I feel like we have had a really good day1.
I think we've had the sort of D1 that will lead to a great D2 but high odds for a crappy lynch D1.
This was the quote that stuck out most in my mind from the conclusion of D1. I'll go back and reread more carefully later after work, but I'm gonna vote: Voltaire initially as well.
Reasons yet?
Also:
vote: EFHW btw. Had mafia-esque certainty in my town-ness, bad gut feeling from early D1, tried to get me lynched for contradictions (which usually come from town). yuma's case on her from D1. Seems to test the waters for a mail-mi lynch (knowing it probably won't happen). I feel pretty good here. All pending claims of course.
I re-read the entire thread. Robz was just found too scummy collectively for killing him to make any sense. Scum was clearly PR-hunting. So any argument predicated on "but X lived to D2!" is bad today, I am now certain.
So. Claiming. Here's where I'm at.
A tracker with a guilty result (tracked someone who targeted Robz) and a cop with a guilty result should both claim immediately. Because that has not happened, I assume we do not have any PRs with guilty results. We do know that if there is a BPT, their 1-shot remains.
Let's look at each setup (please point out mistakes). "Lynch pool" is from the point of view of a VT:
A (Jailkeeper, BPT,
roleblocker): jailkeeper can semi-clear someone. BPT can live forever if they get to L-1 and have to claim. Scum will know perfect setup info. They'll kill the JK, but everyone who is not the JK will have a lynch pool of 4 players instead of 6 today (the BPT will claim at L-1 if needed). If this is the setup, I could go either way on if the JK should claim off the bat.
1 (Jailkeeper): JK can semi-clear someone. JK has a chance to save themselves if they jail the mafia making the kill. Lynch pool drops from 6 to 5. I don't think the JK should claim here.
B (Cop): Since we're assuming they don't have a guilty result, they can clear a townie as long as they didn't investigate Robz (and they might have, lots of people found him scummy). If they investigated Robz, don't claim. If they investigated a townie, claim and clear the townie. For those who are not the cleared townie or cop, the lynch pool drops from 6 to 4. Cop should definitely claim (if not Robz).
2 (Cop, Doctor,
Roleblocker): Same cop considerations as above. Doctor doesn't claim (unless they have to at L-1). Lynch pool drops to 4 or 3 (if the cop didn't investigate the Doctor) as long as no Robz investigation. Cop should definitely claim (if not Robz).
C (Doctor, Tracker): Tracker can claim and we can play "follow the tracker" until the doctor dies. Lynch pool is 4. Tracker should claim
but not their result (unless on scum).
3 (BPT, Tracker): Tracker can claim. Lynch pool is 4. Tracker should claim
but not their result (unless on scum).
So, since our PRs don't know if they have a counterpart...I guess I would support claims from Tracker / "Cop with cleared townie" the most, followed by wishy-washy on the JK, and the doctor should never claim*, nor should the BPT* or "Cop with a Robz"*. *unless at L-1 of course.
Obviously all PRs should claim at L-1. Mafia will be caught in a fakeclaim if they make one today, but not tomorrow.
A soft deadline is going to be
huge for us today. Real deadline is November 13 at 8:00 p.m.
Soft deadline at noon November 12? Or do we want more than 1.5 real-life days?
I could be missing stuff. Please point out errors.
Everyone should say if they are ok with the soft deadline in their next post, and if not, when they would prefer it to be.
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