now that I think about, it, if we need a default lynch, it really should be Hydrad.

Seprix is also a decent lynch. He is somewhat scummy. Jan is still my number one choice but that wagon had its chance.

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Re: M79: Sherlock Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #966 on: June 01, 2016, 03:29:11 pm »

Vote: Hydrad

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Re: M79: Sherlock Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #967 on: June 01, 2016, 03:29:47 pm »

e lynch is awful. I highly encourage fontisian and ADK to move their votes, that lynch is not happening. ADK will probably vote for me, oh well.

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Re: M79: Sherlock Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #968 on: June 01, 2016, 03:31:36 pm »

So there are people in this game .. and there is timing.

And this is mostly my gut, but depending on the flips and what happens i want to write it down just so people maaaybe remember it in later days. I know people won't read my posts once i am dead, but here's for hoping.

Let us start with the mainwagon - Lio.

Something that i disliked and that people should take a closer look at IF lio flips scum.

Melisandres push timing on me was at a moment where the lio wagon was getting stronger.
That timing in itself might be him trying to derail the lio wagon.

His accusation on me in itself was weak, but if he is scum and knows i am town, then he might not want to overcommit there.
He didn't think i was really scum, he just wanted me to get into roleclaim territory.
Uncertainty on day 1 is a thing, so it is not damning, but something to look at if Lio flips scum.
To add to that is the fact that he unvoted when RR put lio on L-2.

That might be a coincidence, but it is something to at least look at if lio is scum. If lio is town this though process doesn't matter at all.


To add to that is that I think Melisandres reads this game differ a bit from the champs game.
In the champs game he iso read people and was fairly certain that they are town from it (not every time but more often than not)
This game he felt less sure about his conclusion. Which might just be because it is a different game with different people.

I just remember him read christian d1 hard town, then rad chdog hard town d2 despite him having awful content, just for tone/attitude  alone. Calling Yatta the obvious Lynchbait d2.
This game might still be in d1, but the gametimes is longer and the content most people have given is similar to the ones those people gave that game.

Maybe I am remembering this wrong and he gave several clear reads this game, but he felt less commited in what i remember. (something to check back on, just wanted to push it out there).


Moving on!

Now I want to talk for a minute about E! I will refer to him as "number two" or #2 because he is the 2nd wagon and well E.

If #2 is scum then taking a look and Silverspawn might not be the worst idea.

I mentioned how i felt like silver is keeping his options open with me being aligned to E because people fake certain situations/interactions.

While he did that he instantly agreed to clear Melisandre (he townread both E and Melisandre). I gave the reason that Melisandres push timing was weird to be my partner, considering the lio wagon, BUT faking a bad push just to make me look better is as easy as faking a fight.

So yeah .. if #2 is scum, then there is a good chance silverspawn is with him and Melisandre is town.


Next step would be my dear fontisian aka fonti aka devils bride aka fartface.

I am split about her as of right now, because several towny things she did are not exactly working out fine.

I think if lio is town then she is likely to be town too, because of the questioning with was either just helpful or coaching.

If lio is scum then they might be partners. Nothing I am 100% sure about, but iI disliked some of their interactions. Her read on him early, his weak push against it, without actually caring. Then him kinda flipping his read if i remember correctly (not looking stuff up right now). Possible partners, his reaction towards her was slightly off i think.

I am unsure where to put #2 in that case. I can see them splitting between myself and #2, fonti knows her pushing on me there would basically out her instantly and the moment i flip town she would always be the next lynch.
I am not sure if #2 is town in that case, because fontis momentum to jump on #2 was perfect for a veteran to bus a partner that they felt just fucked up.
#2 got soft protected by several other people, so nothing bad happened to him.


Will have to think a little bit more about that. Might add more soon.
As said this are mostly theories and behavior analysis if at one point either lio or #2 become confirmed scum.


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Re: M79: Sherlock Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #969 on: June 01, 2016, 03:33:38 pm »

Another note, probably not noteworthy:

I have actually played this entire game on mobile. And the timestamps on my double posts are not that far apart. As scum I spend way more time on my posts and there are fewer of them, like most scum players.

PPE haven't read yet. I have skimmed everything else since this morning.
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Re: M79: Sherlock Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #970 on: June 01, 2016, 03:33:54 pm »

Talking and refelcting about that.

my top lynch eprsonally would actually #2

close followed by liopoil.


That hydra lynch is awful for a single reason. We have no interactions, nothing to go off regardless of what he flips.
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Re: M79: Sherlock Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #971 on: June 01, 2016, 03:37:27 pm »

Talking and refelcting about that.

my top lynch eprsonally would actually #2

close followed by liopoil.


That hydra lynch is awful for a single reason. We have no interactions, nothing to go off regardless of what he flips.
Information in terms of general reads is always complete bull as a criteria for lynches. Just completely insignificant imo. Much more important are lynching scum and also we want people alive who contribute. This is why lynch all lurkers is a thing.
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Re: M79: Sherlock Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #972 on: June 01, 2016, 03:37:53 pm »

Talking and refelcting about that.

my top lynch eprsonally would actually #2

close followed by liopoil.


That hydra lynch is awful for a single reason. We have no interactions, nothing to go off regardless of what he flips.

If you go by that, scum can lurk day 1 and never get caught

And we might not have interactions, but we do have information based on how people are treating him.

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Re: M79: Sherlock Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #973 on: June 01, 2016, 03:38:40 pm »

Hydras is in like the bottom three people I want to lynch  :-\
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Re: M79: Sherlock Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #974 on: June 01, 2016, 03:39:14 pm »

Rather lynching Hydra than noone, but he is the best misslynch as well as bustarget, there is no info to be gained from the lynch.
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