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[ehunt]

I love herald. I would overpay for it even if there was no benefit.

[Lekkit]

Herald and Ironmonger, my two favorite 4s.

[Ichimaru Gin]

In an action-heavy deck, Herald without the benefit could be a lab most of the time, for only $4.
Considering that it does include the on-buy benefit. . .
I haven't played too much with guilds, but it seems that both parts of herald are perfect for decks with lots of actions.

[Lekkit]

In an action-heavy deck, Herald without the benefit could be a lab most of the time, for only $4.
Considering that it does include the on-buy benefit. . .It's just awesome!!

It's actually more like a half activated City since get to play the action for free. Not making it any worse.

[pingpongsam]

It can backfire in the same way Golem can backfire.

Ironmonger never backfires.

[Ichimaru Gin]

Oh yeah. I forgot that it includes the fake +action as well.
Just makes it that much better.

[shark_bait]

If only there was some card that could guarantee hitting an action card by reordering the top of the deck..... hmmmm. 

[Lekkit]

It can backfire in the same way Golem can backfire.

Ironmonger never backfires.

Unless you draw your entire deck before playing all Ironmongers. But then you only really miss out on the +1 coin effect.

[Davio]

If only there was some card that could guarantee hitting an action card by reordering the top of the deck..... hmmmm.

Yes there is!




Apothecary.

[blueblimp]

If only there was some card that could guarantee hitting an action card by reordering the top of the deck..... hmmmm.

Yes there is!




Apothecary.

Huh, I was thinking of a different card.



Wandering Minstrel.

[jonts26]

If only there was some card that could guarantee hitting an action card by reordering the top of the deck..... hmmmm.

Yes there is!




Apothecary.

He clearly meant cartographer.

[Robz888]

Herald is nice.

Ironmonger blows it out of the park.

[GiB]

If only there was some card that could guarantee hitting an action card by scouting the top of the deck..... hmmmm.

FTFY

[jaybeez]

Herald is nice.

Ironmonger blows it out of the park.

Well... often, yes.  I feel like Herald can be better for engines that have high enough action density.

While we're on the subject though, when Dark Ages first came out weren't some people saying, in this very forum, that Ironmonger didn't look very good?  Hilarious.

[Awaclus]

If only there was some card that could guarantee hitting an action card by reordering the top of the deck..... hmmmm.

Yes there is!




Apothecary.

He clearly meant cartographer.

But Apothecary, Cartographer and Wandering Minstrel don't guarantee an action card unless they happen to reveal one. Obviously the thing he is looking for is Workshop gaining a Death Cart while you have a Watchtower in hand!

[soulnet]

But Apothecary, Cartographer and Wandering Minstrel don't guarantee an action card unless they happen to reveal one. Obviously the thing he is looking for is Workshop gaining a Death Cart while you have a Watchtower in hand!

At least say Armory!

Or if you want to complicate it on purpose, Black Market to play Royal Seal is way better than a silly Watchtower.

[eliegel34]

I think Scrying Pool is also an interesting comparison. They function quite differently, but are both good in the same action heavy deck.  Scrying Pool is usually stronger, which makes sense since 2P is generally agreed to be a higher cost a than 4 (only a little).  I think Herald is probably good in more situations though, not having the commitment of a potion cost. I also think Herald is nice if you have a lot of terminals since it works as a village, and Scrying Pool can not.

[Kirian]

But Apothecary, Cartographer and Wandering Minstrel don't guarantee an action card unless they happen to reveal one. Obviously the thing he is looking for is Workshop gaining a Death Cart while you have a Watchtower in hand!

At least say Armory!

Or if you want to complicate it on purpose, Black Market to play Royal Seal is way better than a silly Watchtower.

Except that the card you want to guarantee playing with Herald has to be the second card in your deck, not the first.  So you need to gain two cards with Throne Room-Armory, then play Herald: the second card you gained goes into your hand, so the first card you gained should have been the action.

[yed]

It can backfire in the same way Golem can backfire.
Ironmonger never backfires.

Unless you draw your entire deck before playing all Ironmongers. But then you only really miss out on the +1 coin effect.

Sometimes you miss the +1 action effect too.

[PSGarak]

Herald is one of those cards where if it's present, the #1 thing I look for is a way to get my coppers out of the way. If you can get rid of around half your starting deck, Herald is an absolute beast. If you can't, then Herald is an absolute disappointment. Scrying Pool is similar to Herald for this reason. It also holds with Conspirator, but in that case it's easier to get away with just sifting.

[Jerk of All trades]

IMO herald is a fairly weak 4.  You'd never open with it, because then it's a cantrip with a low chance of doing anything other than replacing itself. and later on, unless you have an insane amount of deck inspection or trashing you will still miss actions with it.

Very skippable most of the time.  Even in a village/smithy style engine deck, most of the time I'd just rather have another smithy.

[jaybeez]

You usually don't want to open with Bishop either, but that's a very good $4.  A card's strength as an opener is one aspect of its overall strength.

[Davio]

I rarely open with Potion if I'm going for Possession.
Potion/Death Cart maybe in a Baker game, but that's about it.

[Schlippy]

Herald and Ironmonger, my two favorite 4s.

Same for me, although I think Ironmonger should either cost 5 and do something for curses or should have a clause that makes you unable to buy it on turn 1 and 2. I always feel really cheap when buying it on my starting turns because it usually is a cantrip silver for 4 in the beginning unless you get really unlucky (or you got shelters and get a little bit unlucky).

[Warfreak2]

Cantrip Silver? If it hits a Copper and draws a Copper, it's providing $2 for you, but not being a cantrip on top of that. It's a Peddler in the opening, you'd get the same $ if you opened Tournament.