So Throne Room - Hireling gives you 2 cards each turn forever.
What does Procession - Hireling do???
My current thought is that any when-gain that changes the destination of a card (as long as you actually end up getting it into your possession, and not, say, trashing it) is just rerouting it; the card doesn't visit where it was trying to go. So to me, gain destinations should be the only exception to lose-track (provided it doesn't get covered up in the meantime).I'm not quite sure what I'm being asked. "No visiting" is a real thing, Transmogrify's gain does not visit the discard pile, it goes straight to your hand. It is not trying to have a novel phrasing, just to be phrased well.
I would defer to Donald X, though, of course.
Is there a harder counter to Ghost Ship in the game than Guide?
Moat?
You would have gotten a +1 if that was actually true. But in fact Guide is better against Ghost Ship than Moat.
The only real drawback is the turn it gets played. Then it's a blocked Tournament.
AKA a Ruined Village?
I suppose that would have been simpler.
You know, the vanilla portion of Goons is basically just a Festival without the +Actions.
It's also a Ruined Village without the +Action and with the +1 Buy, +$2.
The only real drawback is the turn it gets played. Then it's a blocked Tournament.
AKA a Ruined Village?
I suppose that would have been simpler.Still too situational. Royal Seal not that much better than silver, and while this is a little better since you know what's in your hand - look, it's not like this will be AWFUL, but I still don't think it's actually strong.This card seems weak to me. Getting to do it whenever is nice flexibility, sure, but it's less than Remodel, and Remodel isn't great to start with. Sure, this isn't terminal, that helps a lot... I am sure there will be spots of this, like develop maybe (kind of; develop is more about getting you more cards and can also straight trash coppers), it can be a role player, but I think it will be pretty weak overall.
Getting the new card right into your hand seems like it would be a big deal though. Did you miss that, or are you saying that it's still too situational?
As somebody who never playtested this, i predict it's much better than you think. Remodel is not only terminal, it reduces your handsize by two when you actually use it and needs to collide. This DOES reduce your handsize, but only by one, and instead improves another card in your hand. I think we learned from Tactician that one great turn is better than two mediocre ones.
Still too situational. Royal Seal not that much better than silver, and while this is a little better since you know what's in your hand - look, it's not like this will be AWFUL, but I still don't think it's actually strong.This card seems weak to me. Getting to do it whenever is nice flexibility, sure, but it's less than Remodel, and Remodel isn't great to start with. Sure, this isn't terminal, that helps a lot... I am sure there will be spots of this, like develop maybe (kind of; develop is more about getting you more cards and can also straight trash coppers), it can be a role player, but I think it will be pretty weak overall.
Getting the new card right into your hand seems like it would be a big deal though. Did you miss that, or are you saying that it's still too situational?
As somebody who never playtested this, i predict it's much better than you think. Remodel is not only terminal, it reduces your handsize by two when you actually use it and needs to collide. This DOES reduce your handsize, but only by one, and instead improves another card in your hand. I think we learned from Tactician that one great turn is better than two mediocre ones.
The upper panel art suggests it will come with the new base cards.
Pearl Torpedo
$2 Action-Attack
+1 Card
+1 Action
Each opponent reveals the bottom card of their deck. You may choose to place in on top of their deck.
Princing a Guide gives the exact same effect as just playing the Guide, except for moving the +1 Action to another turn. You sacrifice a card draw on one turn to draw one more on the next. And all that was worth wasting your Prince?
Interestingly, it's not that hard to think of edge cases for this one. Of course the same could go for Fishing Village or Caravan. But if you know that your next hand will have 2 very important terminals and no Village, you could totally want to do that.
But in most cases, if you're desperate enough for a village to Prince a cantrip... why not just use Prince as the "village" and Prince your terminals?
Princing a Guide gives the exact same effect as just playing the Guide, except for moving the +1 Action to another turn. You sacrifice a card draw on one turn to draw one more on the next. And all that was worth wasting your Prince?
"Start of your turn"
How does Guide interact with Durations and Prince?
Do I resolve Guide before or after Tactician draw for example? (After would be a poor choice - swapping 10 for 5, but cleaning up the first five and then drawing another five for Tactician would be nice.)
You choose!
Can you use Guide's mulligan ability in the exact turn you played via Prince?
(Okay, if you want something more realistic: via a Princed Throne Room/ Herald)
The only reasonable answer is yes. Princeing a Guide doesn't work, but if a Guide got played by a Princed card, you'd be able to call that Guide after the Princed card resolved (or after doing some other start-of-turn effects).
I think both answers are reasonable. To argue for the other one; Guide wasn't on your Tavern Mat at the start of your turn. So when the list of things that happen at "start of turn" is made, Guide isn't on that list.
That's not how Dominion works, though. Your Moat may not be in your hand when somebody plays an Attack card, but if you put one into your hand via Secret Chamber you can still reveal it afterward.
EDIT: Also, you never decide the complete order of simultaneous effects in Dominion before doing them. You do one, then decide which one to do next.
Can you use Guide's mulligan ability in the exact turn you played via Prince?
(Okay, if you want something more realistic: via a Princed Throne Room/ Herald)
The only reasonable answer is yes. Princeing a Guide doesn't work, but if a Guide got played by a Princed card, you'd be able to call that Guide after the Princed card resolved (or after doing some other start-of-turn effects).
Princeing a Guide works too, you just play the Guide once and then it goes on the Tavern Mat then Prince finishes doing it's thing and then you could call it immediately. The Prince is then stuck doing nothing.
"Start of your turn"
How does Guide interact with Durations and Prince?
Do I resolve Guide before or after Tactician draw for example? (After would be a poor choice - swapping 10 for 5, but cleaning up the first five and then drawing another five for Tactician would be nice.)
You choose!
Can you use Guide's mulligan ability in the exact turn you played via Prince?
(Okay, if you want something more realistic: via a Princed Throne Room/ Herald)
The only reasonable answer is yes. Princeing a Guide doesn't work, but if a Guide got played by a Princed card, you'd be able to call that Guide after the Princed card resolved (or after doing some other start-of-turn effects).
"Start of your turn"
How does Guide interact with Durations and Prince?
Do I resolve Guide before or after Tactician draw for example? (After would be a poor choice - swapping 10 for 5, but cleaning up the first five and then drawing another five for Tactician would be nice.)
You choose!
Can you use Guide's mulligan ability in the exact turn you played via Prince?
(Okay, if you want something more realistic: via a Princed Throne Room/ Herald)
I don't foresee this comma discussion going anywhere. So hey, how about these great new cards?
I underbuy Duplicate and am generally in the camp that thinks it looks weak. You can call it on the turn you play it, but it hurts your buying power by being a dead terminal that turn. And it can miss a shuffle while you're waiting for it to really pay off. But the potential benefit from Duplicate is great, even without cost reducers. I particularly like calling multiple Duplicates on the same gain.
"Start of your turn"
How does Guide interact with Durations and Prince?
Do I resolve Guide before or after Tactician draw for example? (After would be a poor choice - swapping 10 for 5, but cleaning up the first five and then drawing another five for Tactician would be nice.)
I'd been wondering what the new card color would be! Man, the gradient on that Treasure-Reserve is subtle. I'm also surprised it's called a Tavern Mat and not a Reserve Mat. I feel like Dominion usually chooses straightforwardness over flavorfulness. (It's a VP mat not a Landowner's Mat or something.) I wonder what the Tavern Mat art will look like. It also seems counterintuitive that calling cards doesn't put them in play, but I'm guessing this was to balance Peddler, Horn of Plenty, etc.
Coin of the realm is probably my favorite card in adventures, and that's saying a lot because I really like a lot of the cards. DXV is basically a genius for coming up with this card the way it is, it's just so beautiful the way you build your deck very differently to get the most out of it.LF is the one who suggested making it a treasure. I had it as an action, but it was tricky finding a good spot relative to other villages.
Congrats to LF, then. Being a Treasure is a great niche for this; it reminds me of Merchant Guild, in that the benefit is just a bit too late to use it this turn.
