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[yuma]

And that's that.
2.7 is scum by the way.

Are you?

Nope.

If so then why the hell didn't you post?

[yuma]

And that's that.
2.7 is scum by the way.

Are you?

Nope.

If so then why the hell didn't you post?

either you are scum or a jerk you just wanted to screw town...

[yuma]

take back the jerk part but your actions if you are town did screw us over...

[yuma]

you were obvioulsy following along... how else to explain that you just randomly appeared the moment you were lynched... too cool to play the game? is this just a big joke to you? i hope not. you have been around long enough to know that a lot of us take this seriously...

[Jimmmmm]

Long, quiet twilight.

[mail-mi]

Sorry, was asleep, flip after church.

Thread locked!

[mail-mi]

Vote Count 2.FINAL

Gveoniz (1): Jimmmmm,
Archetype (6): 2.71828....., Eevee, Robz888, sudgy, yuma, liopoil
Robz888 (1): Voltaire
2.71828..... (1): Archetype

Not Voting (1): Gveoniz,

With 10 alive, it took 6 to lynch

Day 2 ended Sunday, November 17 at 3 PM Forum Time.

[mail-mi]

After a heated argument, one toy turned to Barbie and said "You've been awfully quiet."

Barbie said nothing.

Another toy said "Tell us your thoughts on the other toys. Who do you think has the key to the ice lock? The fire lock?"

Barbie said nothing.

"Are you going to say anything?" One toy shouted.

Barbie said nothing.

"Okay, I've had enough of this. She's gotta be scum that's afraid to speak. Get her!"

And they did. Literally tore her limb from limb, the ball in socket joints coming apart easily with 6 toys man toy-handling her, desperately searching for a red or blue key, some sort of hint.

They found nothing.

Archetype, aka Barbie the Vanilla Townie has been lynched!

NIGHT 2 START!
THREAD STILL LOCKED!

Everyone please send me a PM (if you're alive) to confirm that you're still playing. Night 2 will end on Tuesday when I get home from school (around 7ish PM FT)

[mail-mi]

Jessie was awakened by a loud scream--well more of a bark really. She got out of her covers, drew out her gun, and went toward the sound.

Everyone else was akoken by another scream.

In the middle of the chest, there was the burnt remains of one body and another frozen body. They were both lifeless, and when Woody chiseled Slinky Dog out of the ice, he realized something horrible--Stinky Pete was wrapped in Slinky Dog's slinky! And searching through the charred remains of Jessie, they found an untouched bit of pink hair!

"Well," Woody said, "I don't believe the night could have gone better for us."

Eevee, Jessie Lot's O' Huggin' Bear, an Ice Mafia Goon, was burned in the night!

Robz888, Slinky Dog Stinky Pete, a Fire Mafia Goon, was frozen in the night!

Woody found the two half-keys that they had been hiding, one red like fire, the other blue like ice, and put them under his had. "Just 2 more halves to go!"

Thread unlocked!
Day 3 start!

Vote Count 3.0

Not Voting (7): Voltaire, liopoil, sudgy, yuma, 2.71828......, Gveoniz, Jimmmmm

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch.

Day 3 ends Tuesday, November 26th at 7 pm FT.

[yuma]

finally something to analyze...

and i am furious with arch... like spit-raging mad. WTF man?

[yuma]

7 alive, 1 IC, 1 fire, 1 ice, 4 VTs... this game looks winnable all of a sudden.

[sudgy]

I'll analyze the mafia at some point, but back to Vote: Gveoniz for his drastic differences in playstyle.

And, yay, us!

[yuma]

Vote Count 2.yuma

Eevee (1): Robz888
Robz888 (1): Archetype
Archetype (1): 2.71828.....
2.7182 (1): yuma
Gveoniz (1): sudgy

Not Voting (5): liopoil, Gveoniz, Eevee, Jimmmm, Voltaire

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch

Day 2 ends Sunday, November 17 at ~8 PM Forum Time.



Couple of things... can we get a hard deadline. ~8 isn't going to cut it. How about just 8?

Second anyone else extremely concerned that we are three days away from deadline (all of which are weekend days) and we have no wagon bigger than 1 vote? And that we have 5 people not voting. FOS to lio, gveo, eevee and jimmm for not voting. Voltaire, you can vote whenever you want to I suppose... I am just glad you aren't voting for me anymore....

Yeah, I don't feel like we're in great shape.

I don't want to lynch myself, Voltaire, yuma, or 2.7, basically.

Eevee and sudgy are really the only two players I've looked at very in depth. And I don't come away with much more than, well they could be scum.

Scum have to be lurking, right? Maybe a lurker lynch? Liopoil? Archetype? Gveoniz?

perhaps the most pertinent post from robz to look at... later in the day2. note that he doesn't mention jimmmm at all, he sides ultimately on the arch wagon so maybe one of the two other lurkers fit into the "call my partner scummy but not vote for him routine"

[sudgy]

I'm going to do what I did with shraeye in MXXXI, looking back at it it was actually pretty correct (all the mafia being on my final list and most being the ones I said to look at closer).

[yuma]

but he does then vote for jimmmm a few posts later..

I don't think sudgy is his partner for a couple of reasons,,, i'll explain later.

[yuma]

Vote: Archetype

Will also vote for Gveoniz. Liopoil and Jimm have done enough to avoid the lurker lynch, at which point I would need like other reasons to lynch them, and I don't have any.

If Archetype is scum, I think Eevee is suspicious. I know Eevee is voting for Arch, but I feel like he keeps trying to subtly push things in a different direction. Like just now when he said, okay doesn't matter which lurker, let's do the one Voltaire thinks (even though we all mostly prefer Arch), and then tried to find Jimm scummy for something that even he doesn't really think is scummy.

yeah... of the lurkers (jimmm, hve and lio) I think lio is most likely robz's partner at this point. not saying one of those three is, but just based off these posts if one is I think lio is most likely.

[yuma]

Eh, don't like an arch lynch.

vote: Robz

and this.....

volt you were right but did nothing to show us why you were right.

[yuma]

And that's that.
2.7 is scum by the way.

And this makes me soooo mad... 4 minutes after the hammer. you were obviously following along! why not say anything? why just lurk yourself to death? some sort of weird badge of honor? you obviously aren't interested in winning the game or caring that there might be those of us who do! Jeez! what gives? this just infuriates me still two days later.

obviously you can't answer now, but man...

[yuma]

im caught up and actually feel I got a decent grasp on the game despite not reading for so long. I'm super tired, so just a quick reads list to maybe spark up some discussion. I'll be back tomorrow with explanations, comments on robz's case and answers to e's clarifying questions.

but for now, I'm just mystical and give reads without explanations

town: yuma (!), Voltaire (duh)

scum: robz, e, sudgy, archetype

wouldn't have remembered they are playing had e not just referenced them (nice job with the summary posts btw, your effort is appreciated): liopoil (!), jimm, whoever else isn't mentioned except for gweoniz who I need to reread, jury is still out.

I feel I had another town read but my brain is failing me. more to
come tomorrow!

similar reads post from eevee. mentions everyone, was obviously right about robz... puts sudgy on the scum list (sudgy is looking even more townie these days I think)

probably more content when he explains his reads... but this is a good starting off point for eevee.

[yuma]

Holy cow.  Anybody reread him in NMIV, and you'll agree.  Vote: Gveoniz.

I'll do that, but I'm wary.. feels exactly the kind of thing his partner would have warned him about night 1.

a partner named eevee!!!???!!!

[yuma]

vote: e

and 2.7 looks kess likely to be eevee's partner barring heavy bussing which i think is risky at this juncture with only 2 man teams and an opposing mafia kill you can't control...

[yuma]

one last comment and then i'll shut up and let someone else say something...

we are at a really nice place because players that are alive can't be partners...

This should help a lot, because when I play and read I am constantly distracted by wondering if interactions are between two players on the same team and it nags at me and ultimately distracts from scum hunting... so remember any two players can't be partners with each other. one might be scum, but it would be an interaction between a townie an a scummy...

or a scummy and a scummy I guess... but they wouldn't know that!

[liopoil]

"Well," Woody said, "I don't believe the night could have gone better for us."

pretty much 

I was really getting back into this game at the end of D2... but then arch flipped town and I was feeling a bit apathetic about the game again. But not I'm feeling much more interested, lots new stuff to look at! less flimsy reads! plus we actually have a decent chance of winning!

I'll analyze the mafia at some point, but back to Vote: Gveoniz for his drastic differences in playstyle.

And, yay, us!

don't really like this because while I suspect Gveoniz too, looking at stuff based on the two scum flips we have will be much more effective.

[sudgy]

"Well," Woody said, "I don't believe the night could have gone better for us."

pretty much 

I was really getting back into this game at the end of D2... but then arch flipped town and I was feeling a bit apathetic about the game again. But not I'm feeling much more interested, lots new stuff to look at! less flimsy reads! plus we actually have a decent chance of winning!

I'll analyze the mafia at some point, but back to Vote: Gveoniz for his drastic differences in playstyle.

And, yay, us!

don't really like this because while I suspect Gveoniz too, looking at stuff based on the two scum flips we have will be much more effective.

I'll look at those, and maybe change my vote then as well.  This is for now.

[liopoil]

so, we have more information!

N1, eevee was on the team that killed ashersky
N1, robz was on the team that killed voltgloss
N2, eevee was on the team that killed robz
N2, robz was on the team that killed eevee

the first two matter because if eevee/robz didn't suspect ashersky/voltgloss then we can look for people who did. The second two make sense because they had that skirmish thing D2, and so both had motives to kill each other.

Also: based on the scum flavor flips, we can determine which team wins if they are the only two left alive. I'll go check that.