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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #275 on: February 17, 2016, 06:31:24 pm »
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I haven't really been in the main Dominion discussion part of the board much these last few days but it looks like there's been some kind of drama going on? A ton of locked posts and threads reaching 5+ pages in a day or two. What's happening, in short?
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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #276 on: February 17, 2016, 06:36:12 pm »
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I haven't really been in the main Dominion discussion part of the board much these last few days but it looks like there's been some kind of drama going on? A ton of locked posts and threads reaching 5+ pages in a day or two. What's happening, in short?

People were quoting from ongoing Mafia games. 
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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #277 on: February 17, 2016, 06:37:34 pm »
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I haven't really been in the main Dominion discussion part of the board much these last few days but it looks like there's been some kind of drama going on? A ton of locked posts and threads reaching 5+ pages in a day or two. What's happening, in short?

In short:  Drama, and you don't want to know more.
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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #278 on: February 17, 2016, 06:50:00 pm »
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I haven't really been in the main Dominion discussion part of the board much these last few days but it looks like there's been some kind of drama going on? A ton of locked posts and threads reaching 5+ pages in a day or two. What's happening, in short?
A tangled web was weaved, but I will explain it as well as I possibly can. Keep in mind that I am quite the biased/influential individual.

In short, AdamH was frustrated because league moderators didn't want him to commentate the match, and apparently the personally insulted him by PM (this has not been confirmed and probably never will be). A lot of people sided with people other than Adam, which obviously made him more frustrated.

WanderingWinder then left the forum.
Then Schadd made his funny post about how there was nothing going on between him and assemble_me.
Then J Reggie made a nice, feel good post about how the forum was so great.
J Reggie's post was the only one that wasn't locked. 
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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #279 on: February 17, 2016, 07:02:41 pm »
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I liked Kirian's explanation much better than RR's.
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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #280 on: February 17, 2016, 07:24:44 pm »
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I liked Kirian's explanation much better than RR's.

I feel a lot more informed by Roadrunners, but Kirians seems like the better Respect whoring option, and IIRC that's the point of the Dominionstrategy forums anyway.
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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #281 on: February 17, 2016, 07:29:27 pm »
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I really wish people would not do that kind of thing. It's so rude.

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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #282 on: February 17, 2016, 07:31:36 pm »
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I liked Kirian's explanation much better than RR's.
Me, too.
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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #283 on: February 17, 2016, 07:40:00 pm »
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I liked Kirian's explanation much better than RR's.

I feel a lot more informed by Roadrunners, but Kirians seems like the better Respect whoring option, and IIRC that's the point of the Dominionstrategy forums anyway.

It truly wasn't intended as respect-whoring, just not wanting the Random Stuff thread to get infected.  Not to mention the standard "If it's locked, stop talking about it elsewhere" forum etiquette.
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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #284 on: February 17, 2016, 08:01:45 pm »
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It truly wasn't intended as respect-whoring, just not wanting the Random Stuff thread to get infected.  Not to mention the standard "If it's locked, stop talking about it elsewhere" forum etiquette.

I don't think it's necessary to stop talking about locked threads elsewhere, as long as you don't start the same conversations again. We're talking about decline of civility, Gunpowder and KC being more skippable than people think all the time (or maybe around 90-93% of the time) and it never causes any problems.
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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #285 on: February 17, 2016, 08:05:08 pm »
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It truly wasn't intended as respect-whoring, just not wanting the Random Stuff thread to get infected.  Not to mention the standard "If it's locked, stop talking about it elsewhere" forum etiquette.

I don't think it's necessary to stop talking about locked threads elsewhere, as long as you don't start the same conversations again. We're talking about decline of civility, Gunpowder and KC being more skippable than people think all the time (or maybe around 90-93% of the time) and it never causes any problems.
It never causes any problems because anyone who would disagree with you on those topics has been banned.
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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #286 on: February 17, 2016, 08:06:30 pm »
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Why be so afraid of having a discussion? It is the rudeness in discussions that's causing the problems, not the discussion itself - to me, I'd say discussing something is almost always better than not discussing it, just as a general life lesson.

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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #287 on: February 17, 2016, 08:07:40 pm »
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It truly wasn't intended as respect-whoring, just not wanting the Random Stuff thread to get infected.  Not to mention the standard "If it's locked, stop talking about it elsewhere" forum etiquette.

I don't think it's necessary to stop talking about locked threads elsewhere, as long as you don't start the same conversations again. We're talking about decline of civility, Gunpowder and KC being more skippable than people think all the time (or maybe around 90-93% of the time) and it never causes any problems.
It never causes any problems because anyone who would disagree with you on those topics has been banned.

I don't think anyone was banned due to decline of civility on Isotropic.
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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #288 on: February 17, 2016, 08:11:51 pm »
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That's why I was commenting on the popcorn post. I think that's the worst thing that you can possibly do in threads with high stake discussions, regardless of what they're about or who is right. All it does is showcase apathy towards other people's feelings, and I think encouraging it via upvotes is a massive mistake. Wouldn't this be a discussion worth having?

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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #289 on: February 17, 2016, 08:14:54 pm »
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That's why I was commenting on the popcorn post. I think that's the worst thing that you can possibly do in threads with high stake discussions, regardless of what they're about or who is right. All it does is showcase apathy towards other people's feelings, and I think encouraging it via upvotes is a massive mistake. Wouldn't this be a discussion worth having?
I fully agree with this. I would've hoped something like that wouldn't have been posted, I consider everyone on this forum quite mature (except RR, that guy is something else). I think posts like those contribute to the lockage of threads, which is obviously something we don't want, because threads are strictly better than non-threads.
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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #290 on: February 17, 2016, 08:21:02 pm »
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That's why I was commenting on the popcorn post. I think that's the worst thing that you can possibly do in threads with high stake discussions, regardless of what they're about or who is right. All it does is showcase apathy towards other people's feelings, and I think encouraging it via upvotes is a massive mistake. Wouldn't this be a discussion worth having?

You don't have to overthink it, it's just a popcorn post.
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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #291 on: February 17, 2016, 08:33:43 pm »
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You don't have to overthink it, it's just a popcorn post.

I'm arguing that it hurts feelings of the people who are having the stakes in the discussion.

Maybe that's only the case for me, because I'm sensitive, but I don't think so. Neither Adam nor Stef upvoted any of the off topic posts.

And it's not like not doing it is a big loss, there is an entire rest of the forum to post jokes in.

I just... you know, I think most people, when they're upset about something, don't really want to see others having fun with that.

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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #292 on: February 17, 2016, 08:37:36 pm »
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I agree with silver, but it's also really hard for me not to poke fun, which is why I've been writing and then immediately deleting a lot of posts lately.
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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #293 on: February 17, 2016, 08:49:39 pm »
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Woah, guys, we're veering off topic again, and I'm all out of pie charts.

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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #294 on: February 17, 2016, 09:00:03 pm »
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I just... you know, I think most people, when they're upset about something, don't really want to see others having fun with that.

There is indeed nothing worse than that in those situations. Vaguely tolerable on the Internet, but I don't think anything gets me more worked up IRL.
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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #295 on: February 17, 2016, 09:16:10 pm »
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Woah, guys, we're veering off topic again, and I'm all out of pie charts.

Here, have an emergency Venn diagram:

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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #296 on: February 17, 2016, 09:24:27 pm »
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I just... you know, I think most people, when they're upset about something, don't really want to see others having fun with that.

There is indeed nothing worse than that in those situations. Vaguely tolerable on the Internet, but I don't think anything gets me more worked up IRL.

I have done something like that in the past more than once. I don't enjoy the least bit to see smart people sling mud at each other. I do it to draw attention to the fact that they are offering a spectacle to onlookers, and to make them question whether that's what they really want to do (instead of calming down, trying to see the other's person perspective, or reaching a compromise, etc.).

Obviously it only works when it's clear you are being ironic, which is harder online...
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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #297 on: February 17, 2016, 09:28:51 pm »
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I'm pretty sure my answer is correct.  People talked about ongoing games then the threads got locked. Explain that, Obama.
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Re: Random Stuff Part III
« Reply #298 on: February 17, 2016, 09:31:48 pm »
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Woah, guys, we're veering off topic again, and I'm all out of pie charts.


How can we get off topic if we're talking about random stuff?
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« Reply #299 on: February 17, 2016, 09:34:48 pm »
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You don't have to overthink it, it's just a popcorn post.

I'm arguing that it hurts feelings of the people who are having the stakes in the discussion.

Maybe that's only the case for me, because I'm sensitive, but I don't think so. Neither Adam nor Stef upvoted any of the off topic posts.

And it's not like not doing it is a big loss, there is an entire rest of the forum to post jokes in.

I just... you know, I think most people, when they're upset about something, don't really want to see others having fun with that.

Actually I like to think stuff like that breaks the tension when there is an argument/disagreement.  That's usually why I do it.
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