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[ashersky]

Thread still locked, momentarily.  A rules clarification will be posted, then opening day flavor.

[ashersky]

I received only one question over the past 24 hours.

What happens when the first person gets lynched during the day?

A 3-step process is in place for handling the first lynch of the day.  All mods are aware of this procedure and will follow it.  This procedure is in place to ensure dead players have fair warning before they are "officially dead" and don't post, causing a modkill.

Once the hammer vote has been cast, the following will happen:

1.  A final vote count will be posted highlighting the lynched player.
2.  A separate mod post will be posted stating "Mod will post the flip imminently. This is your warning that twilight is ending."
3.  The flip will be posted.  If the lynched player was mafia, the hammerer will also be killed in this post.  From that post on, any player who flipped in that post MAY NOT POST.

Vote counts are reset after the first lynch of the day.


Please remember that, with all of the rules modifications, mods will have a busy time keeping up with the votes.  Be sure to point out errors so we can fix them.

[ashersky]

The lights turned on in the arena.  It looked like a sun.  Nine humans woke up around a picnic table centered in a field.

Greetings, humans.  Ignore the deja vu.  Your names are Robz888, Eevee, Galzria, Insomniac, jotheonah, Jimmmmm, theMunch, Cuzz, and mcmcsalot.  You must find the mafia among you, and you must do it through death.

We trust in your abilities.  So much so, that you have unlimited votes, and we will wait for two deaths before putting you into stasis.  Find the two mafia hidden among you.  Listen to Insomniac, for he is an Innocent among you.

But be careful.  We have implanted the evil ones with explosives.  The good among you will need to make a sacrifice for the survival of humanity.

Oh yes, I forgot.  We're hovering over Earth.  And we will destroy it if you fail.

Day 1 has begun.  With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

[ashersky]

Vote Count 1.0:

Robz888 (0) -
Eevee (0) -
Galzria (0) -
Insomniac (0) -
jotheonah (0) -
Jimmmmm (0) -
TheMunch (0) -
Cuzz (0) -
mcmcsalot (0) -

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.  Day 1 ends on Tuesday, January 15 at 4:30 p.m. forum time.

[Eevee]

This is the good die young.

[Insomniac]

So yea...I'm the IC again. and I'm gonna try to not blow it like I have been recently.

[Insomniac]

For obvious reasons I will NOT be the hammer vote on any player, and any player attempting to make me the hammer/asking me to hammer is scum.

[Eevee]

So, conflicting. On the other hand I feel like trying to feel it out and being careful with my votes given it's a new setup. On the other hand, no games never get anywhere unless people actually commit to voting for the people they find scummy, so eh. But, the first half of day 1 should run pretty close to how it normally would, except no "lock" situation will ever be reached which never was an issue in blitz in the first place.

[Robz888]

New setup! Should I vote for everyone, and then unvote myself and Insomniac?

[Robz888]

That way, I vote for scum at least.

[Eevee]

Has someone given this a lot of thought?

[Insomniac]

@Ash what happens if 4 people are at l-1 and I hammer all 4 with a "Vote: All"

[Robz888]

@Ash what happens if 4 people are at l-1 and I hammer all 4 with a "Vote: All"

I think it's a tie, and they all die. Right? No that can't be. Or else we could just do this, you could kill all non-you people, and you win.

[Insomniac]

@Ash what happens if 4 people are at l-1 and I hammer all 4 with a "Vote: All"

I think it's a tie, and they all die. Right? No that can't be. Or else we could just do this, you could kill all non-you people, and you win.

Thats why I want to know because if we can do that great. If not I want to know what happens.

[Robz888]

@Ash what happens if 4 people are at l-1 and I hammer all 4 with a "Vote: All"

I think it's a tie, and they all die. Right? No that can't be. Or else we could just do this, you could kill all non-you people, and you win.

Thats why I want to know because if we can do that great. If not I want to know what happens.

The mafia would vengekill you, though. So... tie?

[Insomniac]

@Ash what happens if 4 people are at l-1 and I hammer all 4 with a "Vote: All"

I think it's a tie, and they all die. Right? No that can't be. Or else we could just do this, you could kill all non-you people, and you win.

Thats why I want to know because if we can do that great. If not I want to know what happens.

The mafia would vengekill you, though. So... tie?

TECHNICALLY No, the town wins when all threats to the town are eliminated which happens before the mafia gets a vengekill.

[ashersky]

@Ash what happens if 4 people are at l-1 and I hammer all 4 with a "Vote: All"

They would all die.  If there were mafia among the 4, you would also die.

Also, I think that breaks the point of the game, so that's lame.

[Insomniac]

@Ash what happens if 4 people are at l-1 and I hammer all 4 with a "Vote: All"

They would all die.  If there were mafia among the 4, you would also die.

Also, I think that breaks the point of the game, so that's lame.

Am I correct in my understanding that if all non me people were at l-1 and I hammered everyone town wins before I get vengekilled?

[ashersky]

TECHNICALLY No, the town wins when all threats to the town are eliminated which happens before the mafia gets a vengekill.

This is a good point, and is something I inadvertently left off the win condition that should have been there.  Generally speaking, town's win condition implicitly (or explicitly) includes the "someone left alive" clause.  That should have been explicit in the PMs, given the set up.  Apologies.

I'll confer with the mods, but I'll just suggest not doing it.

@Ash what happens if 4 people are at l-1 and I hammer all 4 with a "Vote: All"

They would all die.  If there were mafia among the 4, you would also die.

Also, I think that breaks the point of the game, so that's lame.

Am I correct in my understanding that if all non me people were at l-1 and I hammered everyone town wins before I get vengekilled?

You would die and no one wins.  And Earth is destroyed.

Again, I'll confer with the mods, as we didn't foresee this being a plausible option.

[Robz888]

@Ash what happens if 4 people are at l-1 and I hammer all 4 with a "Vote: All"

They would all die.  If there were mafia among the 4, you would also die.

Also, I think that breaks the point of the game, so that's lame.

Am I correct in my understanding that if all non me people were at l-1 and I hammered everyone town wins before I get vengekilled?

Insomniac, here's what you need to do. You need to pick someone who you don't think is mafia. That's it: just find one person who isn't mafia. We'll call him Player X. Then, order everyone else to vote everyone EXCEPT you and Player X. Then, Player X hammers everyone except you and himself. The mafia vengekill Player X, you are the only person alive, and town wins. If Player X is town.

[Insomniac]

So I suppose the EASY method then is to decide on ONE townie along with me, and hammer everyone except that person and myself

[mcmcsalot]

Insome leave yourself out of everything, mafia has to vengekill the hammer, I'll be happy to lay the hammer on everyone but insom and get vengekiled. Then insom lives and we win?

[mcmcsalot]

Ill self vote along with it if it matters

[Insomniac]

MCMC makes even more sense.

[Robz888]

MCMC makes even more sense.

Wait. Yes, if the hammering player hammers himself, too, the mafia can't vengekill anyone. And Insomniac lives, and town wins.

Ash, I think the setup needs remediation.