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Re: RMM13: Wheel of Time Mafia! (Day 1 start!)
« Reply #150 on: March 26, 2014, 08:01:15 am »

Would some kind of DaySK work?

I seriously doubt that. At least if they only have their day shot. As scum, I think you absolutely need to be able to take dangerous players out of the game without everyone knowing that they are out of the game.

A SK that is DayVig additionally to his night kill could work if properly balanced, I think.

Yeah, I was thinking a similar thing. Maybe some kind of x-shot Day y-shot Night SK or something. Seems pretty unlikely though.
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Re: RMM13: Wheel of Time Mafia! (Day 1 start!)
« Reply #151 on: March 26, 2014, 08:24:21 am »

Would some kind of DaySK work?
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Re: RMM13: Wheel of Time Mafia! (Day 1 start!)
« Reply #152 on: March 26, 2014, 08:40:10 am »

Would some kind of DaySK work?
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For implying that yuma is someone that we might want to lynch.

How is evaluating someone's claim voteworthy? I said it's pretty unlikely. I'd love to have an IC, but giving someone IC status without considering alternative explanations would be downright stupid. I think at this stage (obviously pending actually seeing him use his power), yuma's pretty close.
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Re: RMM13: Wheel of Time Mafia! (Day 1 start!)
« Reply #153 on: March 26, 2014, 09:07:13 am »

So I take it all day powers are visible to everyone?
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Re: RMM13: Wheel of Time Mafia! (Day 1 start!)
« Reply #154 on: March 26, 2014, 09:25:46 am »

So I take it all day powers are visible to everyone?
Yes. At least every daypower have come across have been.
The player using his power post a command in bold, and then the mod usually confirms in some way that something has happened.
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Re: RMM13: Wheel of Time Mafia! (Day 1 start!)
« Reply #155 on: March 26, 2014, 09:27:47 am »

Would some kind of DaySK work?
Vote: jimm
For implying that yuma is someone that we might want to lynch.

How is evaluating someone's claim voteworthy? I said it's pretty unlikely. I'd love to have an IC, but giving someone IC status without considering alternative explanations would be downright stupid. I think at this stage (obviously pending actually seeing him use his power), yuma's pretty close.
Getting defensive?
I take that as a sign that I might be on to something with my vote on you.
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Re: RMM13: Wheel of Time Mafia! (Day 1 start!)
« Reply #156 on: March 26, 2014, 09:30:22 am »

Sadly, I have no idea at all about Wheel of Time. So let me ask: in the context of the flavor, would you consider Mordeth a bad guy or a good guy?
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Re: RMM13: Wheel of Time Mafia! (Day 1 start!)
« Reply #157 on: March 26, 2014, 09:39:40 am »

Sadly, I have no idea at all about Wheel of Time. So let me ask: in the context of the flavor, would you consider Mordeth a bad guy or a good guy?

Definitely third faction.  Mordeth (who merged with the Darkfriend Padan Fain) is the cause of the corruption of Shadar Logoth.  Shadar Logoth is a place feared by the Light and Dark alike.  It's kind of like a force of independent evil.  Mordeth did, however, partner up with the Dark One, in a way, towards the end of the series.  But I think he was still his own device and working to his own ends.

Basically, everyone is afraid of Mordeth, even Myrddraal and the Forsaken.
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Re: RMM13: Wheel of Time Mafia! (Day 1 start!)
« Reply #158 on: March 26, 2014, 09:40:41 am »

Does this mean you're Mordeth?
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Re: RMM13: Wheel of Time Mafia! (Day 1 start!)
« Reply #159 on: March 26, 2014, 09:49:17 am »

Sadly, I have no idea at all about Wheel of Time. So let me ask: in the context of the flavor, would you consider Mordeth a bad guy or a good guy?

Definitely third faction.  Mordeth (who merged with the Darkfriend Padan Fain) is the cause of the corruption of Shadar Logoth.  Shadar Logoth is a place feared by the Light and Dark alike.  It's kind of like a force of independent evil.  Mordeth did, however, partner up with the Dark One, in a way, towards the end of the series.  But I think he was still his own device and working to his own ends.

Basically, everyone is afraid of Mordeth, even Myrddraal and the Forsaken.
I take it you know flavor.

What's funny is that we always go down this road.

Someone suggests a mass or semi-mass claim.  Some people are against it, others are for it, some are in the middle.  Invariably someone else says don't even talk about it as it will give away too much information just by talking about it.  And then we talk about it some more.

Even me saying "let's treat it as vanilla" didn't get people to not talk about it.  Plus yuma claimed.  At this point, if you are a dayvig, probably worth counterclaiming yuma, otherwise probably not.

Of course, the flip side of all this is that the claiming discussion is at least discussion, and it gets the game going.

Yeah; this road is pretty unavoidable it seems.  I'm much more ambivalent about this than I've been before.  Basically, do what you want.  And don't lie.

(I guess you could lie as town, too.)

Don't lie as town.  Just don't.  Ever.  Please.

This.

Catching scum in a lie is one the best methods we have for finding badguys in RMM.
We have won many games on the assumption that town never lies. Lying as town ruin this tool.
yeah; you'd have to be craaazy to lie.  just crraaaazzzzy.


Vote: yuma

So, what's this?

Vote: sudgy
yeah! what IS this?  Or that?!?
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Re: RMM13: Wheel of Time Mafia! (Day 1 start!)
« Reply #160 on: March 26, 2014, 09:51:07 am »

Would some kind of DaySK work?
Vote: jimm
For implying that yuma is someone that we might want to lynch.

How is evaluating someone's claim voteworthy? I said it's pretty unlikely. I'd love to have an IC, but giving someone IC status without considering alternative explanations would be downright stupid. I think at this stage (obviously pending actually seeing him use his power), yuma's pretty close.
Getting defensive?
I take that as a sign that I might be on to something with my vote on you.

Nope, just calling you out on your terrible reasoning.
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Re: RMM13: Wheel of Time Mafia! (Day 1 start!)
« Reply #161 on: March 26, 2014, 09:54:43 am »

Yeah, I like Wheel of Time, that's why I wanted to join this :)

The other option for a third faction is The Children of the Light.  The character could be Lord Commander or High Inquisitor or something.  These guys are basically Crusades or Spanish Inquisition types that believe they're doing the work of the Light, but really they just accuse, unjustly try, and kill whomever they don't like, which is pretty much everyone who is not them.  If you read the books, they're real pricks.  They cause just as much trouble for the good guys as the bad guys do.
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Re: RMM13: Wheel of Time Mafia! (Day 1 start!)
« Reply #162 on: March 26, 2014, 09:56:06 am »

Does this mean you're Mordeth?

If I was Mordeth, I think I would know what kind of guy I am.
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Re: RMM13: Wheel of Time Mafia! (Day 1 start!)
« Reply #163 on: March 26, 2014, 09:57:24 am »

Does this mean you're Mordeth?

If I was Mordeth, I think I would know what kind of guy I am.

But if you don't know anything about Wheel of Time, how did you know of Mordeth?
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Re: RMM13: Wheel of Time Mafia! (Day 1 start!)
« Reply #164 on: March 26, 2014, 10:07:18 am »

Yeah, I like Wheel of Time, that's why I wanted to join this :)

The other option for a third faction is The Children of the Light.  The character could be Lord Commander or High Inquisitor or something.  These guys are basically Crusades or Spanish Inquisition types that believe they're doing the work of the Light, but really they just accuse, unjustly try, and kill whomever they don't like, which is pretty much everyone who is not them.  If you read the books, they're real pricks.  They cause just as much trouble for the good guys as the bad guys do.

you should quote things that you're responding to.  Otherwise, things will get terribly confusing when we reread.
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Re: RMM13: Wheel of Time Mafia! (Day 1 start!)
« Reply #165 on: March 26, 2014, 10:07:58 am »

Would some kind of DaySK work?
Vote: jimm
For implying that yuma is someone that we might want to lynch.

How is evaluating someone's claim voteworthy? I said it's pretty unlikely. I'd love to have an IC, but giving someone IC status without considering alternative explanations would be downright stupid. I think at this stage (obviously pending actually seeing him use his power), yuma's pretty close.
Getting defensive?
I take that as a sign that I might be on to something with my vote on you.

Nope, just calling you out on your terrible reasoning.
Is it just terrible terrible? Scum terrible? or simply bad terrible and you're exaggerating?
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Re: RMM13: Wheel of Time Mafia! (Day 1 start!)
« Reply #166 on: March 26, 2014, 10:11:27 am »

Does this mean you're Mordeth?

If I was Mordeth, I think I would know what kind of guy I am.

But if you don't know anything about Wheel of Time, how did you know of Mordeth?

This question is left as an exercise to the gentle reader.
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Re: RMM13: Wheel of Time Mafia! (Day 1 start!)
« Reply #167 on: March 26, 2014, 10:15:56 am »

Sadly, I have no idea at all about Wheel of Time. So let me ask: in the context of the flavor, would you consider Mordeth a bad guy or a good guy?

I second that Mordeth is probably third-party.

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Re: RMM13: Wheel of Time Mafia! (Day 1 start!)
« Reply #168 on: March 26, 2014, 10:44:25 am »

Does this mean you're Mordeth?

If I was Mordeth, I think I would know what kind of guy I am.

But if you don't know anything about Wheel of Time, how did you know of Mordeth?

This question is left as an exercise to the gentle reader.

This gentle reader sucks :(  I didn't see anyone bring it up.  You could have been searching a wiki for Wheel of Time characters, but there are about 4785 of those, so I'm not sure why you would have picked up on him. 
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« Reply #169 on: March 26, 2014, 11:33:00 am »

Does this mean you're Mordeth?

If I was Mordeth, I think I would know what kind of guy I am.

But if you don't know anything about Wheel of Time, how did you know of Mordeth?

This question is left as an exercise to the gentle reader.

This gentle reader sucks :(  I didn't see anyone bring it up.  You could have been searching a wiki for Wheel of Time characters, but there are about 4785 of those, so I'm not sure why you would have picked up on him. 

His flavor probably mentions or has something to do with Mordeth.

Yuma, if you had to use your DayVig right now, who would you pick?
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« Reply #170 on: March 26, 2014, 11:38:45 am »

Does this mean you're Mordeth?

If I was Mordeth, I think I would know what kind of guy I am.

But if you don't know anything about Wheel of Time, how did you know of Mordeth?

This question is left as an exercise to the gentle reader.

This gentle reader sucks :(  I didn't see anyone bring it up.  You could have been searching a wiki for Wheel of Time characters, but there are about 4785 of those, so I'm not sure why you would have picked up on him. 

His flavor probably mentions or has something to do with Mordeth.

Yuma, if you had to use your DayVig right now, who would you pick?

I did consider that, but it didn't seem that likely.  I could think of maybe one flavor that would.
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Re: RMM13: Wheel of Time Mafia! (Day 1 start!)
« Reply #171 on: March 26, 2014, 12:17:30 pm »

Does yuma get to vig every single day?
Does this mean you're Mordeth?

If I was Mordeth, I think I would know what kind of guy I am.
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Sounds like he set himself up for this to look towny.
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Re: RMM13: Wheel of Time Mafia! (Day 1 start!)
« Reply #172 on: March 26, 2014, 12:22:24 pm »

Would some kind of DaySK work?
Vote: jimm
For implying that yuma is someone that we might want to lynch.

How is evaluating someone's claim voteworthy? I said it's pretty unlikely. I'd love to have an IC, but giving someone IC status without considering alternative explanations would be downright stupid. I think at this stage (obviously pending actually seeing him use his power), yuma's pretty close.
Getting defensive?
I take that as a sign that I might be on to something with my vote on you.

Is there something wrong with getting defensive?

Mordeth is only mentioned in the first book so maybe faust read the first book and gave up or something. More importantly, who cares?
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Re: RMM13: Wheel of Time Mafia! (Day 1 start!)
« Reply #173 on: March 26, 2014, 12:24:13 pm »

Or maybe he's Padan Fain.
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« Reply #174 on: March 26, 2014, 12:33:21 pm »

Also, does anyone have something in their PM saying they're attending a meeting?

Flavor claim: egwene.
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