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[QuickSync]

fwiw, mime want to lynch town too.

[gkrieg13]

fwiw, mime want to lynch town too.

Why is that relevant?

[Seprix]

I'll claim. I'm at work, but here I go:

I am VT.

[gkrieg13]

vote: quicksync
Let's try this again

[XerxesPraelor]

vote: quicksync

I'll be available to switch back by deadline. (Intent to hammer once it gets to that point)

[QuickSync]

fwiw, mime want to lynch town too.

Why is that relevant?

Seriously? You don't see how that could impact the game? iirc, it has not been said in the thread yet, which is why I bring it up because it is new info in an otherwise mostly dead thread.

[QuickSync]

vote: quicksync

I'll be available to switch back by deadline. (Intent to hammer once it gets to that point)

So what I'm understanding here is that while you want to lynch me, you're willing to really just lynch anyone. Uh-hu, Noted.

[Axxle]

Do you think it's town to be ok with a no lynch?

[Ghacob]

I've returned from wasting my time
read thread, Awaclus still seems clear mime, don't want to lynch, so my vote should go for Seprix of the two wagons, uncertain about stepping outside of that; not sure we have time; will think after pondering

Do you think it's town to be ok with a no lynch?

This is interesting. Surely it should be in town's interest to no lynch at least occasionally, or else the rule should not be in effect for the 2 no lynch rule, but how often should we try and/or is it a good idea now. Going to write down and work through some numbers in thread

[Ghacob]

For simplicity remove all investigative roles. In the event of a tie, this is a net bonus, but fakeclaiming makes this uncertain etc.
1-7 VTs
8,9 Vigs
10,11 Mafia
12,13 Mimes
Additional simplification, lynches are random, instead of teams gaining influence, this will make lynches slightly more in favor of town

...

I've decided that this is hard to math out, so I'm just going to random out a few games with and without nolynches
 kills in order of mafia, vig
RBed

G1, no nolynches,
D1 13
N1 4, 1
D2 12
welp

G2, no nolynches
D1 4
N1 9, 3
D2 7
N2 12 13
D3 5
N3 2 6
D4 8

Well it just occurred to me that this is terribly inefficient and a waste of everyone's time, but my basic intuitive conclusion is that each no lynch day is ~~sorrta like a normal day night cycle with no vigs or mimes
if we could nolynch every day, that would turn the game vaguely into 8 VTs, 1 Cop vs 2 mafia vs 2 3rd party/survivor lovers(where killing both of two specific townsmembers would remove the 'lynch')

I like this idea

[Seprix]

We're considering a no-lynch? I guess that's okay, except we'll just lose gkraig or another pro-town player without taking a shot in the dark with a D1 lynch, and that just makes life harder for town.

[Seprix]

I think it's wrong to be overly paranoid about hitting a mime right now, and that it shouldn't get in the way of lynching someone. Mafia could kill the last mime after all.

[Seprix]

In fact, it's really easy for mafia to kill the mime. If the second mime wants to die and plays awful, Mafia will kill him quickly because he'll essentially be a no-lynch since town doesn't want to kill him, and it gives scum a better shot at winning. Not to mention possible Town vigs.

[gkrieg13]

no way I do a no-lynch today.

[XerxesPraelor]

vote: quicksync

I'll be available to switch back by deadline. (Intent to hammer once it gets to that point)

So what I'm understanding here is that while you want to lynch me, you're willing to really just lynch anyone. Uh-hu, Noted.

I want to lynch you, but Seprix is good too (especially since he's not a PR)

[gkrieg13]

to those who were on qs earlier in the day but switched, why did you switch but won't switch back?

[QuickSync]

Do you think it's town to be ok with a no lynch?

Depends on the person, but statistically speaking, no-lynches are bad for town.

[Ghacob]

Do you think it's town to be ok with a no lynch?

Depends on the person, but statistically speaking, no-lynches are bad for town.

That's certainly true in general, but I'm not sure that statistically speaking, that's true this game

[QuickSync]

Do you think it's town to be ok with a no lynch?

Depends on the person, but statistically speaking, no-lynches are bad for town.

That's certainly true in general, but I'm not sure that statistically speaking, that's true this game

That's a laugh. And just how would you go about calculating that exactly?

[Seprix]

Do you think it's town to be ok with a no lynch?

Depends on the person, but statistically speaking, no-lynches are bad for town.

That's certainly true in general, but I'm not sure that statistically speaking, that's true this game

That's a laugh. And just how would you go about calculating that exactly?

For simplicity remove all investigative roles. In the event of a tie, this is a net bonus, but fakeclaiming makes this uncertain etc.
1-7 VTs
8,9 Vigs
10,11 Mafia
12,13 Mimes
Additional simplification, lynches are random, instead of teams gaining influence, this will make lynches slightly more in favor of town

...

I've decided that this is hard to math out, so I'm just going to random out a few games with and without nolynches
 kills in order of mafia, vig
RBed

G1, no nolynches,
D1 13
N1 4, 1
D2 12
welp

G2, no nolynches
D1 4
N1 9, 3
D2 7
N2 12 13
D3 5
N3 2 6
D4 8

Well it just occurred to me that this is terribly inefficient and a waste of everyone's time, but my basic intuitive conclusion is that each no lynch day is ~~sorrta like a normal day night cycle with no vigs or mimes
if we could nolynch every day, that would turn the game vaguely into 8 VTs, 1 Cop vs 2 mafia vs 2 3rd party/survivor lovers(where killing both of two specific townsmembers would remove the 'lynch')

I like this idea

...It's like you're not even reading the thread...

[silverspawn]

any reason no-one wants to do axxle? Egork was super lurky, then axxle came on and was weird and not really helpful.

[Awaclus]

Axxle is a better lynch than Seprix, me or faust at least.

[silverspawn]

also, faust. if he's town, then sheeping him is a great idea. If he's not town, then him advocating the axxle lynch is still pretty good. he just brought a scum buddy to the knife in his last finished game day 1, and here he's pretty likely to make such a comment while hoping nothing happens. it'd give him town cred later.

[silverspawn]

 ( I mean this is all pretty good for an axxle lynch )

[Awaclus]

Vote: Axxle