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Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #875 on: September 03, 2015, 09:41:36 pm »

Your argument immediately falls apart.
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Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #876 on: September 03, 2015, 09:43:47 pm »

@WW,

Ask yourself what are the possibilities that both myself and Seprix are both alive after both claiming PT? I'll tell you the most likely reason. Seprix is Scum because he is not dead.

I really honestly think that Seprix needs to say who he investigated and then we can all mass calim Seprix can clear Town if he investigated a PT. That would give 3 confirmed Power Town in the game which would be huge. Then we do mass claim and that would greatly shrink the lynch pool down. Then we can use VCA and the rest is left up to scum hunting and we have this game in the bag.

WHAT ABOUT YOU!?!?!?

What about me? Are you saying I am not confirmed town at this point?
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Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #877 on: September 03, 2015, 09:46:48 pm »

PT outnumber VT claims at this point. That's pretty much an auto win for Town now.
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Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #878 on: September 03, 2015, 09:48:12 pm »

Its so easy at this point. We just don't lynch PT. This is why an Mass claim is necessary.
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Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #879 on: September 03, 2015, 09:51:00 pm »

Then everyone claims PT... But that's hard. Yeah, Town is probably going to win at this point. We just can't screw it up.
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Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #880 on: September 03, 2015, 09:51:58 pm »

There's only one Scum left. We just have to find the Mafia and avoid the Mime.
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Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #881 on: September 03, 2015, 09:53:22 pm »

Town wins this game if you all start listening to me.

I've been saving this one for an occasion like this:

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Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #882 on: September 03, 2015, 09:59:11 pm »

OK I don't understand why QS is confirmed Town.

Please explain.

With Seprix, I can say "It is my opinion that Seprix would not claim Neapolitan as Mafia, because he could get counterclaimed. He could claim it as Mime, but we could check him via Vig shot (which I am STILL annoyed with our Vig, but whatever), so it's risky as Mime in the counterclaim scenario as well. In either case, he has NOT been counterclaimed, so imho Seprix is IC.

Conversely, QS is arguing Seprix is NOT an IC, which (based on my logic above) indicates QS is scum. But Seprix doesn't appear to believe QS is scum, and Seprix is the IC so I have at least some mild faith that his reads are coming from a good point.

PLEASE GOOBY ESPLAIN.

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Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #883 on: September 03, 2015, 10:05:22 pm »

For QS to be scum, he would to have bussed his partner. That's insane. We can Vig him last chance we get, but otherwise assume he's town? There are only 2 scum, bussing your own partner is insanity here.
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Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #884 on: September 03, 2015, 10:05:59 pm »

I agree, Seprix is basically guaranteed Town imho, as there's no counterclaim.
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Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #885 on: September 03, 2015, 10:07:49 pm »

What does PT mean?
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Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #886 on: September 03, 2015, 10:08:37 pm »

And that lynch went fast - I would have been pretty annoyed if it didn't turn out to be scum.
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Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #887 on: September 03, 2015, 10:19:58 pm »

What does PT mean?
Power town, from the context.
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Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #888 on: September 03, 2015, 10:21:11 pm »

Started writing a post a few times, didn't get far any time, the big thing I wanted to say was that massclaiming is pro-scum, both mime and mafia


In a slightly different direction, silverspawn hasn't posted at all today; is this the master mimestrat?

Worth a vote:ss

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Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #889 on: September 03, 2015, 10:28:26 pm »

Umm... Please don't lynch mimes, thanks.
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Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #890 on: September 03, 2015, 10:30:54 pm »

Seprix, share your results NOW.

Why? You know I scouted you yesterday, and I scouted someone else today. You already know half of my check. If you absolutely think I should say anyways, okay. And what about your scouting?

Seprix, If you are scum you would know that sudgy did in fact NK Teprop. It would be a very acceptable play as scum to buss your teammate with such incriminating evidence against them. Plus I have info on you so I will know if your claim is not true or not depending on the info you provide.

You said the whole Watcher thing. I believed you, gave your story a good run. And congrats, seems you're correct! You obviously tracked me last night, so you already know who I checked out. So since you're clearly already Town for sure, why don't YOU tell me who I checked?
Trackers and watchers are different roles.

Who did you target N1 and why ww and that target?
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Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #891 on: September 03, 2015, 10:39:27 pm »

Vote: sudgy

Hammering your partner. Nice.

Anything you wanna say about this?
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Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #892 on: September 03, 2015, 10:46:55 pm »

OK I don't understand why QS is confirmed Town.

Please explain.

With Seprix, I can say "It is my opinion that Seprix would not claim Neapolitan as Mafia, because he could get counterclaimed. He could claim it as Mime, but we could check him via Vig shot (which I am STILL annoyed with our Vig, but whatever), so it's risky as Mime in the counterclaim scenario as well. In either case, he has NOT been counterclaimed, so imho Seprix is IC.

Conversely, QS is arguing Seprix is NOT an IC, which (based on my logic above) indicates QS is scum. But Seprix doesn't appear to believe QS is scum, and Seprix is the IC so I have at least some mild faith that his reads are coming from a good point.

PLEASE GOOBY ESPLAIN.

First things first. We need a mass claim. We have NO PT dead yet and that is what cost mafia the game.
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Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #893 on: September 03, 2015, 10:48:02 pm »

OK I don't understand why QS is confirmed Town.

Please explain.

With Seprix, I can say "It is my opinion that Seprix would not claim Neapolitan as Mafia, because he could get counterclaimed. He could claim it as Mime, but we could check him via Vig shot (which I am STILL annoyed with our Vig, but whatever), so it's risky as Mime in the counterclaim scenario as well. In either case, he has NOT been counterclaimed, so imho Seprix is IC.

Conversely, QS is arguing Seprix is NOT an IC, which (based on my logic above) indicates QS is scum. But Seprix doesn't appear to believe QS is scum, and Seprix is the IC so I have at least some mild faith that his reads are coming from a good point.

PLEASE GOOBY ESPLAIN.

First things first. We need a mass claim. We have NO PT dead yet and that is what cost mafia the game.

We all claim and lynch a random VT claim. to make for 4 VT claims left and 4 PT claims.
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Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #894 on: September 03, 2015, 10:57:47 pm »

Vote: sudgy

Hammering your partner. Nice.

Anything you wanna say about this?

Faust reluctantly hammered Sudgy for town cred.
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Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #895 on: September 03, 2015, 11:08:59 pm »

Vote: sudgy

Hammering your partner. Nice.

Anything you wanna say about this?

Faust reluctantly hammered Sudgy for town cred.

This is conjecture.

The only way to secure a Town win is if there is a Mass claim. Do the math. We all claim. Scum and Mime are forced to claim VT because of your role dude. We have a vig a watcher and a PT investigator at this point. If we Vig All VT claims and lynch all VT claims then we automatically win as town because even if the 2 other VT die by next day, there are only 3 VT claims left and 4 PT left which we can easily confirm in one day. Even if mafia NK the vig, not only is there a back up vig but there is also a watcher in the game that can see who targeted the Vig. Scum made the worst play ever by keeping 2 PT alive and instead NKing a VT. There is no way Town loses this game.
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Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #896 on: September 03, 2015, 11:09:59 pm »

Unvote

I kept that vote for too long to where it could be WIFOM. Sorry about that.
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Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #897 on: September 03, 2015, 11:12:29 pm »

Scum isn't forced to do anything if I die.
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Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #898 on: September 03, 2015, 11:13:29 pm »

They are though because I can watch you to see who targets you.
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Re: M66: Paris Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #899 on: September 03, 2015, 11:14:12 pm »

Bump.
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