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[QuickSync]

@MOD, can we get a vote count?

I'll claim when I'm put at 6.

[Seprix]

@MOD, can we get a vote count?

I'll claim when I'm put at 6.

When? As in it's going to happen? You're giving up so fast though!

[Ghacob]

QuickSync is town.

Let's lynch Awaclus!

Awaclus is Mime.

Let's lynch WW!
vote: WW

@QS: I'd hate to be rude, but mind if I offer a bit of advice? Try, like, stepping back a little bit. And I don't mean to make a post about stepping back but to actually step back. Show a bit more... humbleness? Here you come to a new forum for mafia for you, and you step right out acting like you own the place. Your... largeness? is almost threatening?  and a bit off putting and my computer is turning off so i don't have a chance to finish aaaaa

[UmbrageOfSnow]

Vote Count 1.5
“Counting is the religion of this generation it is its hope and its salvation.” ― Gertrude Stein, Everybody's Autobiography

QuickSynch (4): Faust, XP, Silverspawn, chairs
Witherweaver (2): gkrieg13, Ghacob
Awaclus (2): QuickSync, Witherweaver
chairs (1): Teproc
XP (1): Awaclus
Not Voting (3): EgorK, Sudgy, Seprix

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch, 7 to no-lynch.
Day 1 ends August 27, 6 PM Forum Time.

Edit: correcting for Mr. Ninja up there.

[gkrieg13]

I have an idea. Why don't you provide a reads list so we can compare.

QS: probably town, could be scum, I don't think you're a mime
XP: scum
Awaclus: IC
WW: I can't read WW this early, he always feels towny no matter what he does, so I need more of the actual evidence stuff to form an opinion about him. I guess he could be scum or mime.
SS: null
Ghacob: null
faust: null
chairs: null
gkrieg: null
EgorK: null
Teproc: towny, but I think he's also capable of being this towny as scum, so probably null
sudgy: null
Seprix: Sort of like WW, except that instead of feeling towny, he always feels weird no matter what he does.

Why is XP scummy?

[gkrieg13]

Awaclus is town. Let's talk about something else.

vote: chairs

chairs is town. Let's talk about something else.

vote: sudgy

Why sudgy?  He seems to be making sense to me.

[gkrieg13]

Teproc and awaclus don't seem to be buddies with that little tussle. Although if I were a mime, I would argue with my partner just because one of the two people in a big argument usually gets lynched.

[gkrieg13]

Where is EgorK?  My Russian friend needs to get over here!

[chairs]

Awaclus is town. Let's talk about something else.

vote: chairs

chairs is town. Let's talk about something else.

vote: sudgy

Why sudgy?  He seems to be making sense to me.

My next post addressed this.

[EgorK]

Where is EgorK?  My Russian friend needs to get over here!

I'm here and reading

I just want to wrap up my head around theory of this game before delving right in. The fact that scummiest person is usually bad lynch candidate and good for vigging is really changes this game a lot

[Awaclus]

Why is XP scummy?

Probably because he's scum.

[silverspawn]

So, full reread inc.

I'm really sorry about the mistake. Maybe we can talk about Quiksync instead, or Faust, or Awaclus?

Its a capital S, get it right! (totally joking btw)

That's funny Silverspawn, I thought you were one of my scum buddies.

It's not a capital s, get it right! I'm actually not joking.

Also, Vote: silverspawn for reasons so obvious I don't even need to be bothered mentioning them.

sudgy, what were your reasons for this vote?

I don't buy that Faust is trying to get lynched.

neither do I. And more about that later.

@QS: I'd hate to be rude, but mind if I offer a bit of advice? Try, like, stepping back a little bit. And I don't mean to make a post about stepping back but to actually step back. Show a bit more... humbleness? Here you come to a new forum for mafia for you, and you step right out acting like you own the place. Your... largeness? is almost threatening?  and a bit off putting and my computer is turning off so i don't have a chance to finish aaaaa

no no, no. Well, I disagree. I think what you're doing is totally fine. It works to get the game going, too, and I think it's pro town.


I think the most important things that happened this game were
- faust refusing to be helpful this game. This is essentially a non-town claim. So either he's scum or he's a mime. Keep this in mind.
- XP's 'claim'. I don't buy that he meant 'town' when he said 'Vanilla Townie'. And I think it's more likely to come from a mime than from anything else. I also buy that he's excited about being mime, which fits in with his play.
- QS stuff and votes for him

Blue is mime. Red is scum. Green is town.

gkrieg13
EgorK
chairs
QuickSync
XerxesPraelor
silverspawn
Hydrad
Witherweaver
Ghacob
faust
Sudgy
Awaclus
Seprix

[silverspawn]

So, the setup is really interesting. I almost think mime's would be more fun in a game without vigs -- although I just noticed that mime actually has a JK power. So it's hard to just vig them.

the faust being a mime thing is something I don't buy. The reason is pretty simply that I don't think he expected to get lynched with what he's doing. Which is exactly why we should lynch him. vote: faust. Looks so much like scum.

Awaclus is mimemy because he should know by now
QS is towny and players voting for him are scummy to different degrees. let's see who that is.

#57: silverspawn votes QuickSync (L-7)
#111: sudgy votes QuickSync (L-7)
#114: Seprix votes QuickSync (L-6)
#143: faust votes QuickSync (L-5)
#222: silverspawn votes QuickSync (L-6)
#255: sudgy votes QuickSync (L-5)
#319: chairs votes QuickSync (L-4)

There are quite a few. Bolded the bad ones.

Well, I already have them as scummy, so it all works out.

[silverspawn]

There was a part cut off with the Awaclus thing. He should know by now that his play style is anti town. As a town, I'd expect him to change it. As a scum too. As a mime.... I'd just keep doing what he's doing. He's drawing votes without looking mime-ish.

[Teproc]

This setup would be dumb without vigs, as town would hav eno way to interact with mimes. So if you lynch scum too fast you just lose to Mimes automatically.

You forgot about me in your reads. ALso I voted QS at one point I think, that doesn't show up either.

I disagree about faust, but obviously it's a pretty tough case, it's all a matter of which level on thinking you place on. I think faust thinks he has a good chance of getting lynched for this, which makes me think he' either a Mime or a VT (in this game, VTs getting lynched is not such a bad outcome for town).

Love seeing Seprix battling his former self.

[Teproc]

I think Awaclus is town based on... wait, I'll find it.

[Teproc]

I have an idea. Why don't you provide a reads list so we can compare.

QS: probably town, could be scum, I don't think you're a mime
XP: scum
Awaclus: IC
WW: I can't read WW this early, he always feels towny no matter what he does, so I need more of the actual evidence stuff to form an opinion about him. I guess he could be scum or mime.
SS: null
Ghacob: null
faust: null
chairs: null
gkrieg: null
EgorK: null
Teproc: towny, but I think he's also capable of being this towny as scum, so probably null
sudgy: null
Seprix: Sort of like WW, except that instead of feeling towny, he always feels weird no matter what he does.

Right this. This is a real reads list, because it's 95% null. Normally that's bad, sure, but given the way this game is going, it's the only sane reads list town can produce. Scum would feel pressured to put artificial reads in there. ould be mime too I suppose, but whatever, I don't think this comes from scum.

[Teproc]

See QS's reads just above it, it's incredibly forced. Right now I'm thinking that's because QS is town trying to get the game going, but half of those reads are definitely artificial.

[Teproc]

j/k sudgy is probably Town too. vote: QuickSync

Why ?

Yes, I realize the irony/hypocrisy. Still.

[silverspawn]

This setup would be dumb without vigs, as town would hav eno way to interact with mimes. So if you lynch scum too fast you just lose to Mimes automatically.

Well, obviously the rules would have to be adapted. the way that comes to mind is for town to simply endgame mimes by lynching scum with them still alive.

ALso I voted QS at one point I think, that doesn't show up either.

I just searched manually. I don't think you ever voted for QS.

You forgot about me in your reads.

So I did, but I can't read you anyway, so it's null.

[Awaclus]

There was a part cut off with the Awaclus thing. He should know by now that his play style is anti town. As a town, I'd expect him to change it. As a scum too. As a mime.... I'd just keep doing what he's doing. He's drawing votes without looking mime-ish.

I don't think my play style is anti-town.

[silverspawn]

I have an idea. Why don't you provide a reads list so we can compare.

QS: probably town, could be scum, I don't think you're a mime
XP: scum
Awaclus: IC
WW: I can't read WW this early, he always feels towny no matter what he does, so I need more of the actual evidence stuff to form an opinion about him. I guess he could be scum or mime.
SS: null
Ghacob: null
faust: null
chairs: null
gkrieg: null
EgorK: null
Teproc: towny, but I think he's also capable of being this towny as scum, so probably null
sudgy: null
Seprix: Sort of like WW, except that instead of feeling towny, he always feels weird no matter what he does.

Right this. This is a real reads list, because it's 95% null. Normally that's bad, sure, but given the way this game is going, it's the only sane reads list town can produce. Scum would feel pressured to put artificial reads in there. ould be mime too I suppose, but whatever, I don't think this comes from scum.

This thought did come to mind when I saw the list, and if it was someone else, I'd probably give him town points.

[silverspawn]

There was a part cut off with the Awaclus thing. He should know by now that his play style is anti town. As a town, I'd expect him to change it. As a scum too. As a mime.... I'd just keep doing what he's doing. He's drawing votes without looking mime-ish.

I don't think my play style is anti-town.

yes yes that's exactly what mime!you would say here.

[Teproc]

There was a part cut off with the Awaclus thing. He should know by now that his play style is anti town. As a town, I'd expect him to change it. As a scum too. As a mime.... I'd just keep doing what he's doing. He's drawing votes without looking mime-ish.

I don't think my play style is anti-town.

yes yes that's exactly what mime!you would say here.

Do you think Awaclus is more likely to be mafia than town ?

[Awaclus]

There was a part cut off with the Awaclus thing. He should know by now that his play style is anti town. As a town, I'd expect him to change it. As a scum too. As a mime.... I'd just keep doing what he's doing. He's drawing votes without looking mime-ish.

I don't think my play style is anti-town.

yes yes that's exactly what mime!you would say here.

That's also what town!me and scum!me would say here, because it's true.