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Re: M75: Cupcake Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1100 on: February 21, 2016, 10:21:30 pm »

Dang, sorry, busy weekend :(

I'll do some more reading and stuff tomorrow when I've got some time.

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Re: M75: Cupcake Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1101 on: February 21, 2016, 11:09:42 pm »

Reading is hard.  Anyway, vote: Lekkit

PoE case is strong with this one.
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Re: M75: Cupcake Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1102 on: February 22, 2016, 01:40:02 am »

That's L-1.
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Re: M75: Cupcake Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1103 on: February 22, 2016, 04:40:09 am »

Vote Count 3.2

The cake is a lie.

RR (1): Awaclus
Lekkit (4): SS, faust, chairs, 2.7 (L-1)
Awaclus (1): RR
Not Voting (3): Ampharos, Lekkit, WW

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Day 3 will end at 10am on the 27th of February, forum time.
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M Town Wins-Losses (6-2, 75%): 71, 72, 76, 81, 83, 87 - 79, 82.  M Scum Wins-Losses (2-1, 67%): 80, 101 - 70.
RMM Town Wins-Losses (3-1, 75%): 42, 47, 49 - 31.  RMM Scum Wins-Losses (3-3, 50%): 33, 37, 43 - 29, 32, 35.
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Re: M75: Cupcake Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1104 on: February 22, 2016, 08:10:38 am »

I can smell a flawless victory!

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Re: M75: Cupcake Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1105 on: February 22, 2016, 08:33:06 am »

I can smell a flawless victory!

Sure, we just need to lynch RR.
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Re: M75: Cupcake Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1106 on: February 22, 2016, 08:48:12 am »

I can smell a flawless victory!

I guess you're sure enough to keep me at L-1 while I do my reread for final thoughts.

Let me give you a hint. Lynching me won't make a flawless victory. Hopefully it will still give us a victory in the future.
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Re: M75: Cupcake Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1107 on: February 22, 2016, 09:07:28 am »

I can smell a flawless victory!

Sure, we just need to lynch RR.

Remind me what it was, again, that gave RR away in your eyes.

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Re: M75: Cupcake Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1108 on: February 22, 2016, 09:08:07 am »

I can smell a flawless victory!

Sure, we just need to lynch RR.

Remind me what it was, again, that gave RR away in your eyes.

The fact that he's scum.
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Re: M75: Cupcake Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1109 on: February 22, 2016, 09:13:53 am »

vote: Awaclus

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Re: M75: Cupcake Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1110 on: February 22, 2016, 09:16:22 am »

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Re: M75: Cupcake Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1111 on: February 22, 2016, 09:20:22 am »

So, here's the thing.

It's one thing to say 'because he's scum' at the question 'why do you think he's scum?' It is another thing to answer the same thing at 'what gave him away'. His alignment can't give him away, because his alignment is hidden.

Plus-- what Awaclus does here makes so much sense for scum!him. Refuse the Lekkit lynch - he'll get lynched anyway - that buys him towncred. And I don't feel so fuzzy anymore about the Lekkit thing.

I think I could lynch Awaclus instead.

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Re: M75: Cupcake Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1112 on: February 22, 2016, 09:21:19 am »

So, here's the thing.

It's one thing to say 'because he's scum' at the question 'why do you think he's scum?' It is another thing to answer the same thing at 'what gave him away'. His alignment can't give him away, because his alignment is hidden.

Plus-- what Awaclus does here makes so much sense for scum!him. Refuse the Lekkit lynch - he'll get lynched anyway - that buys him towncred. And I don't feel so fuzzy anymore about the Lekkit thing.

I think I could lynch Awaclus instead.

Awaclus is not too suspect based on his voting history.  RR, Lekkit, even Amapharos are better lynches today, I think.
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Re: M75: Cupcake Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1113 on: February 22, 2016, 09:24:17 am »

but it'll feel better!

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Re: M75: Cupcake Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1114 on: February 22, 2016, 09:24:55 am »

and Ampharos isn't good because Teproc had this town slip.

and RR's play gives me towny vibes. Too self-destructive for scum!RR.

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Re: M75: Cupcake Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1115 on: February 22, 2016, 09:27:50 am »

I'm torn on Awaclus.

I instinctually want to lynch him since he plays so scummy, but there's also the "well he can't possibly be scum playing like that" but then of course he could be because it's all WIFOM.  So then I want to lynch him because it's so confusing, but that seems like voting for someone just because of their playstyle which is lazy. 

Oh well. 

Vote: Awaclus

As for Lekkit, I wrote 18 days ago in my QT that he seems town.  I'm trusting the me of 18 days ago.
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Re: M75: Cupcake Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1116 on: February 22, 2016, 09:32:20 am »

scum!Awaclus does play horrendously anti-town. I think more so than town!Awaclus.

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Re: M75: Cupcake Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1117 on: February 22, 2016, 09:38:17 am »

and Ampharos isn't good because Teproc had this town slip.

and RR's play gives me towny vibes. Too self-destructive for scum!RR.

Self-destructive play can also be resigned!scum!RR.

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Re: M75: Cupcake Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1118 on: February 22, 2016, 09:39:43 am »

It's one thing to say 'because he's scum' at the question 'why do you think he's scum?' It is another thing to answer the same thing at 'what gave him away'. His alignment can't give him away, because his alignment is hidden.

By now, you should know that I don't share the reasoning behind my reads because I don't think it's pro-town to do so. If you don't want "because he's scum" as the answer, don't ask the question because that's the only answer you'll ever get in any game regardless of my alignment.

Plus-- what Awaclus does here makes so much sense for scum!him. Refuse the Lekkit lynch - he'll get lynched anyway - that buys him towncred. And I don't feel so fuzzy anymore about the Lekkit thing.

It's an exercise in futility to discuss what makes sense for scum!me because you know with 100% certainty that I'm town.
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Re: M75: Cupcake Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1119 on: February 22, 2016, 09:49:37 am »

and Ampharos isn't good because Teproc had this town slip.

and RR's play gives me towny vibes. Too self-destructive for scum!RR.

Self-destructive play can also be resigned!scum!RR.

is it really? I remember him giving grand speeches about his towniness as scum.

It's an exercise in futility to discuss what makes sense for scum!me because you know with 100% certainty that I'm town.

I do not.

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Re: M75: Cupcake Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #1120 on: February 22, 2016, 09:57:46 am »

ADK is certainly not going to fake claim without checking that he can't be counterclaimed.

I don't see how this is going unnoticed while Teproc (Ampharos) was apparently town for his euqally towny slip.

What makes Hydrad a better choice than Awaclus ? Or anyone else who isn't ADK for that matter, why are these options bad ?

A hydrad interaction worth mentioning.

Hm, ok

Vote: yuma

You said yourself in recent game that you was mislynched once. Now you say that you are easy to be manipulated into self destruction?

This was when yuma (e) was taking a lot of heat. This doesn't look like a bus to me.

RR jumping on the silverspawn wagon feels like town to me. I still like egork as scum, but we can lynch him later. I an not convinced about gkrieg. What is the case on him?

This paired with:

Vote: Hydrad

Followed by the Egor lynch makes me think it's so unlikely he's scum that I think you shouldn't like ever lynch him this game.

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Can anyone counterclaim anything?
Or do we not want to counterclaim, as that gives scum more info?

This is right after Hydrad's claim. Seems towny and and all.

No, I mean would we rather counterclaim or lynch Hydrad without a counterclaim?

Then this happens. I don't know if this makes him confused town or cautios scum. Had it not been for his continued suspicion of ADK, I think this would definately come across as scummy.

Not lynching:
ADK, Hydrad, 2.7

This is another weird one. This is two hours after Hydrad's claim. And he seems certain there will be no counterclaim. Maybe he was just excited? The thing is. Him pushing both the Hydrad and Egor wagons... That's some ballsy move for scum. And it makes me really think he's town. But something that should be noted, should this game go much further and he's still in it.

I have to take a break for now as I'm off work. I'm honestly a bit disappointed that it's not more that's standing out to me, but whatever. For my own reference or anyone interested: I'm at post #812.
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Re: M75: Cupcake Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1121 on: February 22, 2016, 10:02:58 am »

It's an exercise in futility to discuss what makes sense for scum!me because you know with 100% certainty that I'm town.

I do not.

You do, my alignment was confirmed by the mod here:

A rule clarification I forgot to include in the original ruleset: quoting (or fake quoting) from personal QTs is fine as long as any and all communication to or from the mods is removed. Run anything you're not sure about past the mods first.
Posting from any shared QTs is obviously forbidden.

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Re: M75: Cupcake Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1122 on: February 22, 2016, 10:04:06 am »

It's an exercise in futility to discuss what makes sense for scum!me because you know with 100% certainty that I'm town.

I do not.

You do, my alignment was confirmed by the mod here:

A rule clarification I forgot to include in the original ruleset: quoting (or fake quoting) from personal QTs is fine as long as any and all communication to or from the mods is removed. Run anything you're not sure about past the mods first.
Posting from any shared QTs is obviously forbidden.


Seriously stop it.
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Re: M75: Cupcake Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1123 on: February 22, 2016, 10:04:20 am »

In other news, I'm happy to lynch Awaclus.
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Re: M75: Cupcake Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1124 on: February 22, 2016, 10:05:50 am »

In other news, I'm happy to lynch an IC.
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