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[MiX]

Ok so obvious downside.
1 - you need but can’t give.
2 - you can give but don’t need.
3 - you can give and

Claiming what you need or can give is a bad idea. It is actually probably worse than actually claiming what you have to give and what you need. I don’t think that is a good idea either.

Also - as the listed VT role is about giving items and there are a tone of people with items we should probably assume that skum could have the ability to steal items, or intercept, or block or something.

I don't get it. If scum can block item passing, but the items don't do anything if they're not together...then scum can't actually do anything useful. Besides, this is much better than randomly giving away items, scum's going to try to steal/intercept/whatever anyway, this is a way for town to not just have fruit vendors.

[WestCoastDidds]

I need something. Whomever has it will likely want to be sure before they give it to the right person. Whomever has it now probably can’t do anything with it.  It has two words.

I also have something that I cannot use, but is valuable to whomever can.

About the second item, assuming the person that needs it is town, would you want to give them your item or them give you their item?

This is the best question I can think about without asking Glooble if it's ok.

Personally, I’d prefer to give it to some other townsperson

[MiX]

I need something. Whomever has it will likely want to be sure before they give it to the right person. Whomever has it now probably can’t do anything with it.  It has two words.

I also have something that I cannot use, but is valuable to whomever can.

About the second item, assuming the person that needs it is town, would you want to give them your item or them give you their item?

This is the best question I can think about without asking Glooble if it's ok.

Personally, I’d prefer to give it to some other townsperson

How much do you think I know what it is based on my question? Because I'm about 80% sure you have what I need, but I might be biased.

[WestCoastDidds]

In regard to the second one, why do you think I’d rather give than receive?

[MiX]

In regard to the second one, why do you think I’d rather give than receive?

Because you are Didds.

I'm going off to bed now, if you want a better answer, say so.

[Swowl]

Ok so obvious downside.
1 - you need but can’t give.
2 - you can give but don’t need.
3 - you can give and

Claiming what you need or can give is a bad idea. It is actually probably worse than actually claiming what you have to give and what you need. I don’t think that is a good idea either.

Also - as the listed VT role is about giving items and there are a tone of people with items we should probably assume that skum could have the ability to steal items, or intercept, or block or something.

I don't get it. If scum can block item passing, but the items don't do anything if they're not together...then scum can't actually do anything useful. Besides, this is much better than randomly giving away items, scum's going to try to steal/intercept/whatever anyway, this is a way for town to not just have fruit vendors.

What?
Skum can block items. We claim who have items to give. We claim who needs items. Skum blocks that from happening? Idk if it’s even a thing, it is assuredly the smallest point of what i was making.

And yes it would be better to randomly give items away without knowing what item someone actually needs other than actually knowing you are giving something useful to someone.

Is it my phrasing - i don’t get your confusion on this.

[WestCoastDidds]

In regard to the second one, why do you think I’d rather give than receive?

Because you are Didds.

I'm going off to bed now, if you want a better answer, say so.

Oh, MiX. We’ve come so far together in the last year.

You could also give or receive but would prefer to receive because you’re MiX?

[sudgy]

scum's going to try to steal/intercept/whatever anyway,

I rest my case.

[Swowl]

scum's going to try to steal/intercept/whatever anyway,

I rest my case.

yeah I am not anywhere near the rest my case stand point, but MiX I think you need to think this one through a little more

[faust]

I like Vote: Galzria.

The plan is not good. Much easier for scum to find the items they are looking for and/or prevent the items from reaching their intended target than it is for town to discreetly interchange them.

That's not to say that some sort of plan wouldn't be good.

[faust]

Claiming what we need is probably more useful to us than claiming what we have, is what I'm thinking.

[LaLight]

I need something. Whomever has it will likely want to be sure before they give it to the right person. Whomever has it now probably can’t do anything with it.  It has two words.

I also have something that I cannot use, but is valuable to whomever can.

I have it. Fits everything

[Joseph2302]

In regard to the second one, why do you think I’d rather give than receive?

Because you are Didds.

I'm going off to bed now, if you want a better answer, say so.

Oh, MiX. We’ve come so far together in the last year.

You could also give or receive but would prefer to receive because you’re MiX?

Feel like there's an in joke being missed here

[Joseph2302]

Claiming what we need is probably more useful to us than claiming what we have, is what I'm thinking.

Agreed, but I still don't think we should do it right now

[MiX]

In regard to the second one, why do you think I’d rather give than receive?

Because you are Didds.

I'm going off to bed now, if you want a better answer, say so.

Oh, MiX. We’ve come so far together in the last year.

You could also give or receive but would prefer to receive because you’re MiX?

Yeah, I guess. Although you giving it to me makes it better than someone else giving it to me.

Ok so obvious downside.
1 - you need but can’t give.
2 - you can give but don’t need.
3 - you can give and

Claiming what you need or can give is a bad idea. It is actually probably worse than actually claiming what you have to give and what you need. I don’t think that is a good idea either.

Also - as the listed VT role is about giving items and there are a tone of people with items we should probably assume that skum could have the ability to steal items, or intercept, or block or something.

I don't get it. If scum can block item passing, but the items don't do anything if they're not together...then scum can't actually do anything useful. Besides, this is much better than randomly giving away items, scum's going to try to steal/intercept/whatever anyway, this is a way for town to not just have fruit vendors.

What?
Skum can block items. We claim who have items to give. We claim who needs items. Skum blocks that from happening? Idk if it’s even a thing, it is assuredly the smallest point of what i was making.

And yes it would be better to randomly give items away without knowing what item someone actually needs other than actually knowing you are giving something useful to someone.

Is it my phrasing - i don’t get your confusion on this.

My point is, if we randomly give items away, they'll never reach their intended destination. And if we do that, scum can still do their scum actions to try to intercept the items or w/e. We should be finding out who has the item we need, or if we have the item that someone else wants. Does scum end up getting items because of this, yes, but they would anyway if it were random.

I need something. Whomever has it will likely want to be sure before they give it to the right person. Whomever has it now probably can’t do anything with it.  It has two words.

I also have something that I cannot use, but is valuable to whomever can.

I have it. Fits everything

Why say it then? Just give it away.

[MiX]

I know I'm having a bit too much fun item finding, but joth is still scum. So...vote for him. He's not coming from town's perspective.

[WestCoastDidds]

What did Joth do?

Asking for realz....I forgot he was playing

[MiX]

I need stuff! I have stuff! I dig the whole mixed up files of Mrs. Basil Frankweiler vibe!

Needing stuff AND having stuff seems OP. Probably SK. vote: Didds

Scummy vote, not town thinking, didn't get a town role.

We also have to make sure we don’t break the rules about secret codes. This plan doesn’t run afoul of the no cryptography rule does it?

Trying to stop town from continuing the plan by force. Scum behavior.

Kinda weak, but good enough for an early vote.

[WestCoastDidds]

I am defaulting to a modified version of Skip’s plan....

If you need something, let folks know what you need. I don’t think you need to use a specific word to try to hide it in the message, but it needs to be specific enough so that it makes sense to whomever has it.

If you have something, There’s no need to let folks know what you have, or to let the person who needs it know you have it. You can choose to give it or no, depending on how you feel about the towniness of who needs it.

One way that we might be able to stave off scum intercepting the necessary exchanges is for folks who do not have an item, or know their item is not the needed item to engage in back and forth about an item so that the real conversations can be hidden among the other conversations.

Since this is a bastard game, there are also probably items of negative utility...let’s give those to the baddies.

So, I think way more conversations about stuff would benefit us most. Chaos! Let’s do it!

[WestCoastDidds]

I need stuff! I have stuff! I dig the whole mixed up files of Mrs. Basil Frankweiler vibe!

Needing stuff AND having stuff seems OP. Probably SK. vote: Didds

Scummy vote, not town thinking, didn't get a town role.

We also have to make sure we don’t break the rules about secret codes. This plan doesn’t run afoul of the no cryptography rule does it?

Trying to stop town from continuing the plan by force. Scum behavior.

Kinda weak, but good enough for an early vote.

Hmmmm.... and Joth is definitely smart enough to know that using words of items is not cryptography

[WestCoastDidds]

In regard to the second one, why do you think I’d rather give than receive?

Because you are Didds.

I'm going off to bed now, if you want a better answer, say so.

Oh, MiX. We’ve come so far together in the last year.

You could also give or receive but would prefer to receive because you’re MiX?

Feel like there's an in joke being missed here

Eh, not a joke so much as a recognition that MiX and I have come along way in our regard for one another. In our first game I let myself get sideways about something that stemmed from his aggressive play style. In many subsequent games he has (probably) been annoyed that I am as interested in talking as in playing and it took him a minute to recognize that is legit part of my personality and not scum behavior. I feel like Mix’s style has really grown over the last year, and for him to say that he’d suppose my desire to give or receive a particular item is tied to be sense of self is particularly astute.

I think that at this point, I genuinely enjoy MiX and am glad to see him in a game. I think maybe that is reciprocal.

[MiX]

In regard to the second one, why do you think I’d rather give than receive?

Because you are Didds.

I'm going off to bed now, if you want a better answer, say so.

Oh, MiX. We’ve come so far together in the last year.

You could also give or receive but would prefer to receive because you’re MiX?

Feel like there's an in joke being missed here

Eh, not a joke so much as a recognition that MiX and I have come along way in our regard for one another. In our first game I let myself get sideways about something that stemmed from his aggressive play style. In many subsequent games he has (probably) been annoyed that I am as interested in talking as in playing and it took him a minute to recognize that is legit part of my personality and not scum behavior. I feel like Mix’s style has really grown over the last year, and for him to say that he’d suppose my desire to give or receive a particular item is tied to be sense of self is particularly astute.

I think that at this point, I genuinely enjoy MiX and am glad to see him in a game. I think maybe that is reciprocal.

<3

But my questions, and answers, are all about the item I need. And there's something specific that I learned about you that would make you answer the way you did.

So, hmm, we should stop talking about it, but if you think you have the item I need, send it over. Otherwise we can drop the subject. If you're not sure...I trust your judgement.

[WestCoastDidds]

Vote: scolapasta

Where you at, dude?

[WestCoastDidds]

Vote: scolapasta

Where you at, dude?

Again, and in bold this time!

[Joseph2302]

Or actually, nobody else with items to give has to do this.

Everybody who needs an item can use the word in a post in the next 48 hours, and all the givers need to do is pay attention.

If you like that version better.

Lol, an interesting theory