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[Seprix]

Either way, Faust will never get lynched now because it's so obvious, and if no Vig targets him, he's going to hover above everyone's head all game.

[sudgy]

I do think we should be wary of lynching mimes even today.  If we lynch one mime, I think it makes the odds of mimes winning go up by quite a bit.  We shouldn't just not lynch anybody that's scummy, of course, but I don't think we should lynch someone like faust because he's so scummy he might be a mime.  I will vote faust if that's the only lynch that would happen though.

[Seprix]

On one hand, I want to lynch Faust and ignore my brain because that's what Faust would know everyone is thinking.
On the other hand, my brain (and everyone else) seems to oppose this. I suppose it's better to let things play out and wait on the lynch. No reason to risk hitting a mime on a hunch on D1.

[QuickSync]

I'm starting to get a Town read on Seprix now. Also getting my sudgy scum read stronger from him keeping the theory talk going more than it should.

[QuickSync]

It seems highly likely to me that there is no mafia on Faust's wagon.

[QuickSync]

Question: what are the real pros and cons to Awaclus "perfectly emulating his mime meta"?

Would really like some thoughts on this please.

[gkrieg13]

Question: what are the real pros and cons to Awaclus "perfectly emulating his mime meta"?

Would really like some thoughts on this please.

Personally my thoughts are that the pros and cons are the same.  If he were scum or town or mime, he would be able to emulate it for different reasons.
town: emulates it because that is how he plays as town.
scum: emulates it because that is how he plays as town.
mime: emulates it because that is how he plays as town, and it's likely to get him lynched.

[Seprix]

town: emulates it because that is how he plays as town.
scum: emulates it because that is how he plays as town.
mime: emulates it because that is how he plays as town.

So... Awaclus is a completely misguided lynch with no actual evidence?

[Seprix]

Awaclus can wait until later. There are better options right now, and I'm sure there are other good cases besides Faust we can uncover.

[gkrieg13]

town: emulates it because that is how he plays as town.
scum: emulates it because that is how he plays as town.
mime: emulates it because that is how he plays as town.

So... Awaclus is a completely misguided lynch with no actual evidence?

I'm just saying that it makes him hard to read.  I feel like there are a few people that when they play town, they don't play town very well so that it is easier for them to be mafia, because they already don't play town well so no one suspects them.  Not saying that this is necessarily his reasons, but it is a reason I could see.

PPE

[faust]

Faust just seems to agressive here. Vote: faust

Too aggressive? Am I not aggressive as town? Of all the reasons I heard for lynching me today, this is the crappiest, and that's saying something. Congratulations.

[faust]

Either way, Faust will never get lynched now because it's so obvious, and if no Vig targets him, he's going to hover above everyone's head all game.

It's funny you say that I will never get lynched when I'm the only viable wagon.

[faust]

Vote: Seprix as there doesn't seem to be any support for silver.

[faust]

It seems highly likely to me that there is no mafia on Faust's wagon.

What is the reason for this? Illuminate me.

[faust]

Question: what are the real pros and cons to Awaclus "perfectly emulating his mime meta"?

Would really like some thoughts on this please.

Well, for scum!Awaclus, I think it didn't really work out great for him to do that - he gets lynched fairly often. As town, man, I would seriously encourage changing of meta, but Awaclus is too afraid to do that (or so he said some time before, I don't remember where). And I think mime!Awaclus will play exactly like town!Awaclus to get lynched.

So in short: I think Awaclus has more reason to play the way he does as mime or town than he does as scum.

[faust]

EgorK: Do you have thoughts on, like, anything?

[QuickSync]

It seems highly likely to me that there is no mafia on Faust's wagon.

What is the reason for this? Illuminate me.

I could make an essay right now, but that would be a lot of work and could just end up being pissed on. The TL;DR version is that I have town reads on all those people.

[faust]

It seems highly likely to me that there is no mafia on Faust's wagon.

What is the reason for this? Illuminate me.

I could make an essay right now, but that would be a lot of work and could just end up being pissed on. The TL;DR version is that I have town reads on all those people.

So the fact that they're all voting for me is just contingent, huh?

I wonder how you managed to get a town read on Seprix though, and even more how you managed to get any read at all on Egor.

[QuickSync]

It seems highly likely to me that there is no mafia on Faust's wagon.

What is the reason for this? Illuminate me.

I could make an essay right now, but that would be a lot of work and could just end up being pissed on. The TL;DR version is that I have town reads on all those people.

So the fact that they're all voting for me is just contingent, huh?

I wonder how you managed to get a town read on Seprix though, and even more how you managed to get any read at all on Egor.

Wise man.

Egor is the one that I have the weakest read on and its just barely past null.

I never said you was scum tho.

[faust]

So it's basically just a lot of town piled up on town who is in return voting town?

You don't have a lot of faith in our scumhunting abilities, do you?

[faust]

Just checked where your vote is. Man, our reads are like completely opposite. I believe that literally everyone on my wagon is a better lynch than Awaclus.

[QuickSync]

So it's basically just a lot of town piled up on town who is in return voting town?

You don't have a lot of faith in our scumhunting abilities, do you?

No true at all. Every site does what they do best and every site has a little bit different way of doing it. Plus I've only really played in 2 games here so what I would think would be a pretty poor assessment if I was going to make a judgement at this point in time.

Just checked where your vote is. Man, our reads are like completely opposite. I believe that literally everyone on my wagon is a better lynch than Awaclus.

Why? I'm going off that Awaclus is making too much of a game out of his own meta and I don't like that, it looks scummy to me.

[faust]

Just checked where your vote is. Man, our reads are like completely opposite. I believe that literally everyone on my wagon is a better lynch than Awaclus.

Why? I'm going off that Awaclus is making too much of a game out of his own meta and I don't like that, it looks scummy to me.

Well, I get wanting to lynch Awaclus upon first encounter. The way he plays is probably anti-town. Only I've played a couple of games with him now and that's just the way he is. You can find it annoying, but it's not possible to really tell alignment from that.

So Awaclus is still pretty null to me. And here's my wagon:

silver: Uncharacteristically pushing a really bad argument for me being scum. Ignoring everything else. town!silver usually doesn't tunnel that much.
Seprix: I have a scummy feeling, but I don't quite recall where that's coming from. Gotta check.
chairs: His reads so far seem off.
Egor: Easily even more anti-town than Awaclus.

[Awaclus]

Why? I'm going off that Awaclus is making too much of a game out of his own meta and I don't like that, it looks scummy to me.

I make too much of a game out of my own meta especially as town.

[EgorK]

If Faust is a mime, it's not the end of the world. The other Mime can still be killed via Vig or Mafia. It's a very low chance that both mimes will die.

This makes me think that if faust is mime, which is unlikely, Seprix is his partner