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[yuma]

Protip: gkrieg can use his flavor name to encode the name of his partner. Like this:

"If my flavor name starts with an A, faust is my partner.
If my flavor name starts with a B, PPS is my partner
..."

this is the second really obvious breadcrumb/softclaim between you and PPS. I have no qualms about pointing it out because if I am noticing it, multiple people are noticing it and someone in that group is bound to be mafia...

And if you are claiming what you are claiming then either 1. you are lying 2. gkeirg is lying 3. there is a mason trio 4. there are two mason groups (both of which are extremely unlikely)

MMMMM = 3 Masons
MMMMMM = 2 Masons; 2 Masons (i.e. two separate pairings)

of course there could be a 5. in which this isn't a softclaim (nor was what you did before) but then I have to ask why you are doing this...

[Witherweaver]

Let's celebrate Yuma's news by lynching someone.

I nominate whomever it is I'm voting for.

[Witherweaver]

Reads:

Town: Gkrieg, PPS, Ash

Unsure: Jimm, Umbrage,

Not really sure but slight scum feeling: Faust, Yuma

Scum: Hydrad,

Not sure who else is in this game. 

[Awaclus]

Reads:

Town: Gkrieg, PPS, Ash

Unsure: Jimm, Umbrage,

Not really sure but slight scum feeling: Faust, Yuma

Scum: Hydrad,

Not sure who else is in this game.

You forgot to add me onto your town reads list.

[Witherweaver]

Oh, yeah, Awaclus is always a great lynch choice.

[chairs]

I'm not on your radar?

[yuma]

Let's celebrate Yuma's news by lynching someone.

I nominate whomever it is I'm voting for.

weird way to celebrate, but I guess I am down!!!

vote: hydrad

[pingpongsam]

Protip: gkrieg can use his flavor name to encode the name of his partner. Like this:

"If my flavor name starts with an A, faust is my partner.
If my flavor name starts with a B, PPS is my partner
..."

this is the second really obvious breadcrumb/softclaim between you and PPS. I have no qualms about pointing it out because if I am noticing it, multiple people are noticing it and someone in that group is bound to be mafia...

And if you are claiming what you are claiming then either 1. you are lying 2. gkeirg is lying 3. there is a mason trio 4. there are two mason groups (both of which are extremely unlikely)

MMMMM = 3 Masons
MMMMMM = 2 Masons; 2 Masons (i.e. two separate pairings)

of course there could be a 5. in which this isn't a softclaim (nor was what you did before) but then I have to ask why you are doing this...

I agree, I have noticed, although I thought it would be a bit more obvious to me since my name keeps popping up. I will clarify somewhat and say straight up I am not a mason.

[yuma]

Interesting. What do you make of it?

Or should we wait to hear an explanation from faust before giving opinions?

[chairs]

I want to hear from faust, myself.

[chairs]

On a completely unrelated topic, it's good to have you back because at least now someone other than me can reference my vig onslaught in Dynasty Warriors Mafia 

It's my counterargument to the accepted logic that vigs are negative utility.

[yuma]

It's my counterargument to the accepted logic that vigs are negative utility.

well.....

given that the majority of my own personal vig shots have hit town (except for that one great time I hit WW) I am generally on the other side of the spectrum (well honestly, more in the middle as I see vigs as a great weapon in the right hands, but it rarely falls into the right hands), despite your awesome onslaught in that game (which was awesome), so I am not sure if you will get much feedback from me.

in the end I feel that the vigs themselves should decide if vigs should shoot or not

[Hydrad]

I always shoot if I'm a vig. I think I have yet to hit scum

[Hydrad]

Reads:

Town: Gkrieg, PPS, Ash

Unsure: Jimm, Umbrage,

Not really sure but slight scum feeling: Faust, Yuma

Scum: Hydrad,

Not sure who else is in this game.

also why me?

I guess its fine that you've seen me as scummy. Are there specific reasons or just kinda a feeling?

you may have already stated the reasons somewhere but somehow I've forgetten if thats the case sorry.

[faust]

Interesting. What do you make of it?

Or should we wait to hear an explanation from faust before giving opinions?

I did not intend to softclaim anything, but I can see that my posts could be read that way.

[faust]

It's my counterargument to the accepted logic that vigs are negative utility.

well.....

given that the majority of my own personal vig shots have hit town (except for that one great time I hit WW) I am generally on the other side of the spectrum (well honestly, more in the middle as I see vigs as a great weapon in the right hands, but it rarely falls into the right hands), despite your awesome onslaught in that game (which was awesome), so I am not sure if you will get much feedback from me.

in the end I feel that the vigs themselves should decide if vigs should shoot or not

Lynches also hit town more often than they hit scum, yet we continue to lynch. The world is strange.

[yuma]

Interesting. What do you make of it?

Or should we wait to hear an explanation from faust before giving opinions?

I did not intend to softclaim anything, but I can see that my posts could be read that way.

Why were you so adamant that you not lynch PPS earlier? you didnt' answer that question when I asked it before:

Didn't you listen? No lynching PPS today.

Also, what was this then? Cause I thought you were just being super obvious about you two being masons, but at same time thought you were being too obvious if you were trying to not just come out and say it...

[yuma]

It's my counterargument to the accepted logic that vigs are negative utility.

well.....

given that the majority of my own personal vig shots have hit town (except for that one great time I hit WW) I am generally on the other side of the spectrum (well honestly, more in the middle as I see vigs as a great weapon in the right hands, but it rarely falls into the right hands), despite your awesome onslaught in that game (which was awesome), so I am not sure if you will get much feedback from me.

in the end I feel that the vigs themselves should decide if vigs should shoot or not

Lynches also hit town more often than they hit scum, yet we continue to lynch. The world is strange.

Well that isn't really fair to lynches. Because lynches are one of the best tools that a town has to infer concrete stances on how people caused, responded and reacted to a confirmed flip of another player (which is consistently full of interactions with said player because if they are getting lynched are a focal point of the conversation) from which town can hopefully attempt to deduce who the mafia actually are. It is also made in a group setting (which can be bad, but is generally good as it provides more points of view)

Whereas a vig (at least in general a night vig who hasn't claimed) makes the decision alone and the choice doesnt' reflect back on the vig's alignment because he is already town.

but this is derailing to a theory discussion, so I will leave it there...

[gkrieg13]

Just some thoughts.

TA seems a lot quieter than the first time I played with him, where he was scum, so I get a town read on him.

Jimmmm seems lurky so it is hard to get a good read on him.

Yuma seems very active.  I feel like he would know that active people are usually read as town so it's a null tell on him.

Hydrad seems a little scummy to me. 

PPS seems scummy to me as well but people are saying that he is always like this so null.

WW seems as hard to read as ever. 

faust seems towny but he seemed towny in college town where I knew he was scum.  The accidental breadcrumbing with PPS might mean their partners? 

Ash seems very towny to me.

Chairs is pretty null right now.

Everyone else hasn't been active enough for me to get any kind of a read on.  Although I have been in and out a lot so I tend to forget.

[gkrieg13]

Oh I missed UoS and Awaclus.

UoS is usually super active.  Slight scum on him for not really doing anything so far.  That seems SUPER unlike him.  As I think about it, my scum read on him gets stronger.

vote: UoS

Awaclus seems like Awaclus to me.  Very null and hard to read.

[chairs]

vote: UoS.

I hadn't noticed it, but yeah, that's incredibly unusual.

[pingpongsam]

Never played with Umbrage or krieg. Hard to read them. Still fine with my past reads and my current vote.

[yuma]

Never played with Umbrage or krieg. Hard to read them. Still fine with my past reads and my current vote.

Well one is a mason, so kinda an ic... The other said he had computer problems so I  giving him the benifit of the doubt until then...

[Hydrad]

Ya I doubt UoS is purposely lurking. That just doesn't sound like him at all.

[Twistedarcher]

Other than PPS I don't have any real reads at this point honestly. I think you all need to layoff people for lurking, really it's 36 hours into the game and a weekend -- wait until later in the day to see if people are actually lurking.