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Author Topic: M66: Paris Mafia (Game Over, Town Wins)  (Read 133940 times)

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Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #925 on: September 04, 2015, 03:57:56 am »

I don't really get this.

I don't think there's a reason for Seprix and QS not to claim.

I am confirmed Town. Seprix is not. That is why Seprix needs to say who he investigated last night.

Okay, whatever. I checked out Witherweaver.

Why not me, if you think I'm scum?
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Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #926 on: September 04, 2015, 03:59:05 am »

Its so easy at this point. We just don't lynch PT. This is why an Mass claim is necessary.

I don't think that's the best way to go. We can always claim at L-1.
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Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #927 on: September 04, 2015, 04:01:39 am »

Vote: sudgy

Hammering your partner. Nice.

Anything you wanna say about this?

Faust reluctantly hammered Sudgy for town cred.

I hammered because I wanted to end this day in order to keep the confusion about whether you really were the Neapolitan or not. I didn't want town to make more unnecessary claims than they already did.
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Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #928 on: September 04, 2015, 04:02:45 am »

Seprix, no one visited you last night. That is why I thought you were mafia, because what Mafia would be dumb enough to let 2 PT live. Mafia didn't NK me which was the mistake that cost them the game. We must mass claim. If we do that then we win.

You are sure about this, yes? You weren't jailkept for sure?
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Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #929 on: September 04, 2015, 04:05:38 am »

So is siler the only one who didn't post yet? I hope for my own sanity that he comes in soon and counterclaims someone.
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Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #930 on: September 04, 2015, 04:05:47 am »

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Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #931 on: September 04, 2015, 04:10:33 am »

So, riddle me this:

We go into night with two claimed PRs, among them the most dangerous PR of all (the Watcher). The single best play for mafia is to kill the Watcher. It can only be blocked by the Mimes, who have no interest in blocking the kill.

Yet the mafia does not kill the Watcher. Neither do they kill the other claimed PR (which, by the way, would also have been a pretty stupid move). Instead, they kill some random other guy.

This pretty much proves to me that the single mafia player left didn't really think their decision through. Which narrows down the lynch pool significantly, I think.
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Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #932 on: September 04, 2015, 04:15:22 am »

I think I want to lynch among chairs/Ghacob/Xerxes.
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Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #933 on: September 04, 2015, 04:15:48 am »

Seprix, no one visited you last night. That is why I thought you were mafia, because what Mafia would be dumb enough to let 2 PT live. Mafia didn't NK me which was the mistake that cost them the game. We must mass claim. If we do that then we win.

You are sure about this, yes? You weren't jailkept for sure?

Based on my result I am sure yes.

So, riddle me this:

We go into night with two claimed PRs, among them the most dangerous PR of all (the Watcher). The single best play for mafia is to kill the Watcher. It can only be blocked by the Mimes, who have no interest in blocking the kill.

Yet the mafia does not kill the Watcher. Neither do they kill the other claimed PR (which, by the way, would also have been a pretty stupid move). Instead, they kill some random other guy.

This pretty much proves to me that the single mafia player left didn't really think their decision through. Which narrows down the lynch pool significantly, I think.

No, it does not prove that the person didn't think things through. All it proves is that they didn't make the obvious NK choice.
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Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #934 on: September 04, 2015, 04:23:50 am »

Well, I believe that killing the Watcher is the single best strategy for scum here.

I guess there is a nonzero chance that the Mimes jailkept the mafia and the vig shot gkrieg? But I find it hard to believe the Mimes would jailkeep anyone but themselves. Then again, this whole scenario is hard to believe. I'll just wait for silver to show up and counterclaim.
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Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #935 on: September 04, 2015, 04:26:25 am »

I'm still traumatized by ridiculous rl stuff that happened. I'll get to this game in a few days.

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Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #936 on: September 04, 2015, 08:24:47 am »

I don't really get this.

I don't think there's a reason for Seprix and QS not to claim.

I am confirmed Town. Seprix is not. That is why Seprix needs to say who he investigated last night.

Okay, whatever. I checked out Witherweaver.

Why not me, if you think I'm scum?

If I hit the last VT or two, that's another confirmed Town and it's super helpful.
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Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #937 on: September 04, 2015, 08:27:40 am »

So, riddle me this:

We go into night with two claimed PRs, among them the most dangerous PR of all (the Watcher). The single best play for mafia is to kill the Watcher. It can only be blocked by the Mimes, who have no interest in blocking the kill.

Yet the mafia does not kill the Watcher. Neither do they kill the other claimed PR (which, by the way, would also have been a pretty stupid move). Instead, they kill some random other guy.

This pretty much proves to me that the single mafia player left didn't really think their decision through. Which narrows down the lynch pool significantly, I think.


This answers my Question. However, what about the lack of Vigs?
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Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #938 on: September 04, 2015, 08:28:34 am »

I'm still traumatized by ridiculous rl stuff that happened. I'll get to this game in a few days.

...oh god! Hope you're okay!
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Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #939 on: September 04, 2015, 08:44:45 am »

Faust sounds town.  Could be mime I guess.
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Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #940 on: September 04, 2015, 09:00:58 am »

I'm guessing the more likely scenario is that Seprix is Sudgy's partner and just misplayed once Sudgy was outed.  Botched claims happen.  (E.g., TA in Mistborn.)
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Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #941 on: September 04, 2015, 09:05:09 am »

If Sudgy is mime, then lynching him is bad, but not terrible.  In which case I'm still looking at Ghacob as the other Mafia.   Faust could be Sudgy's mime partner, given that he's going after him, but I don't think Faust would play that way. 
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Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #942 on: September 04, 2015, 09:05:23 am »

Er, that should say "If Seprix is mime"
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Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #943 on: September 04, 2015, 09:18:13 am »

I'm guessing the more likely scenario is that Seprix is Sudgy's partner and just misplayed once Sudgy was outed.  Botched claims happen.  (E.g., TA in Mistborn.)

Jesus Christ, I'm not stupid! vote: WW
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Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #944 on: September 04, 2015, 12:12:50 pm »

Why always lynch VT's? Scum will just claim PR then, right, and mime will claim VT. Seprix can't check everyone at the same time.
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Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #945 on: September 04, 2015, 12:13:10 pm »

vote: seprix
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Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #946 on: September 04, 2015, 12:15:34 pm »

I think I want to lynch among chairs/Ghacob/Xerxes.
This pretty much proves to me that the single mafia player left didn't really think their decision through. Which narrows down the lynch pool significantly, I think.

I don't know whether to be insulted - I'm pretty sure I'd know to kill the watcher since there's no doctor.
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Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #947 on: September 04, 2015, 01:00:21 pm »

uh, likewise.

I don't see a scum!chairs narrative here, but then I'm biased as I know I'm Town.

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Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #948 on: September 04, 2015, 01:02:13 pm »

Why always lynch VT's? Scum will just claim PR then, right, and mime will claim VT. Seprix can't check everyone at the same time.

I was thinking this last night, but figured I was just too sleepy to understand.

I still think Seprix is Town, and the lack of a Watcher counterclaim means I grudgingly have to accept that QS is Town.

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Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #949 on: September 04, 2015, 01:03:51 pm »

vote: Ghacob. Explaining why would be... difficult.
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