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[gkrieg13]

@ everyone
is pps always this way?  Kinda non-serious with some serious stuff thrown in?  It makes it very difficult to read him.

[Witherweaver]

Yes

[yuma]

So I just got back from the hospital where my wife, 2yearold and I met a new addition to our family. We have been signed up to do foster care for about six months and haven't received a placement so were starting to think that we might never get called, but today we got a call to get a 6-day old infant... so I have no idea what that will mean for my activity. Upon signing up I told SS that I would not /out under any circumstances unless they were extraordinary and I am not sure that it is at that level yet, but we will see.

If I remember right from the hog and faze of the first kid 2 years ago I was able to keep playing reasonably well--often posting late at night while with the baby, but if it becomes too much and can't reasonably keep my commitment here I will need to /out. I will monitor and keep everyone informed. We don't get the baby for a couple of days but there will obviously be some prep work that needs to go into getting a baby out of the blue.

Anyways don't want to distract too much from the game, but wanted to let you guys know where I stood and also wanted to share the information, because honestly... we are pretty excited!

[Jimmmmm]

Congrats yuma!

[chairs]

Woot babby.

[Twistedarcher]

Congrats yuma!

[ashersky]

Why does the other Mason need to claim Day 1?

If gkrieg is telling the truth and he is killed tonight, that will confirm there is another Mason around who will either be an IC or give us a 50/50 Town/scum, which is good for Town. If he's not killed, the other Mason can claim whenever they want.

If we are about to lynch the other Mason, they just claim.

If gkrieg is lying... well scum don't claim Mason on Day 1.

Welcome back man.

[ashersky]

Awesome news yuma!  Name him ashersky!

[Awaclus]

Congrats yuma!

[faust]

Protip: gkrieg can use his flavor name to encode the name of his partner. Like this:

"If my flavor name starts with an A, faust is my partner.
If my flavor name starts with a B, PPS is my partner
..."

[Hydrad]

Protip: gkrieg can use his flavor name to encode the name of his partner. Like this:

"If my flavor name starts with an A, faust is my partner.
If my flavor name starts with a B, PPS is my partner
..."

that sounds like a smart thing to do.

[chairs]

Protip: gkrieg can use his flavor name to encode the name of his partner. Like this:

"If my flavor name starts with an A, faust is my partner.
If my flavor name starts with a B, PPS is my partner
..."

[yuma]

Protip: gkrieg can use his flavor name to encode the name of his partner. Like this:

"If my flavor name starts with an A, faust is my partner.
If my flavor name starts with a B, PPS is my partner
..."

that sounds like a smart thing to do.

It might be a smart thing to do, but I personally think that it should be run by the mod first. Because while it isn't necessarily illegal it does get into the gray area of pseudo cryptography.

I had a similar situation when I was the mod in Clue mafia about 2 years ago (back during UoS's first foray into mafia) and while I ultimately allowed it I felt that it gave town an unfair advantage and am not sure that I made the correct decision. The situation was a little bit different because it involved a hider but it illustrated how town can use "meaningless" flavor to gain an advantage and explains why mafiascum does not allow any flavor at all outside of "rolemadness" or "bastard" games.

Here is a reference to that conversation just so people know what I am talking about. It isn't enough for me to be completely and totally opposed, but I just don't like the idea of town taking advantage of something that shouldn't necessarily be part of the advantage (flavor really is just something that SS is putting into the game for fun and isn't an integral part of the game).

As such I still just think the mason should claim today to eliminate confusion and to have an additional voice aid town in moving to a correct lynch.

[silverspawn]

I might disallow this for future games, but since I did not do so in the rules, it is allowed for this game.

[Awaclus]

I might disallow this for future games, but since I did not do so in the rules, it is allowed for this game.

If you want to prevent it for this game, can't you just not reveal the flavor names with flips? There doesn't seem to be a rule which requires you to do so.

[ashersky]

I think we should stop talking about it.

[silverspawn]

I might disallow this for future games, but since I did not do so in the rules, it is allowed for this game.

If you want to prevent it for this game, can't you just not reveal the flavor names with flips? There doesn't seem to be a rule which requires you to do so.

Flavor names will be revealed upon flip.

[pingpongsam]

Nice ploy by Yuma to try an humanize himself. That is what the VLA thread is for. Okay, I am 90% joking there.

As for the flavor, well, the most I can say is that it looks important to some extent and I have an idea already of who relates to me flavor wise so I think flavor reveals on flip are going to be somewhat instrumental moving forward.

[yuma]

Okay, I am 90% joking there.

90%. What is the rest of the 10%?

[pingpongsam]

That really is what VLA thread is for and it does garner humanity points whether you intend for it to or not.

[pingpongsam]

And I am naturally demonized by pointing it out. Feel free to exploit that.

[Awaclus]

I think we should stop talking about it.

Why?

[yuma]

That really is what VLA thread is for and it does garner humanity points whether you intend for it to or not.

Ok that is fair. I didn't put it in the VLA thread because I am only in this game and felt that I only needed to tell the players in this game, but you are probably right and will try to use that better in the future.

[pingpongsam]

I think we should stop talking about it.

Why?

Cause mod rules.

[gkrieg13]

Congrats Yuma!

Protip: gkrieg can use his flavor name to encode the name of his partner. Like this:

"If my flavor name starts with an A, faust is my partner.
If my flavor name starts with a B, PPS is my partner
..."

If my partner already doesn't want to reveal himself, I don't think it makes sense for me to decide when he claims.