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Re: f.ds Nomic 1 (Thread 3): mail-mi's turn
« Reply #375 on: March 17, 2014, 01:12:19 am »

Vote: No on Rule 357
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Re: f.ds Nomic 1 (Thread 3): mail-mi's turn
« Reply #376 on: March 18, 2014, 01:39:14 am »


I think this vote ends in about five hours.
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Re: f.ds Nomic 1 (Thread 3): mail-mi's turn
« Reply #377 on: March 18, 2014, 11:10:07 am »

Voting is over, proposal fails 3-5. It is now liopoil's turn. I charged mail-mi for his unit (I had already given out the prox. points & moved his unit)

We need to shorten up these deadlines. It's clear nobody cared about the vote enough to vote, yet we had to let the clock run out anyway.
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Re: f.ds Nomic 1 (Thread 3): liopoil's turn
« Reply #378 on: March 18, 2014, 09:27:19 pm »

Is there an official way to abstain right now? On some of these votes where I don't have a strong opinion it might be nice. And things could time out more quickly.
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Re: f.ds Nomic 1 (Thread 3): liopoil's turn
« Reply #379 on: March 18, 2014, 09:58:54 pm »

There isn't right now. That's a good idea.
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Re: f.ds Nomic 1 (Thread 3): liopoil's turn
« Reply #380 on: March 18, 2014, 10:02:00 pm »

I caught and fixed a mistake - rule 355 should be 356, because 356 amended it, but it does get a new number. I incorrectly let it keep its old number.
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Re: f.ds Nomic 1 (Thread 3): liopoil's turn
« Reply #381 on: March 19, 2014, 12:59:50 am »

Abstaining is a fine idea. Reducing the deadlines is more important I think. I'll reiterate my suggestion of 24 hours without a post from the active player, 36 without a draft and 48 without a proposal. 24 hours is probably fine for the voting phase as well.
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Re: f.ds Nomic 1 (Thread 3): mail-mi's turn
« Reply #382 on: March 20, 2014, 03:20:05 pm »

Voting is over, proposal fails 3-5. It is now liopoil's turn.

Helllllllllllllllllo, lio? If you don't have any ideas, propose some version of Jimmmm's suggestion.
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Re: f.ds Nomic 1 (Thread 3): liopoil's turn
« Reply #383 on: March 20, 2014, 03:56:27 pm »

or figure out a more efficient auction mechanism for bidding on unit placement/movement.
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Re: f.ds Nomic 1 (Thread 3): liopoil's turn
« Reply #384 on: March 20, 2014, 08:40:40 pm »

scott_pilgrim, $5 and I give you the point.

Draft of Rule proposal 358:
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Amend rule 334 to read as: When a rule-change is finalized by the player proposing the rule change, it will be voted on. Eligible voters will vote by posting in thread. Votes should be presented in the form Vote: Yes on rule ---, Vote: No on rule ---, or Vote: Abstain on rule ---(where '---' denotes the proposal number). The player proposing the rule will by default vote yes unless they say otherwise. Once over half of the eligible voters who didn't Vote: Abstain have voted yes, the proposal is passed. Once either half of the eligible voters who didn't Vote: Abstain have voted no, or the player proposing the rule chooses to end the voting, the proposal fails. If a proposal has been in the voting stage for 60 hours or more and has not been resolved, all players who have not yet voted are not considered eligible voters (for this vote). This effectively ends the vote with only players currently voting.
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Re: f.ds Nomic 1 (Thread 3): liopoil's turn
« Reply #385 on: March 20, 2014, 08:44:11 pm »

Give N$5 to liopoil
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Re: f.ds Nomic 1 (Thread 3): liopoil's turn
« Reply #386 on: March 20, 2014, 08:45:35 pm »

Move to J10
Proximity with Scott_Pilgrim
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Re: f.ds Nomic 1 (Thread 3): liopoil's turn
« Reply #387 on: March 20, 2014, 08:48:43 pm »

What's the change here?
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Re: f.ds Nomic 1 (Thread 3): liopoil's turn
« Reply #388 on: March 20, 2014, 08:49:21 pm »

you can abstain now to speed it along
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Re: f.ds Nomic 1 (Thread 3): liopoil's turn
« Reply #389 on: March 20, 2014, 08:50:17 pm »

Oh, the abstain option.

Can you reduce the deadline to 24 or 36 hours, and change the wording to reflect that after this time players may end the turn?
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Re: f.ds Nomic 1 (Thread 3): liopoil's turn
« Reply #390 on: March 21, 2014, 12:18:50 am »

Move to J10
Proximity with Scott_Pilgrim


These aren't in the right format, fyi, so they don't count yet.
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Re: f.ds Nomic 1 (Thread 3): liopoil's turn
« Reply #391 on: March 21, 2014, 03:15:36 pm »

Can you reduce the deadline to 24 or 36 hours, and change the wording to reflect that after this time players may end the turn?

These are my same inputs, fyi.
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Re: f.ds Nomic 1 (Thread 3): liopoil's turn
« Reply #392 on: March 23, 2014, 01:33:06 am »

So, liopoil, are you going to wait until we end your turn, or are you going to propose your rule? If you want feedback: I think some way to abstain is useful, and a shorter voting time could also be useful (I'd prefer more than 24 hours though, like 36).
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Re: f.ds Nomic 1 (Thread 3): liopoil's turn
« Reply #393 on: March 23, 2014, 11:53:33 am »

Move L12 to L11
Move L11 to K10
Move K10 to J10
Proximity between J10 and K11

Draft of Proposal 358:

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Amend rule 334 to read as: When a rule-change is finalized by the player proposing the rule change, it will be voted on. Eligible voters will vote by posting in thread. Votes should be presented in the form Vote: Yes on rule ---, Vote: No on rule ---, or Vote: Abstain on rule ---(where '---' denotes the proposal number). The player proposing the rule will by default vote yes unless they say otherwise. Once over half of the eligible voters who didn't Vote: Abstain have voted yes, the proposal is passed. Once either half of the eligible voters who didn't Vote: Abstain have voted no, or the player proposing the rule chooses to end the voting, the proposal fails. If a proposal has been in the voting stage for 36 hours or more and has not been resolved, all players who have not yet voted are not considered eligible voters (for this vote). This effectively ends the vote with only players currently voting.

I'll finalize this by the end of the day.
reduce the deadline to 24 or 36 hours, and change the wording to reflect that after this time players may end the turn?
what do you mean by letting other players end the turn? Rule 329 suggests they already would be.
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Re: f.ds Nomic 1 (Thread 3): liopoil's turn
« Reply #394 on: March 24, 2014, 03:52:54 pm »

Lio, can you finalize this today? Otherwise I'm going to end your turn because I want this game to get moving again.
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Re: f.ds Nomic 1 (Thread 3): liopoil's turn
« Reply #395 on: March 24, 2014, 04:14:40 pm »

Lio, can you finalize this today? Otherwise I'm going to end your turn because I want this game to get moving again.
Oops, forgot. People didn't point say anything more! oh well.

Final Rule proposal 358:
Amend rule 334 to read as: When a rule-change is finalized by the player proposing the rule change, it will be voted on. Eligible voters will vote by posting in thread. Votes should be presented in the form Vote: Yes on rule ---, Vote: No on rule ---, or Vote: Abstain on rule ---(where '---' denotes the proposal number). The player proposing the rule will by default vote yes unless they say otherwise. Once over half of the eligible voters who didn't Vote: Abstain have voted yes, the proposal is passed. Once either half of the eligible voters who didn't Vote: Abstain have voted no, or the player proposing the rule chooses to end the voting, the proposal fails. If a proposal has been in the voting stage for 36 hours or more and has not been resolved, all players who have not yet voted are not considered eligible voters (for this vote). This effectively ends the vote with only players currently voting.
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Re: f.ds Nomic 1 (Thread 3): liopoil's turn
« Reply #396 on: March 24, 2014, 04:19:58 pm »

Vote: Yes on Rule 358
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Re: f.ds Nomic 1 (Thread 3): liopoil's turn
« Reply #397 on: March 24, 2014, 04:25:48 pm »

Vote: Yes on Rule 358
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Re: f.ds Nomic 1 (Thread 3): liopoil's turn
« Reply #398 on: March 24, 2014, 04:28:22 pm »

Vote: Yes on Rule 358
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Re: f.ds Nomic 1 (Thread 3): liopoil's turn
« Reply #399 on: March 24, 2014, 04:30:04 pm »

This will move 334 to the end of the current ruleset as the new 358 - I don't think that will cause any problems, but a heads-up? Shout loudly if you see a problem with that.
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