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[pingpongsam]

Jimmmmm says he has two roles and my result says one of those is not Town. I'm currently seeking clarification what my result should be if someone is Survivor.
Still feeling good about my vote on WW.

[Jimmmmm]

vote: Witherweaver

I got a guilty result on him last night. Also he neighbored me N1 and I got a bad feeling about him then because he was very guarded despite me revealing quite a bit of my role including who I targeted N1 for investigation.

Why is being guarded suspicious?

While you are on would you like to explain why I got both guilty and not guilty results on you N1?

Clearly I have two roles.

How can you get two results on one person in any Night, let alone Night 1?

 I thought I asked you for the explanation, here... I am telling you on N1 when I investigated you I got a result of Guilty and Not Guilty.

I have no explanation.

(Saying I have two roles was a joke.)

[faust]

Does anyone else think they can explain the lack of a nightkill? If no one else can, I may be able to and I would also have a reasonable lynch target for us.

Well, ash was a delayed JK, so that's an explanation right there.

[iguanaiguana]

Does anyone else think they can explain the lack of a nightkill? If no one else can, I may be able to and I would also have a reasonable lynch target for us.

Well, ash was a delayed JK, so that's an explanation right there.

I agree, but it sounds like Ash targeted either you or EgorK

[pingpongsam]

yuma tells me it's beyond his scope to inform me what a result on a Survivor would look like. He cited some rules specific to this which I cannot disagree with at all.

Looking into the Survivor role, I personally don't see it being a terribly anti-town thing to have around. I don't know how prudent it is to fish for Jimmmmm's role. I feel like I am at least within reason to inquire how I got such a screwy result on him. His denial of having multiple roles and generally acting as if I might be anything less than honest and straightforward about it is what makes me feel uneasy.

For now, I consider Jimmmmm the most significant threat outside of WW who I have every reason to believe is actually scum.

[pingpongsam]

Does anyone else think they can explain the lack of a nightkill? If no one else can, I may be able to and I would also have a reasonable lynch target for us.

Well, ash was a delayed JK, so that's an explanation right there.

I agree, but it sounds like Ash targeted either you or EgorK

By extension you are saying scum also targeted either faust or egorK, right?

[iguanaiguana]

yuma tells me it's beyond his scope to inform me what a result on a Survivor would look like. He cited some rules specific to this which I cannot disagree with at all.

Looking into the Survivor role, I personally don't see it being a terribly anti-town thing to have around. I don't know how prudent it is to fish for Jimmmmm's role. I feel like I am at least within reason to inquire how I got such a screwy result on him. His denial of having multiple roles and generally acting as if I might be anything less than honest and straightforward about it is what makes me feel uneasy.

For now, I consider Jimmmmm the most significant threat outside of WW who I have every reason to believe is actually scum.

I want to bekieve you, but to be honest your claims this game have been a bit of a mess. At first you thought your role was a posting restriction....

Can you claim? I think it would help everyone make sense of your results.

[iguanaiguana]

Does anyone else think they can explain the lack of a nightkill? If no one else can, I may be able to and I would also have a reasonable lynch target for us.

Well, ash was a delayed JK, so that's an explanation right there.

I agree, but it sounds like Ash targeted either you or EgorK

By extension you are saying scum also targeted either faust or egorK, right?

Oh, that makes sense actually. I was thinking that it would mean Faust/Egor are scum and got roleblocked, but what you are saying is more likely.

[pingpongsam]

yuma tells me it's beyond his scope to inform me what a result on a Survivor would look like. He cited some rules specific to this which I cannot disagree with at all.

Looking into the Survivor role, I personally don't see it being a terribly anti-town thing to have around. I don't know how prudent it is to fish for Jimmmmm's role. I feel like I am at least within reason to inquire how I got such a screwy result on him. His denial of having multiple roles and generally acting as if I might be anything less than honest and straightforward about it is what makes me feel uneasy.

For now, I consider Jimmmmm the most significant threat outside of WW who I have every reason to believe is actually scum.

I want to bekieve you, but to be honest your claims this game have been a bit of a mess. At first you thought your role was a posting restriction....

Can you claim? I think it would help everyone make sense of your results.

I will say that I am a cop. My results are straight up alignment tells. I have another role that is not quite so awesome and I have modifiers on both of those roles but I have no interest in explaining what they are because scum could easily exploit them.

[pingpongsam]

If anyone is some sort of watcher role that can see who targeted someone at night (which it sounds like is a likely thing in this setup) it would be super if someone saw someone else target faust or egorK, is what I am thinking.

[pingpongsam]

yuma tells me it's beyond his scope to inform me what a result on a Survivor would look like. He cited some rules specific to this which I cannot disagree with at all.

Looking into the Survivor role, I personally don't see it being a terribly anti-town thing to have around. I don't know how prudent it is to fish for Jimmmmm's role. I feel like I am at least within reason to inquire how I got such a screwy result on him. His denial of having multiple roles and generally acting as if I might be anything less than honest and straightforward about it is what makes me feel uneasy.

For now, I consider Jimmmmm the most significant threat outside of WW who I have every reason to believe is actually scum.

I want to bekieve you, but to be honest your claims this game have been a bit of a mess. At first you thought your role was a posting restriction....

Can you claim? I think it would help everyone make sense of your results.

I will say that I am a cop. My results are straight up alignment tells. I have another role that is not quite so awesome and I have modifiers on both of those roles but I have no interest in explaining what they are because scum could easily exploit them.

Also, I expect to die tonight.

[Witherweaver]

Vote: Roadrunner

Faust, do you have any idea what Ash was up to?

[Witherweaver]

Okay wait.. we had no kills tonight, and Ash was a delayed Jailkeep.  He may have bee signaling who he Jailkept Night 1.

[Witherweaver]

Vote Count 1.11

Hydrad (2): 2.7, Egork
SS (4): ashersky, WW, gkreig, Hydrad
gkrieg (8): Ampharos, faust, iguanaiguana, silverspawn, Jimmmmm, PPS, RR, Xerxes

Not Voting (0):

Vote Count 2.4

faust: (1) ashersky
ashersky: (5) EgorK, iguanaiguana, Xerxes, Ampharos, faust (L-1)


Not Voting (5): WW, Hydrad, Jimmmmm, RR, PPS

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

Day1 will end Friday, November 13 at 4:30 pm forum time

I assume I'll be lynched.  My last post was ill-timed.

For what it may be worth, my top scum reads: XP, EgorK, Hydrad, Ampharos, in that order.
My top town reads: WW, Faust, Jimmmmm, PPS, in that order.

I'm town, although my usefulness seems to come a bit late.

Okay, if it was scum XP, if it was town me.  Well evidence against me was not what I wanted from this. 

Would Ash JK town or scum?

[faust]

I will say that I am a cop. My results are straight up alignment tells. I have another role that is not quite so awesome and I have modifiers on both of those roles but I have no interest in explaining what they are because scum could easily exploit them.

So you have two roles and two modifiers?

[faust]

Vote: Roadrunner

Faust, do you have any idea what Ash was up to?

Not a clue. Well, I can think of stuff, but it's all pretty meh. I see no reaosn for him to act the way he did.

[faust]

Okay wait.. we had no kills tonight, and Ash was a delayed Jailkeep.  He may have bee signaling who he Jailkept Night 1.

Only that's actually a horrible idea because scum gets much more of an advantage out of this information than town does.

[Witherweaver]

Okay wait.. we had no kills tonight, and Ash was a delayed Jailkeep.  He may have bee signaling who he Jailkept Night 1.

Only that's actually a horrible idea because scum gets much more of an advantage out of this information than town does.

Well I guess there's some WIFOM in there.  But when he posted his last message, he seemed 100% convinced he was getting lynched.

[pingpongsam]

Okay wait.. we had no kills tonight, and Ash was a delayed Jailkeep.  He may have bee signaling who he Jailkept Night 1.

Only that's actually a horrible idea because scum gets much more of an advantage out of this information than town does.

I thought it was fairly clear that saying faust was his top town read was a tell that he delay JK'd faust.

[faust]

Okay wait.. we had no kills tonight, and Ash was a delayed Jailkeep.  He may have bee signaling who he Jailkept Night 1.

Only that's actually a horrible idea because scum gets much more of an advantage out of this information than town does.

I thought it was fairly clear that saying faust was his top town read was a tell that he delay JK'd faust.

And I think that is bad play and ash would not do it. I cannot confirm that I was not jaikept though.

[iguanaiguana]

He said WW was his top town read. Faust came in second.

[pingpongsam]

I will say that I am a cop. My results are straight up alignment tells. I have another role that is not quite so awesome and I have modifiers on both of those roles but I have no interest in explaining what they are because scum could easily exploit them.

So you have two roles and two modifiers?

Yes. I have two roles and each has a modifier attached to it. Revealing either modifier makes either role exploitable. I see no good reason to claim the other role at this time. I will say I have not exercised the other role power because the modifier to it has prevented me from doing so up to this point.

[iguanaiguana]

I am still on board with possibly lynching WW. However, before that I'd like to hear from Hydrad. I have night info that leads me to suspect he may be scum.

Vote: hydrad

[pingpongsam]

Yes. I have two roles...

This is a leading reason why I think Jimmmmm may be lying about not having 2 roles.

[pingpongsam]

Yes. I have two roles...

This is a leading reason why I think Jimmmmm may be lying about not having 2 roles.

And why I suspect WW of being more than a neighborizer.