If you're going to argue against my case, you would be showing me why PPS's reason for claiming wouldn't be "to get the information out before he dies", or you would be showing me why TA would really need support at that time (especially given that he didn't even agree with TA's case).
Your last point is good though (that he is consistent with his D1 statement that he would like to investigate TA), I hadn't realized that so I'll think about it. I still like my PPS vote. Though I also agree with you and Robz that chairs' vote makes no sense at all.
Because claiming obviously gets the information out before he dies... that is a given. It isn't like he could claim and not have the information out.... So I am not sure what to say there....
and I think I have already talked about why PPS claimed in regard to TA--or showed what PPS said--that it was in conjunction and wans't a specific reason.
That is the rub.... You guys want PPS to have a specific reason, but it looks like it was a conglomeration of different things (probably combined with RL stuff) that prompted him to claim when he did. 1. faust saying stuff 2. PPS seeing TA being dismissed 3. getting close to the end of day.
I just don't see what the problem is here.... I think if you are going to convince me your votes for PPS are legitimate you need to show me how his play during day1 and day2 was scummy. Really only Jimmmm has attempted to do that, and I disagree with that case
I guess what it comes down to is I thought PPS was saying his main reason for claiming when he did was that TA was having trouble, and to me it didn't seem like TA was having trouble at all. And I'm saying his main reason should be "shoot I'm at L-2 now and I'm potentially about to die and I need to make sure this gets out", but he didn't even mention that. And I'm not saying the other stuff can't also be contributing factors, or that he has to have only one reason, I'm just saying that that would be like, the overwhelming reason for me to claim at that time if I were in his position.
Yes, claiming always gets information out before you die, but by "before you die" I mean when you're potentially really close to dying. If I had something to claim right now (I don't) and if it was earlier in the day, I could afford to wait a bit before claiming because I don't have any votes on me and I don't have that pressure. If like four people suddenly voted for me, I would probably claim right away to make sure I got it out before I died.
Maybe it just goes without saying that that was his main reason for doing what he did and maybe I was supposed to assume that, I'm still new to this and maybe that's just the kind of thing everyone knows. I just thought it looked strange that he would mention the other much less significant things without bringing that up.
I guess I'm done talking about PPS for now though since it looks like that isn't going to happen. I have class in 30 minutes but I'll be back on later tonight.