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[faust]

Sorry guys, I don't have much time right now, so I'll make this short. I'm not sold on the Voltaire case, where does that suddenly come from? EFHW I find hard to read, could be scum I guess. Robz isn't going to go through, but it would still be my preferred lynch. yuma - not today at least. I need some time and information to evaluate his play. Don't want to lynch Walrus. mail-mi is null, he's his usual self, but his usual self has been scum a lot lately. chairs seems townie after the /out thing.

Who's left? Eevee. Is he even there anymore? I guess I'm falling back to LAL. Vote: Eevee.

This is my last post before the deadline. I won't be able to claim or change vote from now on. I hope this day ends well.

[yuma]

and that last post by faust.... just ugh...

Not so much the him not wanting to vote voltaire part.... I mean that wans't ideal as it looks like he didn't even read the case? What is with that... guess he is in a hurry, but still...

and then a vote on eevee. Yeah, eevee hasn't been around, but he just plops a vote down on someone that is not going to be today's lynch... No one else is voting for him, no one else has considered voting for him... might as well not even vote.

And to be clear I am not finding him suspicious for not being around the rest of the day. Our deadlines are hard for european players, but I DO NOT like how he just ignored the case on voltaire and then plopped a really safe vote down right before deadline... And i am frustrated that I can't really go back to voting for him because he won't be around to claim if he does get up that high... is the risk worth going back to him? I don't know. If I wasn't somewhat certain about voltaire I might go back, but as it is, I think I have them about equal in terms of scumminess...

Major scum read continued on him. IF voltaire flips scum, I might pinpoint him as a partner...

[Robz888]

And to be clear I am not finding him suspicious for not being around the rest of the day. Our deadlines are hard for european players, but I DO NOT like how he just ignored the case on voltaire and then plopped a really safe vote down right before deadline... And i am frustrated that I can't really go back to voting for him because he won't be around to claim if he does get up that high... is the risk worth going back to him? I don't know. If I wasn't somewhat certain about voltaire I might go back, but as it is, I think I have them about equal in terms of scumminess...

I agree, I would lynch him for this.

[Robz888]

Probably over Voltaire, even after everything.

[Robz888]

And I do really like Voltgloss's "quick, pseudo-random lynch right before deadline!" strategy on Day 1 of M31, even though it didn't work.

[Voltaire]

Catching up right now. Saw but have not read in detail EFHW's large post. Will reply. Did see the stuff on faust, and I am cool voting him, largely for yuma's reasons. vote: faust.

[Robz888]

Screw it.

Vote: faust

[yuma]

And to be clear I am not finding him suspicious for not being around the rest of the day. Our deadlines are hard for european players, but I DO NOT like how he just ignored the case on voltaire and then plopped a really safe vote down right before deadline... And i am frustrated that I can't really go back to voting for him because he won't be around to claim if he does get up that high... is the risk worth going back to him? I don't know. If I wasn't somewhat certain about voltaire I might go back, but as it is, I think I have them about equal in terms of scumminess...

I agree, I would lynch him for this.

The question is thus: Do we lynch him today (or try to do so) or do we let him live until Day2 (I am assuming mafia won't be NKing him) and then consider lynching him then for this egregious behavior?

[yuma]

Well there is my answer, I think...

vote: faust

[Voltaire]

{EFHW's big post on me}

I'm going to try to reply to this in general to avoid walls-of-quoted-text posts, which I and I assume others have a nasty habit of skimming.

You are correct to point out that my reads have changed rapidly, in the space of a short number of posts. They totally have, I may have pointed this out at the time somewhere. It's because none of my reads are strong, and most importantly, there are lots of if/then statements. IF yuma is scum, THEN Walrus and Robz are more likely to be scum as well but faust and EFHW are more likely to be town. BUT if yuma is town then faust is a little more likely to be scum. etc etc etc etc etc etc (yada yada yada, if you like  ).

And so what you're seeing is me switching back and forth between these "sets" of views, as I find them more likely, and that has a domino effect to all of my other reads. I maintain that this is good smart pro-town thinking and behavior. Robz does too!

But who puts in more effort to make sure their Day 1 reads are consistent and logically evolving, scum or town? Scum, of course scum.

I usually don't explain my gut cases because there is nothing to explain beyond "I have a  bad feeling about..." My gut is usually wrong (yuma in B2B, ash in Clue, etc.). It has probably been right once or twice too, but it's not terribly useful. Sometimes I post what my gut is thinking to see if scum tries to convince me to listen to my gut. Can't say it's ever worked.

[nkirbit]

Vote Count 1.12:

Eevee(1): Faust
WalrusMcFishSr (1): Eevee
Voltaire(3): EFHW, Mail-Mi, Walrus
Faust(3): Voltaire, Robz, Yuma
Not voting(1): Chairs

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Day 1 ends November 4 at 8:00 p.m.  That's in about two and a half hours!

[yuma]

Vote Count 1.12:

Day 1 ends November 4 at 8:00 p.m.  That's in about two and a half hours!

Any progress at all on a sub? Not having a vote is hurting us here.

[Voltaire]

This whole game is just full of unreadable players. I'm personally sold that one of Yuma or Robz is scum but I'll be damned if I know which.

Chairs, dude. We need a vote. You've posted since /outing, so I assume you intend to finish this day.

PPE yuma saying the same thing.

[nkirbit]

There will not be any replacements for any players before the end of the day.

[yuma]

There will not be any replacements for any players before the end of the day.

Had chairs been notified of this prior to this message? Maybe you can't answer that... so I'll ask when was this decision made?

[mail-mi]

Sorry guys, I don't have much time right now, so I'll make this short. I'm not sold on the Voltaire case, where does that suddenly come from? EFHW I find hard to read, could be scum I guess. Robz isn't going to go through, but it would still be my preferred lynch. yuma - not today at least. I need some time and information to evaluate his play. Don't want to lynch Walrus. mail-mi is null, he's his usual self, but his usual self has been scum a lot lately. chairs seems townie after the /out thing.

Who's left? Eevee. Is he even there anymore? I guess I'm falling back to LAL. Vote: Eevee.

This is my last post before the deadline. I won't be able to claim or change vote from now on. I hope this day ends well.

Rly? Do you really think Eevee has a chance of being lynched 2 1/2 hours before deadline? I'm pretty sure he doesn't but I know you do. I had a scummy read on you before, but this has amplified it.

However, I am also okay with keeping on volt. So I'll stay there, but intent to hammer if someone else switches.

[yuma]

However, I am also okay with keeping on volt. So I'll stay there, but intent to hammer if someone else switches.

Why not switch now and then let someone else hammer?

[Twistedarcher]

There will not be any replacements for any players before the end of the day.

Had chairs been notified of this prior to this message? Maybe you can't answer that... so I'll ask when was this decision made?

There will be no replacements for any players before the end of the day. That's all we are saying on the matter.

[chairs]

vote: Faust

[chairs]

L-1

[yuma]

vote: Faust

thanks for still playing through the day. really appreciate it.

[WalrusMcFishSr]

Oof, that last faust post was a doozy wasn't it? Certainly it dispels some reservations I had about lynching him.

I could hammer or mail-mi could; I don't care.

[Twistedarcher]

Vote Count 1.13:

Eevee(1): Faust
WalrusMcFishSr (1): Eevee
Voltaire(3): EFHW, Mail-Mi, Walrus
Faust(4): Voltaire, Robz, Yuma, Chairs


With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Day 1 ends November 4 at 8:00 p.m.  That's in about two and a half hours!

[mail-mi]

However, I am also okay with keeping on volt. So I'll stay there, but intent to hammer if someone else switches.

Why not switch now and then let someone else hammer?

Cuz I wanna hammer! vote: faust

[WalrusMcFishSr]

 It is known.