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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day7
« Reply #1975 on: August 21, 2013, 07:00:13 pm »

So big takeaways from this game:

1 - The hider plan was obviously broken. That was my fault as a mod and should have thought through it better. Allow this to be a warning to future mods that combining flavor with the game itself can be dangerous.

2 - I was bummed the Tracker/Vig was killed off so early. I felt that the intrigue behind this setup was the interactions that role has with the others. Voltaire dying made this game much more Vanilla much more quickly.

3 - Lio brings up a point that mafia went the whole game w/o having a true case brought up on them, more or less. The two that died were outed via investigation or counter claim and were obvious lynches at the time. While losing a mafia member is bad, in this way I believe it actually benefited mafia. This is because during those whole two days there was less information to analyze. They were obvious lynches. So despite this being day7 there were significantly less days to actually analyze content. See the defenses that raerae and ash made. They were primarily from day1 and day4. The rest of the days were rather devoid of real content.

4 - Missing deadlines and no-voting. Certainly a theme for this game. Unfortunate. I am not happy that this is the way the game ended, but there wasn't an alternative from my perspective. Thanks to everyone for taking it as it is and not becoming overly frustrated or angry with the ultimate result. I hope everyone had fun regardless of the ending.

5 - I think the MVP goes to raerae (if you disagree, submit your own MVP nomination). Liopoil certainly gets a nod for the counter claim successfully paid off. While it went well I think it was risky. If he isn't believed and is lynched before TA, raerae would have a much harder time winning this. UoS was great with his plan, but again I would have liked to see how he would have operated based off his own reads rather than following a strict plan. Better for town =! more fun.

6 - thanks to mail-mi for helping co-mod and to EFHW and Jorbles for stepping in while I was VLA.

7 - Remember to sign up for Modern Community Mafia when it opens for signups in a few weeks and Arrested Development Mafia probably two months or so down the road.

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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day7
« Reply #1976 on: August 21, 2013, 07:01:51 pm »

Also interesting to note that all 3 mafia were off wagon on day1.  7 town members participated in lynching a PR day1.. I was ecstatic!
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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day7
« Reply #1977 on: August 21, 2013, 07:03:40 pm »

final post count:

robz 75
eevee 108
nkirbit 64
twisted 272
mcmc 93
raerae 135
UoS 164
chairs 108
Jimmm 106
lio 89
volt 134
shraeye 66
ash 436
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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day7
« Reply #1978 on: August 21, 2013, 07:06:19 pm »

5 - I think the MVP goes to raerae

Yes this this this.
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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day7
« Reply #1979 on: August 21, 2013, 07:07:24 pm »

Yeah, raerae for MVP.
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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day7
« Reply #1980 on: August 21, 2013, 07:07:52 pm »

I will defend ash here. I don't think he played nearly as crazily as other people claim, and he made himself obviously town, which is a major benefit in the endgame! That Jim squandered unfortunately.

He lynched a PR with no chance to claim D1, he staunchly opposed a "broken" pro-town plan, he got into a huge town-v-town fight with the only remaining PR later, and he certainly didn't make himself obvious (in my opinion), and as far as I can tell, in the opinion of most (in-thread and in the spectator thread). Which is why I'm curious for ash's take.

The town v. town fight wasn't like his fault. TA accused him, wrongly.

Ash and I were both really stubborn and really wrong. Sorry, ash.

I don't think I started following when all that started.  If you were also very stubborn, I may have been too hard on ash in the speccy.

I think the takeaway is that uninformed town should never, never think that they know something 100%.  Not even 90%.  Town v town fights are not uncommon and if one or both participants are stubborn then that can be big trouble for town.  Also, when you are accused, OMGUS is never the right reaction.  Just because someone accused you, a townie, does not mean that they are scum out to mislynch you.
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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day7
« Reply #1981 on: August 21, 2013, 07:14:04 pm »

So why was my claim so scummy? :(
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Re: CLUE Mafia (SIGN-UPS OPEN NOW)
« Reply #1982 on: August 21, 2013, 07:22:43 pm »

One and only one of these flavor names will have intentional significance in regard to roles and/or alignment. This is all I will say on the subject.

Also, what was this?
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Re: CLUE Mafia (SIGN-UPS OPEN NOW)
« Reply #1983 on: August 21, 2013, 07:25:47 pm »

One and only one of these flavor names will have intentional significance in regard to roles and/or alignment. This is all I will say on the subject.

Also, what was this?

It was ultimately Voltaire being the Tracker/Vigilante. There were a bunch of options and I chose one randomly.

The Cop as Tracker/Vig
The Cop as Detective (if that was chosen, I chose that very first)
Prof. Plum as Psychologist (if that was chosen)
Mr. Green as the Hider
Wadsworth the Butler as mafia (he ended up being that anyways)
Mrs. Peacock as mafia
Miss Scarlet as mafia
Mr. Green as Tracker/Vig

maybe more? I think that was it.
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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day7
« Reply #1984 on: August 21, 2013, 07:26:40 pm »

Well that was a crappy way to end the game.
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Re: CLUE Mafia (SIGN-UPS OPEN NOW)
« Reply #1985 on: August 21, 2013, 07:27:42 pm »

It was ultimately Voltaire being the Tracker/Vigilante.

My consolation prize. I'm special! And hella wrong about ash.
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Re: CLUE Mafia (SIGN-UPS OPEN NOW)
« Reply #1986 on: August 21, 2013, 07:30:52 pm »

It was ultimately Voltaire being the Tracker/Vigilante.

My consolation prize. I'm special! And hella wrong about ash.

Join the club :D

I got suuuuper distracted by the self-voting, and I wouldn't be surprised if I get surprised by it next time, too.
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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day7
« Reply #1987 on: August 21, 2013, 07:34:02 pm »

This is why I was posting and pushing today and raerae kept slow rolling and NOT posting cases or answers or anything.

FALSE!!!  I still think I made the right call for town.  You and I yelling at each other wouldn't have done any good (see you vs. TA).  Both of us would have come out covered in shit and Jimmmmmm would have had a harder time seeing who started that way.  Also, I did post a case on you and answered every reasonable question put to me (ie. not the stuff you were throwing at me after you decided I was scum).  Also, also, I recently, and sadly, decided that while sassy ass raerae is my favorite raerae, she really doesn't help town when it comes down to the wire like it did in this game.  Also, also, also, I didn't realize the deadline was today until last night so no, this wasn't some sneaky scum plan I had cooked up.
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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day7
« Reply #1988 on: August 21, 2013, 07:35:27 pm »

well, we won I guess...

Not that sweet, I know.
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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day7
« Reply #1989 on: August 21, 2013, 07:36:01 pm »

Your inner monologue in the mafia QT is a pretty funny read, raerae  :)
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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day7
« Reply #1990 on: August 21, 2013, 07:38:01 pm »

well, we won I guess...

Hooray!

What was your other reason for wanting the 3-man lylo?
At the time, I assumed we would kill Jimmmm and chairs, leaving mcmc-ash-raerae as the players at the end. I think either one of them would get lynched, as shown by ash saying mcmc was his top suspect in his reread during the night before he was NKed, and by mcmc deciding it was ashersky in the speccy QT. I think that lylo would be won easily. This one, not so much.

I still extra super double hard disagree with this.  Mcmc, how wrong am I?
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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day7
« Reply #1991 on: August 21, 2013, 07:39:35 pm »

Also interesting to note that all 3 mafia were off wagon on day1.  7 town members participated in lynching a PR day1.. I was ecstatic!

Hey-o!!
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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day7
« Reply #1992 on: August 21, 2013, 07:41:37 pm »

Your inner monologue in the mafia QT is a pretty funny read, raerae  :)

Just a little peep into this wackadoo brain of mine :)
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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day7
« Reply #1993 on: August 21, 2013, 07:44:04 pm »

Yuma, speccy #17 - we're down!  And I promise you would probably regret it :)
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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day7
« Reply #1994 on: August 21, 2013, 07:45:57 pm »

Yuma, speccy #17 - we're down!  And I promise you would probably regret it :)

well next time I am in (Georgia is it? truth be told I have never been even close) or the next time you are in Utah (I am guessing you haven't) we will make a date of it.
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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day7
« Reply #1995 on: August 21, 2013, 07:48:41 pm »

well, we won I guess...

Hooray!

What was your other reason for wanting the 3-man lylo?
At the time, I assumed we would kill Jimmmm and chairs, leaving mcmc-ash-raerae as the players at the end. I think either one of them would get lynched, as shown by ash saying mcmc was his top suspect in his reread during the night before he was NKed, and by mcmc deciding it was ashersky in the speccy QT. I think that lylo would be won easily. This one, not so much.

I still extra super double hard disagree with this.  Mcmc, how wrong am I?

From a third party view as you were making the decision, I think I would have left Mcmc alive instead of Jimm.  But obviously you're going to know way more about the situation you want to create than Lio does, so I am really glad you went with what you wanted and not what Lio wanted.
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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day7
« Reply #1996 on: August 21, 2013, 07:56:02 pm »

Lots of deleted posts in that speccy...
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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day7
« Reply #1997 on: August 21, 2013, 08:00:56 pm »

Vote Count 7.3

<insert flavor>

ashersky: (1) raerae
raerae: (1) ashersky

Not voting: (1) Jimmmmm

With three alive it takes two to lynch.

Deadline for Day7 is August 21, 2013 at 6 pm forum time. That is in ~ 9 hours.

Oh fuck. I read this as 9 days. Sorry guys. I think I'm done with Mafia for a while.
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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day7
« Reply #1998 on: August 21, 2013, 08:05:01 pm »

Lots of deleted posts in that speccy...

There's only 2!
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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day7
« Reply #1999 on: August 21, 2013, 08:05:34 pm »

Sorry everyone. :(  >:(  :-[  :'(
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