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[nkirbit]

And you specifically know that locking N0 was an option for you?  Or are you just speculating?

[xeiron]

I guarantee that Ashersky will not flip town. If he do, go to N3 as if I am scum.

 

I mean to say that I aboslutely no clue who is scum if Ashersky flips town.
There is no mafia-narratives that makes sense for anybody but Ashersky.
And the only narratives I have not checked is my own, so I guess I have to be scum if Ashersky is not.

[ashersky]

And you specifically know that locking N0 was an option for you?  Or are you just speculating?

Guessing.  My point was I can only lock nights in the past.

And Xeiron against with ridiculous horseshit.  How have we confirmed anything about N1?

[jotheonah]

Can we vote yet? I feel like I'm ready to vote.

[xeiron]

Can we vote yet? I feel like I'm ready to vote.

Some of us have started, so voting should be fine. But we should probably wait some more before actually lynching.

[jotheonah]

What does the macho modifier do?

[nkirbit]

What does the macho modifier do?

Cannot be protected from nightkills.  Doctors won't save you.

[Jimmmmm]

Those of you familiar with Dr. Who, look at this post, and tell us if the flavor names make sense with the roles.

I actually have some thoughts on this, but I want the remaining flavor claims from Jimmmm and Nkirbit before I say them.

I'm not flavour claiming.

[jotheonah]

Those of you familiar with Dr. Who, look at this post, and tell us if the flavor names make sense with the roles.

I actually have some thoughts on this, but I want the remaining flavor claims from Jimmmm and Nkirbit before I say them.

I'm not flavour claiming.

I already shared my thoughts. But why not?

[Jimmmmm]

Those of you familiar with Dr. Who, look at this post, and tell us if the flavor names make sense with the roles.

I actually have some thoughts on this, but I want the remaining flavor claims from Jimmmm and Nkirbit before I say them.

I'm not flavour claiming.

I already shared my thoughts. But why not?

So I can use it to say who I'm targeting Tonight.

[jotheonah]

that's legit. I'm open to suggestions on how to use my power.

I don't think I want to bother with yuma, given that he volunteered to be targeted by my power. Either he's telling the truth or he was planning to kill me.

[EFHW]

my main suspects are Walrus, yuma and ashersky.  Maybe xeiron. 

What do you all think of this plan - we lynch Walrus, three of the cops target yuma:  joth - modifier; nkirbit - time travel; Jimmmmm - weak doctor.  xeiron targets chairs.  yuma targets me.  faust targets me.  ashersky locks N2.  I'll take joth to N17 or something.  2.7 hang out.  Then we take stock. 

We could have yuma and faust target ashersky instead.  Having faust watch me does add some protection, since they will probably double up on kills tonight.  I need to check something with Voltaire, too.

Thoughts?

[jotheonah]

I'm suspicious of faust based on flavor. so I don't want to trust him too much. It's weak, but it's not that weak. The ONLY other claim that's from old Doctor Who instead of new Doctor Who was PPS's fake claim.

I doubt this is an intentional thing from the mod, but it's not so unbelievable that the mod did the fake claims last and was out of new characters.

[EFHW]

Alternatively,

we lynch Walrus

Jimmmmm, joth, nkirbit each choose between yuma and ashersky to investigate.

yuma and faust both target me.

ashersky locks N2.

2.7 hangs out.

I take joth to the future.

[EFHW]

xeiron targets chairs or 2.7

[jotheonah]

yeah, that works for me. slight preference for lynching ashersky over walrus, but whatever.

[EFHW]

I'm suspicious of faust based on flavor. so I don't want to trust him too much. It's weak, but it's not that weak. The ONLY other claim that's from old Doctor Who instead of new Doctor Who was PPS's fake claim.

I doubt this is an intentional thing from the mod, but it's not so unbelievable that the mod did the fake claims last and was out of new characters.

So you think he fakeclaimed that he saw Jimmmmm target joth?  It's possible.

[2.71828.....]

I show up, and have to read like 2 pages to catch up.  The first thing that stuck out to me:

Okay, going.

I am a Universal Backup. I inherited sudgy's role, and am now a Weak Doctor.

I targeted jotheonah last Night.

There is no time traveling or enabling mentioned in either of my PMs.

As I am alive, jotheonah must be Town unless I was Roleblocked.

This also explains e's Night 2 result, and makes me believe his claim:

1 shot voyeur used N2- targeted at Jotheonah.  Jotheonah was targeted by protection N2.

I'll keep my flavour name to myself so I can use it to communicate who I'm targeting Tonight.

I am Ian Chesterton, Jack-Of-All-Trades. I am a 1-shot Watcher, 1-shot Tracker.

Night 1, I watched ashersky. I did not receive any information.

Night 2, I tracked Jimmmmm. He did target jotheonah.

What this claim means:

- e is likely telling the truth. His claim mirrors mine nicely.
- together with e's information (jotheonah was targeted by protection), Jimmmmm's claim (UB/Weak Doctor), and my tracking result, I think we can clear jotheonah. Also this clears Jimmmmm.

I am going to vote: yuma for being contradicted by the IC.

These make me think that Jimmmmm, Faust, Jotheonah are all town (along with myself).  Basically this adds up to myself, Faust, and Jimmmm confirming Jotheonah as town, and at this point I don't think we have 4 scum left which would allow three of us to "IC" the fourth one.  Basically this whole thing involves too many people for there to be scum (in my opinion).  Maybe scum jumped in at the end (which would be Faust as he had the last claim) but I doubt that.

I am not sure what to do with all the other time-confusion stuff that was claimed right now.  need more time to process.

[EFHW]

walrus seems to be the more powerful one.  Maybe not, but it's usually safest to stay as close to your real role as possible (that's what I hear, anyway  ).

[ashersky]

Ok with EFHW's plan.

[ashersky]

Although, if we can lynch scum today, maybe we get a flawless win?  (Assuming a 3-man scum team, given the lack of night kills.)

How sure are we on who scum is?  I've felt walrus is scum forever, of course.

[WalrusMcFishSr]

Hey, so I actually made it in with a minimum of grief, so here are a few thoughts before bed.

A fair few people seem to have me out on the front of the lynch list. I don't really understand it but ok. After my claim, sure. After Arch's flip, fine, maybe I was bussing. But after pps' lynch...bussing to the point of self-destruction? Decreasingly probable.

I do admit my role looks SKish. No denial there. But that's not true either.

I did try to breadcrumb my role a little bit, in case you care (yeah yeah yeah, could be faked, whatever). Talking about the chrono-vig D1. Also, remember when I got all indignant at someone, like, "How the hell do you know there isn't a time traveling IC doctor?" It was a little forced and intentionally so, to broadcast the idea that I believed such powerful roles could exist, based on my own. I was pretty confident EFHW had some tricks up her sleeve besides just IC.

I'm not too concerned because town seems to have a huge lead at this point. Lynching me won't help you though. I'm just happy a few of my reads were actually reasonably good this game.

Which leads me to my next point...my own reads list, starting with the scummiest:

First of all, the e/faust/Jimmmmm thing. This is what I was talking about...the fact that they all confirmed jotheonah does make jo townier in my mind (and I thought that already). But verifying the same thing is a rather safe claim to make, and look at what we've got...one shots? Can't be verified further. Universal Backup? Super easy to fake. These are exactly the kinds of claims that scum would have to make right now to have a chance of surviving to the endgame--subtle, innocuous, pro-town-seeming. Anything more brazen or verifiable could possibly lead to them getting trapped and just losing. It is my hypothesis that there is scum here, although I haven't had time to analyze the claims thoroughly to see how they interact.

After that: xeiron. If you're looking for a SK candidate I think he's a better choice. I'm not sold there is an SK at all though, given the paucity of night kills. But he still may be scum.

After that: yuma I guess? Just a feeling mostly. I think he's probably town though.

I think jo and ash are town. ash's erroneous tunneling of me is slightly annoying, but it feels towny enough. I've had a town read on jo since that wagon ran up on him at the beginning of D2. Leaning town on nkirbit too. Did I miss anyone?

Off to bed now.

[Jimmmmm]

First of all, the e/faust/Jimmmmm thing. This is what I was talking about...the fact that they all confirmed jotheonah does make jo townier in my mind (and I thought that already). But verifying the same thing is a rather safe claim to make, and look at what we've got...one shots? Can't be verified further. Universal Backup? Super easy to fake. These are exactly the kinds of claims that scum would have to make right now to have a chance of surviving to the endgame--subtle, innocuous, pro-town-seeming. Anything more brazen or verifiable could possibly lead to them getting trapped and just losing. It is my hypothesis that there is scum here, although I haven't had time to analyze the claims thoroughly to see how they interact.

So your top scum read is basically just people whose claims agree? How many scum do you think there are? e claimed, then I claimed something which supports his claim, then faust claimed something which supports my claim. Surely the only one of us who doesn't get Town points for that is faust?

[ashersky]

Easiest way to see if Jimmmmm is lying is to run him up to L-1.  But then, if he's not lying, he dies.

[Jimmmmm]

Easiest way to see if Jimmmmm is lying is to run him up to L-1.  But then, if he's not lying, he dies.

You're right! The easiest way to see if I'm lying is to lynch me.