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[sudgy]

Vote: No on Rule 357

[Voltaire]

I think this vote ends in about five hours.

[Voltaire]

Voting is over, proposal fails 3-5. It is now liopoil's turn. I charged mail-mi for his unit (I had already given out the prox. points & moved his unit)

We need to shorten up these deadlines. It's clear nobody cared about the vote enough to vote, yet we had to let the clock run out anyway.

[WalrusMcFishSr]

Is there an official way to abstain right now? On some of these votes where I don't have a strong opinion it might be nice. And things could time out more quickly.

[Voltaire]

There isn't right now. That's a good idea.

[Voltaire]

I caught and fixed a mistake - rule 355 should be 356, because 356 amended it, but it does get a new number. I incorrectly let it keep its old number.

[Jimmmmm]

Abstaining is a fine idea. Reducing the deadlines is more important I think. I'll reiterate my suggestion of 24 hours without a post from the active player, 36 without a draft and 48 without a proposal. 24 hours is probably fine for the voting phase as well.

[Voltaire]

Voting is over, proposal fails 3-5. It is now liopoil's turn.

Helllllllllllllllllo, lio? If you don't have any ideas, propose some version of Jimmmm's suggestion.

[EFHW]

or figure out a more efficient auction mechanism for bidding on unit placement/movement.

[liopoil]

scott_pilgrim, $5 and I give you the point.

Draft of Rule proposal 358:

Amend rule 334 to read as: When a rule-change is finalized by the player proposing the rule change, it will be voted on. Eligible voters will vote by posting in thread. Votes should be presented in the form Vote: Yes on rule ---, Vote: No on rule ---, or Vote: Abstain on rule ---(where '---' denotes the proposal number). The player proposing the rule will by default vote yes unless they say otherwise. Once over half of the eligible voters who didn't Vote: Abstain have voted yes, the proposal is passed. Once either half of the eligible voters who didn't Vote: Abstain have voted no, or the player proposing the rule chooses to end the voting, the proposal fails. If a proposal has been in the voting stage for 60 hours or more and has not been resolved, all players who have not yet voted are not considered eligible voters (for this vote). This effectively ends the vote with only players currently voting.

[scott_pilgrim]

Give N$5 to liopoil

[liopoil]

Move to J10
Proximity with Scott_Pilgrim

[Jimmmmm]

What's the change here?

[liopoil]

you can abstain now to speed it along

[Jimmmmm]

Oh, the abstain option.

Can you reduce the deadline to 24 or 36 hours, and change the wording to reflect that after this time players may end the turn?

[Voltaire]

Move to J10
Proximity with Scott_Pilgrim

These aren't in the right format, fyi, so they don't count yet.

[Voltaire]

Can you reduce the deadline to 24 or 36 hours, and change the wording to reflect that after this time players may end the turn?

These are my same inputs, fyi.

[florrat]

So, liopoil, are you going to wait until we end your turn, or are you going to propose your rule? If you want feedback: I think some way to abstain is useful, and a shorter voting time could also be useful (I'd prefer more than 24 hours though, like 36).

[liopoil]

Move L12 to L11
Move L11 to K10
Move K10 to J10
Proximity between J10 and K11

Draft of Proposal 358:

Amend rule 334 to read as: When a rule-change is finalized by the player proposing the rule change, it will be voted on. Eligible voters will vote by posting in thread. Votes should be presented in the form Vote: Yes on rule ---, Vote: No on rule ---, or Vote: Abstain on rule ---(where '---' denotes the proposal number). The player proposing the rule will by default vote yes unless they say otherwise. Once over half of the eligible voters who didn't Vote: Abstain have voted yes, the proposal is passed. Once either half of the eligible voters who didn't Vote: Abstain have voted no, or the player proposing the rule chooses to end the voting, the proposal fails. If a proposal has been in the voting stage for 36 hours or more and has not been resolved, all players who have not yet voted are not considered eligible voters (for this vote). This effectively ends the vote with only players currently voting.

I'll finalize this by the end of the day.

reduce the deadline to 24 or 36 hours, and change the wording to reflect that after this time players may end the turn?

what do you mean by letting other players end the turn? Rule 329 suggests they already would be.

[Voltaire]

Lio, can you finalize this today? Otherwise I'm going to end your turn because I want this game to get moving again.

[liopoil]

Lio, can you finalize this today? Otherwise I'm going to end your turn because I want this game to get moving again.

Oops, forgot. People didn't point say anything more! oh well.

Final Rule proposal 358:
Amend rule 334 to read as: When a rule-change is finalized by the player proposing the rule change, it will be voted on. Eligible voters will vote by posting in thread. Votes should be presented in the form Vote: Yes on rule ---, Vote: No on rule ---, or Vote: Abstain on rule ---(where '---' denotes the proposal number). The player proposing the rule will by default vote yes unless they say otherwise. Once over half of the eligible voters who didn't Vote: Abstain have voted yes, the proposal is passed. Once either half of the eligible voters who didn't Vote: Abstain have voted no, or the player proposing the rule chooses to end the voting, the proposal fails. If a proposal has been in the voting stage for 36 hours or more and has not been resolved, all players who have not yet voted are not considered eligible voters (for this vote). This effectively ends the vote with only players currently voting.

[sudgy]

Vote: Yes on Rule 358

[WalrusMcFishSr]

Vote: Yes on Rule 358

[florrat]

Vote: Yes on Rule 358

[Voltaire]

This will move 334 to the end of the current ruleset as the new 358 - I don't think that will cause any problems, but a heads-up? Shout loudly if you see a problem with that.