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Author Topic: ZMX: Blitz Mafia X - The Veteran Games - Mafia Win Flawlessly!  (Read 89668 times)

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Re: ZMX: Blitz Mafia X - The Veteran Games (Day 1)
« Reply #175 on: January 15, 2013, 08:59:24 am »

I don't know, post count?
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Re: ZMX: Blitz Mafia X - The Veteran Games (Day 1)
« Reply #176 on: January 15, 2013, 09:00:48 am »

Post count and compare that to the wagon on qvist to see if anyone looks really scummy.
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Re: ZMX: Blitz Mafia X - The Veteran Games (Day 1)
« Reply #177 on: January 15, 2013, 09:24:54 am »

Maybe we need to go deeper. It's a game full of veterans with short deadlines. Scum are probably not lurking - too risky. So what are they doing?

I think scum will sound rehearsed in this set up. In such a grandiose setup, it seems like it would be tempting to overplan to try to ensure victory.
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Re: ZMX: Blitz Mafia X - The Veteran Games (Day 1)
« Reply #178 on: January 15, 2013, 09:56:44 am »

I was getting drunk is what I was doing!
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Re: ZMX: Blitz Mafia X - The Veteran Games (Day 1)
« Reply #179 on: January 15, 2013, 09:56:54 am »

Post count and compare that to the wagon on qvist to see if anyone looks really scummy.

Qvist is in this game?
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Re: ZMX: Blitz Mafia X - The Veteran Games (Night 0)
« Reply #180 on: January 15, 2013, 10:02:36 am »

So, conflicting. On the other hand I feel like trying to feel it out and being careful with my votes given it's a new setup. On the other hand, no games never get anywhere unless people actually commit to voting for the people they find scummy, so eh. But, the first half of day 1 should run pretty close to how it normally would, except no "lock" situation will ever be reached which never was an issue in blitz in the first place.

I would like EVERYONE to comment on this post and how it reflects on Eevee.

So this was your question, Insom?  I dont actually understand Eevees post.  "I feel we should be careful with our vote but also vote cause we cant lynch anyone if we dont vote for anyone" feels like a nothing statement to me.  Also I dont know what he means by "lock".
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Re: ZMX: Blitz Mafia X - The Veteran Games (Day 1)
« Reply #181 on: January 15, 2013, 10:14:43 am »

Post count and compare that to the wagon on qvist to see if anyone looks really scummy.

Qvist is in this game?

Nope I'm a total newb :( I was combining this game with mafia noir...
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Re: ZMX: Blitz Mafia X - The Veteran Games (Day 1)
« Reply #182 on: January 15, 2013, 10:15:41 am »

Maybe we need to go deeper. It's a game full of veterans with short deadlines. Scum are probably not lurking - too risky. So what are they doing?

I think scum will sound rehearsed in this set up. In such a grandiose setup, it seems like it would be tempting to overplan to try to ensure victory.

Or your defending your lurking scum buddies
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Re: ZMX: Blitz Mafia X - The Veteran Games (Day 1)
« Reply #183 on: January 15, 2013, 10:22:42 am »

Okay. I need to get into this game. So we have ~10 hours to figure out TWO people to lynch, am I right? Do we want to set a deadline for the first one, maybe 1 or 2 hours before deadline?
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Re: ZMX: Blitz Mafia X - The Veteran Games (Day 1)
« Reply #184 on: January 15, 2013, 10:28:53 am »

In answer to Insom's question, I got a nullread from Eevee's post. It's either Town wondering about the setup or scum trying to imitate his Town play, and I don't have a particular leaning one way or another.
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Re: ZMX: Blitz Mafia X - The Veteran Games (Day 1)
« Reply #185 on: January 15, 2013, 10:30:38 am »

Getting your games mixed up is a towntell.

I think my strongest read so far is a town read on mcmc.
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Re: ZMX: Blitz Mafia X - The Veteran Games (Day 1)
« Reply #186 on: January 15, 2013, 10:32:29 am »

I also asked how people fel about robz/Galz/mcmc regarding the instant win debacle. Ill add one more question. I have a scum read. Who is it
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Re: ZMX: Blitz Mafia X - The Veteran Games (Day 1)
« Reply #187 on: January 15, 2013, 10:33:28 am »

Also, I don't attribute reactions to the game-break as either Towny or scummy. I think both would have reacted the same way.

FoS joth for accusing the fourth post of the game as IIoA and posting to get the post count up.
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Re: ZMX: Blitz Mafia X - The Veteran Games (Day 1)
« Reply #188 on: January 15, 2013, 10:42:39 am »

I also asked how people fel about robz/Galz/mcmc regarding the instant win debacle. Ill add one more question. I have a scum read. Who is it

I'm going to guess either Munch or jo?
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Re: ZMX: Blitz Mafia X - The Veteran Games (Day 1)
« Reply #189 on: January 15, 2013, 10:43:40 am »

Well I'm off to bed. I should be back and available around 3 hours before deadline.
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Re: ZMX: Blitz Mafia X - The Veteran Games (Day 1)
« Reply #190 on: January 15, 2013, 10:44:37 am »

I also asked how people fel about robz/Galz/mcmc regarding the instant win debacle. Ill add one more question. I have a scum read. Who is it

I'm going to guess either Munch or jo?

I think either myself or Jimmmmmm. It's probably someone who's actually contributing, rather than one of the many lurkers.
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Re: ZMX: Blitz Mafia X - The Veteran Games (Day 1)
« Reply #191 on: January 15, 2013, 10:47:06 am »

Yay I agree with Jimm, I also find joth scummy for buddying me. As for your top scum read, joth or robz?
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Re: ZMX: Blitz Mafia X - The Veteran Games (Day 1)
« Reply #192 on: January 15, 2013, 10:48:51 am »

Well I'm off to bed. I should be back and available around 3 hours before deadline.

So your in an opposite time zone to me, this would explain why you don't answer questions when I expect you to.
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Re: ZMX: Blitz Mafia X - The Veteran Games (Day 1)
« Reply #193 on: January 15, 2013, 10:52:59 am »

I also asked how people fel about robz/Galz/mcmc regarding the instant win debacle. Ill add one more question. I have a scum read. Who is it

Oh Robz's slip with the what plan to say and his back and forth with Eevee?  The back and forth with Eevee was interesting cause it felt like Eevee was trying to make Robz slip up but all of Robz's responses seemed genuine.

Idk I'm trying to to give too much wait to discussion of game breaking scenarios, especially if they have been discussed by the mods now.  My biggest concern out of all of that was that while yes town could win given a certain series of votes whatever, it could also give scum a free mislynch.  I dont really care too much to talk about the game breaking strategy stuff.

Maybe I'm just vain but I thought my idea was better!!  I think we should talk about my idea some more!
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Re: ZMX: Blitz Mafia X - The Veteran Games (Day 1)
« Reply #194 on: January 15, 2013, 11:02:16 am »

I also asked how people fel about robz/Galz/mcmc regarding the instant win debacle. Ill add one more question. I have a scum read. Who is it

Oh Robz's slip with the what plan to say and his back and forth with Eevee?  The back and forth with Eevee was interesting cause it felt like Eevee was trying to make Robz slip up but all of Robz's responses seemed genuine.

Idk I'm trying to to give too much wait to discussion of game breaking scenarios, especially if they have been discussed by the mods now.  My biggest concern out of all of that was that while yes town could win given a certain series of votes whatever, it could also give scum a free mislynch.  I dont really care too much to talk about the game breaking strategy stuff.

Maybe I'm just vain but I thought my idea was better!!  I think we should talk about my idea some more!


No, when the 4 of us were discussing how the game is broken how they reacted to its imminent implementation. Bonus points I have two town reads, who are they
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Re: ZMX: Blitz Mafia X - The Veteran Games (Day 1)
« Reply #195 on: January 15, 2013, 11:04:05 am »

Munch I love your plan, I think we have to come up with our two lynch candidates for D1. Then we make our second candidate hammer the first one. This gives us the flip on one and of we're wrong the flip on two. This is the most likey chance of lynching one mafia. Then with our knowledge we find a third scum candidate and either have him lynch candidate number 2 assuming #1 was town or have candidate number 4 hammer candidate number 3.

This is the most logical plan to kill the most mafia.

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Re: ZMX: Blitz Mafia X - The Veteran Games (Day 1)
« Reply #196 on: January 15, 2013, 11:05:14 am »

I like McMc's comment.  This is an approach I hadn't thought of.  I like it.
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Re: ZMX: Blitz Mafia X - The Veteran Games (Day 1)
« Reply #197 on: January 15, 2013, 11:08:51 am »

Everyone needs to participate to get this plan going, it requires absolute compliance from town members as it logicall benefits us, but if people don't cooperate ie hammering people when we need you too, it goes bad quick, hopefully anyone not willing to cooperate becomes obvi scum.if you have questions or problems with the plan bring them out now so we can deal with it rather than at hammer tome
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Re: ZMX: Blitz Mafia X - The Veteran Games (Day 1)
« Reply #198 on: January 15, 2013, 11:14:00 am »

We need to hear more from cuzz, galz, eevee, robz on this. I've heard galz is a great scum hunter and town player I'm interested in his number 1 and 2 scum reads.

Also joth who do you find scummy, lots I people find you scummy including me but you are participating which is helpful.
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Re: ZMX: Blitz Mafia X - The Veteran Games (Day 1)
« Reply #199 on: January 15, 2013, 11:15:14 am »

MCMC if we're wrong we learn nothing about the hammer, we only learn about the hammer if they ARE scum.
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