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[ashersky]

There's no design reason you couldn't make one of Jin/Sun scum.  Nor is a there a flavor reason.

Remember, this is a game set in Lost -- it doesn't have to stay true to the series.  Maybe Sun died and the Man in Black is mascarading as her.

[A Drowned Kernel]

So there's a ton of ton of posts that I'm trying to catch up on, and most of it has to do with reinoe. I still think he's town, for reasons I've stated before. I super think that Robz is town. I think that XP jumping on the reinoe wagon makes me finer than ever with voting for him.

[Hydrad]

Is reinoe at L-1 or close by?

I've been trying to keep track but i'm not really sure where we are at right now. This many people is hard to keep track of.

[A Drowned Kernel]

People who were voting him have unvoted or changed their votes, so I don't think so. Did you want to hammer?

[A Drowned Kernel]

Oh, but pit is voting for him, which might put him back up there? Check before you vote, Hydrad.

[xeiron]

Is reinoe at L-1 or close by?

I've been trying to keep track but i'm not really sure where we are at right now. This many people is hard to keep track of.

Just counted.
7 votes = L-1

[silverspawn]

don't hammer. why does everyone get lynched early in his first game on this site?

I love that Robz is in this game now, by the way. I started pretty much right after he stopped playing, the only game we had was zelda which was kind of stupid.

I think the flavor question is really tricky to answer, because it heavily depends on how faust approaches game design.

I think e's case reads genuine. Not so sure about ADK.

[reinoe]

There's no design reason you couldn't make one of Jin/Sun scum.  Nor is a there a flavor reason.

Remember, this is a game set in Lost -- it doesn't have to stay true to the series.  Maybe Sun died and the Man in Black is mascarading as her.

Did you not see the statement I directed towards you?

[reinoe]

Vote: reinoe
I don't like his angry-agressive-raging playstyle + i think one of the neighbours is propably scum + TA/robz seems more towny to me

So between Asherkey's hypocrisy, the slew of "me too" voters with poor justifications for their votes (see above), and the lack of counterwagon, this is quite obviously a scum motivated push.

[Teproc]

Vote: reinoe
I don't like his angry-agressive-raging playstyle + i think one of the neighbours is propably scum + TA/robz seems more towny to me

So between Asherkey's hypocrisy, the slew of "me too" voters with poor justifications for their votes (see above), and the lack of counterwagon, this is quite obviously a scum motivated push.

Who specifically do you think is scum on your wagon ?

[xeiron]

Reads list:

1. Teproc - Solid play. He is there where something happends and generally makes sense when he is speaking. I hope he is town.
2. Hydrad. - Has been a background player so far.  Nothing he has said so far gives me pointes about his allignment. Null read.
3. XerxesPraelor - Also a background player.
4. Witherweaver- Have been active. I have not gotten much of a read on him, but I would not lynch him.
5. silverspawn - Null-read.
6. Beyond Awesome - Has little content. I hope to see more of him in the coming days
7. Ashersky - Usual ashersky-play with his plans. I want to hear what he has to say about them D2. Will not lynch today.
8. Ichimaru Gin - concerned about his own position, and gets defenive when cases are made of him. I undreastans that is usual for him. Active poster. slight town read
9. Xeiron - Town
10. chairs - Too little content
11. Awaclus - Has been in the background.
12. 2.71828... - Null-read
13. xxpittip - Too little content.
14. Twistedarcher/Robz - Has gotten much focus because of reinoe's case. I think he has reacted towny.
15. A Drowned Kernel - Have been active. Slight town read.
16. Reinoe - I do not how to read this guy. He has a different playstyle than the rest. I am fine with lynching him.

So this is mostly a bunch of null-reads with some townier reads. The lack of scumreads makes me more suscpicious those with little content and the ones who stays more in the background.

Willing to lynch: Hydrad, XP, silverspawn, BA, chairs, Awaclus, e, xxpittip, reinoe.

[reinoe]

I longingly await you to read this game.

TA Post 1-4: Theory, setup stuff.  Nothing wrong here, or noteworthy.

TA post 5:

E, multiple people have sheeped Ash, why does Ichi get singled out for the theory reason? You're saying your initial vote was throwing stuff out there, but clearly it's more than that, since you're exclusive voting Ichi for something that's not exclusive to Ichi.

Basically, your vote reads to me as "Vote Ichi because [extended theory talk that doesn't really mean anything]", it's a very generic theory that's not even exclusive to Ichi -- so it kinda reads as a bogus justification to me.

This is good and normal.


TA post 6:

So you have one example of of TwistedArcher scumhunting which is actually him sheeping an argument that several other posters have made?  Well I did say "examples" so the fact that you could only find one   example which involves him sheeping other people actually re-inforces my point.

@TEPROC
Asherkey's hypocrisy stands out very strongly (people defending reinoe means reinoe is scum/ignores people defending Twisted), but xx vote is among the worst of the "me too" voters.

[Teproc]

So this is mostly a bunch of null-reads with some townier reads. The lack of scumreads makes me more suscpicious those with little content and the ones who stays more in the background.

This is exactly where I am. My lynchpool is basically lurkers + Hydrad and WW.

[ashersky]

There's no design reason you couldn't make one of Jin/Sun scum.  Nor is a there a flavor reason.

Remember, this is a game set in Lost -- it doesn't have to stay true to the series.  Maybe Sun died and the Man in Black is mascarading as her.

Did you not see the statement I directed towards you?

Maybe not?  The only one that stands out is that you want me to point out where TA scumhunted.  WW did that for you.

I don't recall you saying anything directly to me about flavor.

[ashersky]

@TEPROC
Asherkey's hypocrisy stands out very strongly (people defending reinoe means reinoe is scum/ignores people defending Twisted), but xx vote is among the worst of the "me too" voters.

Where have I been hypocritical?  I don't think you mean what you think you mean.

I've said nothing about people defending you, other than to reference Ichimaru Gin's posts and the ensuring argument from there.

My entire case on you has nothing to do with anyone defending you.

[reinoe]

So one post of TA sheeping other people's arguments and it took two people to find THAT one example.  Cool.  I'm glad everyone is able to slowly see how those TA townreads that were being tossed out like candy were completely unsupported.

@ashersky
then I will have to re-read when I'm not at work.

[chairs]

wow.

just wow.

[ashersky]

wow.

just wow.

He's at L-1, you know...

[Teproc]

So one post of TA sheeping other people's arguments and it took two people to find THAT one example.  Cool.  I'm glad everyone is able to slowly see how those TA townreads that were being tossed out like candy were completely unsupported.

Can you quote people having townreads on TA/Robz based on scumhunting ? Otherwise you're arguing against wind.

I think TA/Robz is town based on flavor and just a gut feeling on the way the both posted. You can't just look at "scumhunting / not scumhunting" to determine if someone is town or not... because scum can do it too, very convincingly if they're good.

I actually don't think that many people expressed town reads on TA/Robz, it's just that people disagreed with your insane statement that he "claimed scum".

[Teproc]

wow.

just wow.

He's at L-1, you know...

I thought chairs was referring to the 10 page before he got the chance to check in.

The reinoe lynch is bad, don't do it.

[Hydrad]

So this is mostly a bunch of null-reads with some townier reads. The lack of scumreads makes me more suscpicious those with little content and the ones who stays more in the background.

This is exactly where I am. My lynchpool is basically lurkers + Hydrad and WW.

You should take one person out of that pool...

also I gave a reads list I havn't been trying to sit in the background.

[Witherweaver]

Sick of it.

Vote: Reinoe

Don't care if he's scum or not.  You guys can not like me.

[ashersky]

So one post of TA sheeping other people's arguments and it took two people to find THAT one example.  Cool.  I'm glad everyone is able to slowly see how those TA townreads that were being tossed out like candy were completely unsupported.

TA had 16 in-game posts before he quit.

If he had played the entire game, assuming he survived for a few days at least, he would have had hundreds.  You've not played here before, and you've not played a game with TA, but when he's town, he is a very valuable player who's insightful and smart.

He's not the greatest scum player in the world, actually (no offense TA).

The town reads some players here were "toss[ing] out like candy" were unsupported by his content.  I don't know that anyone would argue against that statement.  But some people start with auto-townreads, and that is based on prior experience, which you don't have here.

My point is, it's okay that people had TA as a townread without having any content to support it.  It's just a read.

Just like it's okay for you to have a scumread on TA without having any content to support it.

Lack of positive proof does not prove a negative.  Imagine this statement: "using black keyboards causes lung cancer."  I cannot definitively prove that black keyboards do NOT cause lung cancer, as that's an impossible task.  Just because I can't prove that doesn't make the statement true.

[ashersky]

Sick of it.

Vote: Reinoe

Don't care if he's scum or not.  You guys can not like me.

I'm okay with it.  What time is it in Germany?

[A Drowned Kernel]

Well okay then. 24 hours of twilight. Do we want to come to a decision on the button?