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[Tables]

I haven't really been in the main Dominion discussion part of the board much these last few days but it looks like there's been some kind of drama going on? A ton of locked posts and threads reaching 5+ pages in a day or two. What's happening, in short?

[Witherweaver]

I haven't really been in the main Dominion discussion part of the board much these last few days but it looks like there's been some kind of drama going on? A ton of locked posts and threads reaching 5+ pages in a day or two. What's happening, in short?

People were quoting from ongoing Mafia games. 

[Kirian]

I haven't really been in the main Dominion discussion part of the board much these last few days but it looks like there's been some kind of drama going on? A ton of locked posts and threads reaching 5+ pages in a day or two. What's happening, in short?

In short:  Drama, and you don't want to know more.

[Roadrunner7671]

I haven't really been in the main Dominion discussion part of the board much these last few days but it looks like there's been some kind of drama going on? A ton of locked posts and threads reaching 5+ pages in a day or two. What's happening, in short?

A tangled web was weaved, but I will explain it as well as I possibly can. Keep in mind that I am quite the biased/influential individual.

In short, AdamH was frustrated because league moderators didn't want him to commentate the match, and apparently the personally insulted him by PM (this has not been confirmed and probably never will be). A lot of people sided with people other than Adam, which obviously made him more frustrated.

WanderingWinder then left the forum.
Then Schadd made his funny post about how there was nothing going on between him and assemble_me.
Then J Reggie made a nice, feel good post about how the forum was so great.
J Reggie's post was the only one that wasn't locked. 

[2.71828.....]

I liked Kirian's explanation much better than RR's.

[Tables]

I liked Kirian's explanation much better than RR's.

I feel a lot more informed by Roadrunners, but Kirians seems like the better Respect whoring option, and IIRC that's the point of the Dominionstrategy forums anyway.

[silverspawn]

I really wish people would not do that kind of thing. It's so rude.

[Roadrunner7671]

I liked Kirian's explanation much better than RR's.

Me, too.

[Kirian]

I liked Kirian's explanation much better than RR's.

I feel a lot more informed by Roadrunners, but Kirians seems like the better Respect whoring option, and IIRC that's the point of the Dominionstrategy forums anyway.

It truly wasn't intended as respect-whoring, just not wanting the Random Stuff thread to get infected.  Not to mention the standard "If it's locked, stop talking about it elsewhere" forum etiquette.

[Awaclus]

It truly wasn't intended as respect-whoring, just not wanting the Random Stuff thread to get infected.  Not to mention the standard "If it's locked, stop talking about it elsewhere" forum etiquette.

I don't think it's necessary to stop talking about locked threads elsewhere, as long as you don't start the same conversations again. We're talking about decline of civility, Gunpowder and KC being more skippable than people think all the time (or maybe around 90-93% of the time) and it never causes any problems.

[Roadrunner7671]

It truly wasn't intended as respect-whoring, just not wanting the Random Stuff thread to get infected.  Not to mention the standard "If it's locked, stop talking about it elsewhere" forum etiquette.

I don't think it's necessary to stop talking about locked threads elsewhere, as long as you don't start the same conversations again. We're talking about decline of civility, Gunpowder and KC being more skippable than people think all the time (or maybe around 90-93% of the time) and it never causes any problems.

It never causes any problems because anyone who would disagree with you on those topics has been banned.

[silverspawn]

Why be so afraid of having a discussion? It is the rudeness in discussions that's causing the problems, not the discussion itself - to me, I'd say discussing something is almost always better than not discussing it, just as a general life lesson.

[Awaclus]

It truly wasn't intended as respect-whoring, just not wanting the Random Stuff thread to get infected.  Not to mention the standard "If it's locked, stop talking about it elsewhere" forum etiquette.

I don't think it's necessary to stop talking about locked threads elsewhere, as long as you don't start the same conversations again. We're talking about decline of civility, Gunpowder and KC being more skippable than people think all the time (or maybe around 90-93% of the time) and it never causes any problems.

It never causes any problems because anyone who would disagree with you on those topics has been banned.

I don't think anyone was banned due to decline of civility on Isotropic.

[silverspawn]

That's why I was commenting on the popcorn post. I think that's the worst thing that you can possibly do in threads with high stake discussions, regardless of what they're about or who is right. All it does is showcase apathy towards other people's feelings, and I think encouraging it via upvotes is a massive mistake. Wouldn't this be a discussion worth having?

[Roadrunner7671]

That's why I was commenting on the popcorn post. I think that's the worst thing that you can possibly do in threads with high stake discussions, regardless of what they're about or who is right. All it does is showcase apathy towards other people's feelings, and I think encouraging it via upvotes is a massive mistake. Wouldn't this be a discussion worth having?

I fully agree with this. I would've hoped something like that wouldn't have been posted, I consider everyone on this forum quite mature (except RR, that guy is something else). I think posts like those contribute to the lockage of threads, which is obviously something we don't want, because threads are strictly better than non-threads.

[Awaclus]

That's why I was commenting on the popcorn post. I think that's the worst thing that you can possibly do in threads with high stake discussions, regardless of what they're about or who is right. All it does is showcase apathy towards other people's feelings, and I think encouraging it via upvotes is a massive mistake. Wouldn't this be a discussion worth having?

You don't have to overthink it, it's just a popcorn post.

[silverspawn]

You don't have to overthink it, it's just a popcorn post.

I'm arguing that it hurts feelings of the people who are having the stakes in the discussion.

Maybe that's only the case for me, because I'm sensitive, but I don't think so. Neither Adam nor Stef upvoted any of the off topic posts.

And it's not like not doing it is a big loss, there is an entire rest of the forum to post jokes in.

I just... you know, I think most people, when they're upset about something, don't really want to see others having fun with that.

[iguanaiguana]

I agree with silver, but it's also really hard for me not to poke fun, which is why I've been writing and then immediately deleting a lot of posts lately.

[qmech]

Woah, guys, we're veering off topic again, and I'm all out of pie charts.

[Teproc]

I just... you know, I think most people, when they're upset about something, don't really want to see others having fun with that.

There is indeed nothing worse than that in those situations. Vaguely tolerable on the Internet, but I don't think anything gets me more worked up IRL.

[Kirian]

Woah, guys, we're veering off topic again, and I'm all out of pie charts.

Here, have an emergency Venn diagram:

[pacovf]

I just... you know, I think most people, when they're upset about something, don't really want to see others having fun with that.

There is indeed nothing worse than that in those situations. Vaguely tolerable on the Internet, but I don't think anything gets me more worked up IRL.

I have done something like that in the past more than once. I don't enjoy the least bit to see smart people sling mud at each other. I do it to draw attention to the fact that they are offering a spectacle to onlookers, and to make them question whether that's what they really want to do (instead of calming down, trying to see the other's person perspective, or reaching a compromise, etc.).

Obviously it only works when it's clear you are being ironic, which is harder online...

[Witherweaver]

I'm pretty sure my answer is correct.  People talked about ongoing games then the threads got locked. Explain that, Obama.

[Limetime]

Woah, guys, we're veering off topic again, and I'm all out of pie charts.

How can we get off topic if we're talking about random stuff?

[Witherweaver]

You don't have to overthink it, it's just a popcorn post.

I'm arguing that it hurts feelings of the people who are having the stakes in the discussion.

Maybe that's only the case for me, because I'm sensitive, but I don't think so. Neither Adam nor Stef upvoted any of the off topic posts.

And it's not like not doing it is a big loss, there is an entire rest of the forum to post jokes in.

I just... you know, I think most people, when they're upset about something, don't really want to see others having fun with that.

Actually I like to think stuff like that breaks the tension when there is an argument/disagreement.  That's usually why I do it.