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[AndrewisFTTW]

Can't catch up now, I will tonight.

[scott_pilgrim]

Well, that's everyone except Voltaire, who is confirmed town. We can talk about it now, yes?

Mail-mi, the problem with your claim is it puts us in a very tough spot. You must understand that you are in a group of 4 people or so that are more likely to be the SK. A lyncproof, 1-shot BP SK is basically so dangerous... it will take us forever to kill you! I think lynchproof is anti-town or you, even if you are town, because we can't even clear you by lynching you. We would have to lynch you twice.

But, thankfully, I can just shoot you at night. And if there's only one night death, that means my vig shot hit you, a BP SK, and you are the SK.

Unfortunately, if you're the SK, you're now in an awesome place to frame mail-mi.

...And if mail-mi flips town, we know Robz is the SK.

That's not true at all. He might just be a lynchproof townie, like he claims. Him being town doesn't implicate me.

No I'm saying if he doesn't die from your vig shot N3, and we lynch him and he flips town, then you're the SK.  After tonight you're a confirmed IC is what I'm saying because joth's explanation that you might frame mail-mi would force you to lose.

But don't forget we have to lynch him twice in that scenario.  So there's 8 of us left.

Tonight, we lynch someone, neither Robz nor mail-mi. Robz shoots someone else.

Tomorrow, there's 6 of us left. We lynch mail-mi. He doesn't die because he's lynch-proof. RObz shoots someone else.

Next day, 5 of us left. We lynch mail-mi. Robz shoots someone else.

Next day, 3 of us left. I guess that's technically enough to lynch Robz, but boy is it cutting it close.

Yeah, I mean cutting it close doesn't matter though, a win is a win and at that point we will know that Robz is the SK.

I take back what I said about Robz being an IC after tonight though because now I confused myself about it and I'm not sure whether that's the case.

[Axxle]

And as I've said before, and hopefully mcmc confirmed for you, if I was SK with guaranteed PR choice, I would take convert to townie or convert to Survivor. Probably convert to Survivor, claim immediately, sit back and collect an easy win.

I forgot about all this mess.

My question is whether you think that your absolute win ratio is more important, or your win ratio as each faction is more important.  Would rather have a higher win ratio across the board, or have one of the highest win ratios as SK in the forums? I think the latter is more likely.

[jotheonah]

If it's Robz, he can't win. Framing mail-mi doesn't buy him nearly enough days to not get caught, and as soon as mail-mi flips town he's hosed.

[Axxle]

If it's Robz, he can't win. Framing mail-mi doesn't buy him nearly enough days to not get caught, and as soon as mail-mi flips town he's hosed.

He's just going to shoot mail-mi, why bother framing him?

[jotheonah]

+ the dead

Robz888: Pick 1, Slot 1, N3 Vig.

sudgy: Pick 6, Slot 9, 1-shot Alignment Cop.

mcmcsalot: Pick 8, Slot 9, VT

scott_pilgrim: Pick 9, Slot 8, VT (tried for tracker)

AndrewisFTTW: Pick 10, Slot 7, VT (tried for neighborizer).

jotheonah: Pick 11, Slot 3, VT (tried for cop).

Axxle: Pick 13, Slot 6, 1-shot Bus Driver.

mail-mi: Pick 14, Slot 2, 1-shot Lynchproof.

Teproc: Pick ??, Slot 4, 1-shot watcher

XP: Pick ??, Slot ??, Goon

yuma: Pick ??, Slot ??, VT

ADK: Pick ??, Slot 8, Jailkeeper

theorel: Pick ??, Slot ??, VT

ashersky: Pick ??, Slot 3, mafia cop

Anybody else see what I see here?

[Axxle]

+ dead speculation

Robz888: Pick 1, Slot 1, N3 Vig.

ADK: Pick ??, Slot 8, Jailkeeper

ashersky: Pick ??, Slot 3, mafia cop

Teproc: Pick ??, Slot 4, 1-shot watcher

sudgy: Pick 6, Slot 9, 1-shot Alignment Cop.

theorel: Pick 7??, Slot ??, VT

mcmcsalot: Pick 8, Slot 9, VT

scott_pilgrim: Pick 9, Slot 8, VT (tried for tracker)

AndrewisFTTW: Pick 10, Slot 7, VT (tried for neighborizer).

jotheonah: Pick 11, Slot 3, VT (tried for cop).

yuma: Pick 12??, Slot ??, VT

Axxle: Pick 13, Slot 6, 1-shot Bus Driver.

mail-mi: Pick 14, Slot 2, 1-shot Lynchproof.

XP: Pick 15??, Slot 6??, Goon

[Axxle]

Anybody else see what I see here?

That the center bit are terrible at picking slots?

[jotheonah]

Anybody else see what I see here?

That the center bit are terrible at picking slots?

That unless Voltaire got slot 7, Andrew has some explaining to do.

[Robz888]

Anybody else see what I see here?

That the center bit are terrible at picking slots?

That unless Voltaire got slot 7, Andrew has some explaining to do.

Yes, I just saw that.

[Robz888]

Been working on an AWESOME spreadhseet.

[jotheonah]

And actually, even if Voltaire did take Slot 7, who else would try for it?

Neighborizer OR 1-shot Bulletproof OR Convert Serial Killer to Lover

[jotheonah]

Either way, I think we got our man.

[Robz888]

Seems likely.

Obviously, no one protect mail-mi or block me tonight. (Although it doesn't look like anyone has the ability to do that.)

[sudgy]

Vote: Andrew until further notice.  What's the vote count?

[Robz888]

Makes sense for Andrew's draft position, too. If he's 10th, he can't really afford to go for the better SK conversions, which are in more coveted slots. Slot 7 is fairly weak, though, and he has a reasonable chance of getting the lover conversion.

[Axxle]

Vote: Andrew

I invite people to reread robz too though.

[jotheonah]

Of course, SLot 8 is also a serial killer conversion slot, and that's the one scotty went for.

[Axxle]

unvote

what am i doing?

Vote: Robz

[Robz888]

Of course, SLot 8 is also a serial killer conversion slot, and that's the one scotty went for.

He didn't get it, though. If he's the SK, wouldn't he lie about going for a slot with a conversion PR?

[Robz888]

Oh, right, I guess it wasn't necessarily safe for him to do that.

[Robz888]

unvote

what am i doing?

Vote: Robz

I don't know what you're doing.

[Robz888]

I think even if you suspect me, it's insane to lynch me before I can shoot mail-mi. You need me to shoot mail-mi.

[jotheonah]

Axxle, there is zero reason to shoot Robz tonight. Plus I'd be very surprised if our SK wasn't Andrew or scotty at this point, probably Andrew.

[jotheonah]

and by shoot, I meant lynch. promise that's not a scumslip, I was thinking about his vig shot