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[Voltaire]

Still catching up, EFHW don't hammer! Everyone thinks I should be a god because of M31 but look at town!Volt in B2B or Clue or anything! I was so wrong!

[yuma]

Still catching up, EFHW don't hammer! Everyone thinks I should be a god because of M31 but look at town!Volt in B2B or Clue or anything! I was so wrong!

that isn't why I am voting you.

[Voltaire]

Still catching up, EFHW don't hammer! Everyone thinks I should be a god because of M31 but look at town!Volt in B2B or Clue or anything! I was so wrong!

that isn't why I am voting you.

Yeah but it is for Eevee and Walrus.

[Twistedarcher]

Vote Count 2.13:

Eevee (1): EFHW
Walrus (3): mail-mi, Voltaire, Teproc {L-1}
Voltaire (3): Walrus, yuma, Eevee {L-1}

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Day 2 ends November 13 at 8:00 p.m. (24 minutes!)

[yuma]

Still catching up, EFHW don't hammer! Everyone thinks I should be a god because of M31 but look at town!Volt in B2B or Clue or anything! I was so wrong!

that isn't why I am voting you.

Yeah but it is for Eevee and Walrus.

I am not part of everyone? Sad face...

[mail-mi]

Here. Okay with voltaire, still prefer walrus but Voltaire isn't the worst lynch out there.

[Voltaire]

I'm super-fast posting, trying to think of what I can possibly to do avoid the IC mishammring me with 20 minutes to go...I'm going to make some mistakes. 

[Voltaire]

EFHW, look at Walrus's voting history. It's similar to mail-mi's. Mail-mi's is bad but gets a mail-mi pass. What about Walrus?

I honestly don't get what you don't like about the case.

[EFHW]

no one has made a case based on his voting history, though.

[Voltaire]

If Voltaire is town then everyone should be back on the table.  Someone needs to take a very careful look at yuma again (with your fingers in your ears so the sirens don't tempt you to the island where yuma is always town).  I have been wondering why he put Robz to L-1, but didn't want to clutter up the deadline talk with that.  Feel free to answer now, tho. 

Teproc has only seemed scummy in his choice of Walrus and mail-mi as suspects, but if Voltaire is town it does seem like we will also need to take another look at Walrus.

Yes, yuma has mislynched faust, EFHW, and myself, and been clearly behaving differently. I wish I hadn't wobbled on yuma so much.

Your doomsday scenario is real, yuma. REAL

[Teproc]

While that wasn't my main case, I definitely did include his voting record in it. I'll find the post.

[yuma]

EFHW, look at Walrus's voting history. It's similar to mail-mi's. Mail-mi's is bad but gets a mail-mi pass. What about Walrus?

I honestly don't get what you don't like about the case.

No. I think hte point was that neither were bad. Both were similar to each other and to others around them... at least that is what I took from it.....

For reference:

If we leave out RVS, then on DAY 1:

Eevee had 1 vote on 1 person
EFHW had 4 votes on 4 different people,
Voltaire had 4 votes on 4 different people,
chairs had 5 votes on 3 different people,
Robz had 5 votes on 4 different people,
mail-mi had 6 votes for 5 different people,
Walrus had 7 votes for 5 different people,
faust had 7 votes for 5 different people,
yuma had 8 votes for 5 different people. 

mail-mi hammered once. 
yuma put Robz to L-1. 
chairs/now Teproc put faust at L-1
Walrus put Voltaire at L-1
faust put both Robz and Walrus at L-1.

[Voltaire]

no one has made a case based on his voting history, though.

I know, I'm trying to change your mind with 17 minutes left, I clearly need something new because you're not convinced by the old stuff. Go look at the very post you made about mail-mi's votes compared to everyone else.

Look, I'm not certain Walrus is scum but I'm certain I am town! I have to fight as hard as I can to change this.

[Voltaire]

Oh, right, faust was in there. Never mind then. 

Just hammer me and get it over with, there's clearly no convincing you.

[EFHW]

I'm not thrilled with the case on you Voltaire, just more than the others.  You are passionate in your own defense!

[Teproc]

Here it is :

Fine, I'll unvote. Unless mail-mi suddenly becomes a viable lynch, consider my vote to be on Walrus though.

I understand why you're not convinced EFHW. I'm mostly coming at this from a POE perspective, so I'm aware that the case against Walrus isn't incredibly strong. I'm pushing it because I believe Voltaire would be a mislynch.

Speaking of pushing on Walrus, I took a look at his voting record :
- #62/70/86 : The whole vote/unvote/vote thing with faust
- #109 : Votes Robz (3) for poor contributions and posting only when called out on lurking
- #144 : Votes EFHW (2), explicitely sheeping yuma. He goes on to explain better, stating that EFHW's posts have no content and doesn't like that she's accusing him. He also points to a EFHW/mail-mi scumteam
- #297 : Votes Robz again (L-1). Doesn't like Robz daring people to vote for him and finds Robz's vote on chairs "interesting"
- #329 : Votes chairs (3), for empty posts and calls his "lynch mafia not scum" a platitude (it was about voting for faust rather than Robz)
- #473 : Votes Voltaire (L-1) : Finds him uncharacteristically unhelpful

Day 2

- #516 : Votes Voltaire (2), for reasons I don't entirely understand (beside the day 1 thing) :

I feel like we have had a really good day1.

I think we've had the sort of D1 that will lead to a great D2 but high odds for a crappy lynch D1.

This was the quote that stuck out most in my mind from the conclusion of D1. I'll go back and reread more carefully later after work, but I'm gonna vote: Voltaire initially as well.

- #748 : Votes Eevee (2). No reasoning given, so I guess he was sheeping EFHW (now IC) ?
- #809 : Votes Voltaire (L-1) : No reasoning, so presumably the same reasons as before + yuma's case ?

That's three L-1 votes, two of them on Voltaire. The first one I find quite weak, the second one I can see a little more.
Mostly, there's a lot of sheeping there.

PPE : 8 unread posts.

[Voltaire]

I'm not thrilled with the case on you Voltaire, just more than the others.  You are passionate in your own defense!

Thank you for that. 

And this will be a compliment from Eevee and everyone else. Even if Eevee is scum, because he got town to buy it!

[EFHW]

you guys have one fewer person to pick from than I do.  There are 6 of you, 2 of you are scum.  I'll go with Eevee or yuma if the votes are there.

[mail-mi]

you guys have one fewer person to pick from than I do.  There are 6 of you, 2 of you are scum.  I'll go with Eevee or yuma if the votes are there.

There's thirteen minutes. I don't think it's gonna happen. Just hammer someone (preferably walrus.)

[Voltaire]

I will go to Eevee or yuma.

vote: yuma

[Voltaire]

And I am here until deadline to go back to Walrus if EFHW goes there.

[Teproc]

I don't think there's a fourth vote on yuma. The votes are there for Eevee I guess (not mine though).

[Eevee]

noooooo

[Eevee]

i do not want to vote for yuma.

the alternative sounds all kinds of terrible, though.

[Voltaire]

I am kinda concerned about all the Eevee votes lying around, Teproc. EFHW what do you think about that? 9 minutes.