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[Haddock]

request prod on EgorK
request prod on Lekkit
request prod on chairs

Egor prodded,  but gently since he did announce vla til tonight.

The others have arrived.

[Roadrunner7671]

How does one get gently prodded?

[ashersky]

Vote Count 1.7

To gently prod is divine.

2.7 (2): Awaclus, EgorK
Awaclus (1): Ampharos
Ampharos (2): Lekkit, RR.
RR (1): WW
Hydrad (4): 2.7, faust, ADK, SS
silverspawn (2): chairs, gkrieg.
WW (1): Hydrad

Not Voting (0):

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 will end on Tuesday, February 9, at 1 pm forum time.

[Lekkit]

Reread time!

Starting with Awaclus.

I really don't want to put too much emphasis on the whole QT discussion, because I don't think discussing what's real or not outside of the game is really a good way to play. However, I do think this is a thing to at least note.

In that case I'll already point out that the only stuff I usually write in personal QTs is communication with the mods, so if it turns out that I don't have anything in there at a later time, it is not indicative of my alignment.

Since this seems to contradict the whole, "I'm still in the game, so I must be town". I guess he could've realized as time went on just how much importance he thought it had to have QTs filled with content as scum.

Either way, moving on.

Pretty early he votes for yuma for not making sense to him.

Says he likes my case on Teproc but after finding out about his "townslip" says he likes the yuma vote better.

LOTS of discussion on the QT issue.

Says he still wants to lynch e (former yuma) but could go for Hydrad as well. Cautiously townreading silverspawn.

That is... Not much actual content. I know I'm not really one to talk. But all of his stated opinions are: silverspawn is maybe town, would be willing to lynch Hydrad but likes e better.

My sentence: would be willing to lynch.

[Awaclus]

I really don't want to put too much emphasis on the whole QT discussion, because I don't think discussing what's real or not outside of the game is really a good way to play.

Well, you don't even need to take my word for the studying related stuff. Simply the fact that all humans need to sleep proves beyond any doubt that I'm town.

[faust]

I really don't want to put too much emphasis on the whole QT discussion, because I don't think discussing what's real or not outside of the game is really a good way to play.

Well, you don't even need to take my word for the studying related stuff. Simply the fact that all humans need to sleep proves beyond any doubt that I'm town.

By the same logic, everyone in this game is town. Hooray!

[Lekkit]

faust

Proposed the whole claim a PR that's not as important-plan. Which while somewhat beneficial to scum, creates an IC for town, which I think is worth more. After ADK claimed he still want to make sure that whoever can counterclaim will. Meaning he's either scum playing it well, or town that actually want to make sure the plan worked out as planned.

Ask people a lot of follow up questions to get to know what they are thinking.

Bickers with yuma.

Makes a case on yuma based on him not being as productive as faust thinks he would be if he was town.

Goes into the QT discussion with Awaclus.

Says he's willing to pressure the lurkers more.

Apart from people that are completely absent, WW and silver are the guys I have the least of a read on, so let's check out what they did so far.

Reads scummy on silverspawn and towny on WW.

So what are your other reads?

Breaks down the responses from silverspawn on the case on him. I think that the case was pretty weak to begin with, and silverspawns response is overall solid. Continues to pressure silverspawn, which I think looks more like tunneling than actual scumhunting.

Defends gkrieg saying he's not scummy.


Ah. Reads.

So where are we?

Awaclus
I officially suck at reading Awaclus I believe. I get a feeling that he's town though.

silverspawn
Still scummy. Well I've been all over this, right?

yuma --> 2.7
e has not done anything to make him seem more townie. He's apparently taking a lighthearted approach towards this game, I remember him being a lot more analytical. Could lynch.

gkrieg13
Seems very much like town. Won't lynch.

Roadrunner7671
The other guy I cannot read? I mean he's a decently good scum player, and a relatively bad town player, so lynching him would not be the worst. But that's really the only thing this lynch has going for it, and it's not enough.

A Drowned Kernel
Mostly IC.

Hydrad
Uh Hydrad. Dunno. Not townie the way he is sometimes. But he can also be town and not be like that. He's voting for Awaclus I see. Meh. Could lynch.

Lekkit
Day 1 pass because he rarely plays. Also his Teproc case seemed genuine.

Witherweaver
Gives me townie vibes. Won't lynch.

Teproc --> Ampharos
Teproc was townie, and Ampharos is his usual self... I don't think we've seen him as scum yet, so who knows? But I would prefer not to lynch.

chairs
No idea. Hopefully able to contribute more before the day ends.

EgorK
Same as above.

Things that stand out to me:

Implies that yuma was scummy and e should try to change that if he's town.

RR is a null-read, but he thinks it might be fine for town to lynch him.

Hydrad is a null-read.

I get a day 1 pass. For future reference, I don't like those. This is a game with player elimination. If I'm in it I'm aware of that.

So. Out of the 4 (?) people he didn't have a good read on, he chose to only reread two of them?

Changes his vote ty Hydrad.

Overall, he's been trying to get others to express their thoughts. Something I feel benefits town more than scum, which makes it more towny. Also is very active, so I'd rather have him around than not.

My sentence: Would not lynch.

[Awaclus]

By the same logic, everyone in this game is town. Hooray!

Some people don't spend as much time thinking hard about the exact wording of their posts in an effort to make them as short as possible as I do.

[Lekkit]

silverspawn

Early stuff is mostly about the QT-thing and some fluffy banter.

Votes for ADK but quickly changes it to Hydrad. I can see both town and scum making this mistake. But if silverspawn flips scum before Hydrad is lynched I think this is likely to give Hydrad some town points, since I'm guessing he'd vote for a random townie.

Changes his vote to RR for tunneling faust.

Changes back to Hydrad.

Switches to yuma without any real reasoning. Earlier he said he thought yuma's emotional reactions were towny.

Says Teproc is town because of his townslip and my case. I guess it has to do with him thinking I'm scum, so a case on someone must mean they're town? Also switches back to RR.

Says he still perfers to lynch RR or Hydrad. RR because he's anti-town and stubborn. Hydrad because he's non-present. Which I assume means either because he's lurking or not contributing. There were a bunch of other people at the time that were not really present. So I don't see why Hydrad should be singled out.

Joins the Grkrieg wagon from the rock solid case from Ampharos: "Gkrieg is scum".

Clarifies that the vote was because of an earlier post from Gkrieg that was just a vote on silverspawn.

Switches back to RR due to a post from Gkrieg that he didn't like.

Explains that he didn't like the post because he thought the points made were projecting  Gkrieg's scum plays on silverspawn. A fair point.

Revotes RR. Takes an entire post.

Refers to the RR- and Hydrad lynch as go-to lynches for the day.

Switches back to Hydrad. The Hillary of the two.

After rereading. I guess I'm not so opposed to the lynch after all.

My sentence: Would lynch.

[silverspawn]

heh. that reread sounds so much like town!me, you would convince me if I didn't already know.

[faust]

heh. that reread sounds so much like town!me, you would convince me if I didn't already know.

Why did I even stop? Vote: silverspawn

[silverspawn]

heh. that reread sounds so much like town!me, you would convince me if I didn't already know.

Why did I even stop? Vote: silverspawn

It's either because you realized that it wasn't a good option, or, if you're scum, because you concluded that a different mislynch was more worth pursuing.

[silverspawn]

I have trouble seeing scum!you switch from scum to town here, though. That just makes you look super bad once gkrieg gets lynched.

Can't we do sanders RR after all? For a better america lynch!

vote: RR

[silverspawn]

I post dozens of times in my QT, even as a VT.

But that is 100% confidential until the end of the game and I'm never ever sharing from my QT. Cause that's dumb. And you know me, I never do anything dumb.

you know what?

RR needs to share his QT, now. That's so much evidence and you want me to believe that he just blatantly refuses to use it? It can't get much more anti town than that.

[silverspawn]

yeah, forget the gkrieg lynch. We need to make RR share his QT or otherwise lynch him.

[silverspawn]

Hi everyone.

Also you can't get a more scummy OP

[Awaclus]

I have trouble seeing scum!you switch from scum to town here, though. That just makes you look super bad once gkrieg gets lynched.

If you're convinced enough that faust is scum that you'd give a town read on the person you're currently voting for (who, btw, was not gkrieg, it was Hydrad) based on the fact that faust unvoted him, why do you want to lynch RR over faust?

[Awaclus]

Although I do agree with RR sharing his QT.

[silverspawn]

Oh, he's voting for me? Vote: SS

note that this put me on L-3! it's an L-3 disguised as an OMGUS vote.

[faust]

fake fake fake

[silverspawn]

I have trouble seeing scum!you switch from scum to town here, though. That just makes you look super bad once gkrieg gets lynched.

If you're convinced enough that faust is scum that you'd give a town read on the person you're currently voting for (who, btw, was not gkrieg, it was Hydrad) based on the fact that faust unvoted him, why do you want to lynch RR over faust?

I don't need to be convinced to make this argument. If I quarter the town cred I would give gkrieg if faust was scum, there's still enough of it left to make gkrieg meh.

[silverspawn]

fake fake fake

tunnel tunnel tunnel

[silverspawn]

Okay faust. Explain to me how it's not pro town for RR to share his QT. I'm curious.

[faust]

Okay faust. Explain to me how it's not pro town for RR to share his QT. I'm curious.

I'm not saying it's not. But noone should be required to share this information, that's just rude. If you say you have been posting less because you were sick, I don't require you to post a scan of your medical prescription even though it may be pro-town.

Luckily, you pretty much laid out your strategy to get a mislynch in here:

Here is why that will get you lynched

[...]

- Refuse - will get you lynched
- Claim you happen to not have posted anything in your QT this game - will probably get you lynched, because players will know it's probably a lie

[faust]

And together with this:

I'm doing this anyway, regardless of rules.

You're doing what?

If I ever mod a game I'm implementing this rule, and I already refuse to quote from a QT.

your mislynch agenda gets pretty clear.