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[Twistedarcher]

I had a scum read on Ashersky, after believing that Jimmm was town. Investigating Mcmc had two goals: to find out if Ashersky's wagon was entirely scum composed, and to see if Mcmc was an undercover scum. I initially had PM'd Yuma to investigate Ashersky, then switched it. I'll go read my PM to him now to give you my exact reasoning at the time.

If I had a do-over, I'd have investigated Ash N2.

Why did your investigations clear Jimmmmm and mcmc, in your own mind?  You note yourself that you don't get 100% results given the nature of your claimed role.  They could have still been scum...so why give them the free pass?

Better Odds that they're town. Probably was too confident in my results, in retrospect, but oh well.

[Twistedarcher]

I'm actually surprised no one asked this question yet, it's a good one.

D1, even though Ashersky read scummy, Jimmm had two posts at the end of the day that set off alarm bells to me. I was hoping to catch an under the radar scum, as I thought there was a greater chance of Ashersky killing, if he was scum, than his partners.

D2, after Nkirbit's death, I looked at the Ashersky wagon, and realized that if Jimmm and Mcmc were scum, I had reason to believe that everyone on the wagon was scum. I was also pretty damn confident on my Ashersky case, and was hunting for the other scum. I also thought that Ashersky, once again, was more likely to perform the kill N1 or N2.

D3, my investigation didn't matter

I don't want to see the PM, I want you to explain the bolded above.

Oops. My mistake. "If Jimmm and Mcmc were TOWN, I had reason to believe that everyone on the wagon was TOWN."

In retrospect, looking at my PMs, I wasn't as confident in the Ashersky case N2 as I remembered, either, that really developed D3.

Does that explain it? I have no idea why I keep making that typo. Let me know if something else needs clearing up

[raerae]

Vote: TwistedArcher

There are way too many holes and missteps in your explanations.

[ashersky]

Vote: TwistedArcher

There are way too many holes and missteps in your explanations.

Congrats on the first hammer!

[ashersky]

Do we use Twilight giving last reads in case we die?

I mean, remaining scum kills liopoil, unless liopoil is the remaining scum, or the remaining scum wants to make us think liopoil is the remaining scum.

But really, he'll just kill liopoil, I think, given he's claimed Detective and can't be dodged.

[Twistedarcher]

I'm town. Lynch Lio tomorrow, Ash D6.

Don't blame you guys, ultimately I went on feel and that's a tough thing to explain / justify. I'll make sure to take better notes next time I'm a PR, though, because honestly when you asked me those questions, I was wondering them myself and kicking myself for not investigating Ash.

I really hope you're scum, Ash. I really do.

[liopoil]

ashersky, why do you care so much about hammers??

[ashersky]

I'm town. Lynch Lio tomorrow, Ash D6.

Don't blame you guys, ultimately I went on feel and that's a tough thing to explain / justify. I'll make sure to take better notes next time I'm a PR, though, because honestly when you asked me those questions, I was wondering them myself and kicking myself for not investigating Ash.

I really hope you're scum, Ash. I really do.

Well, if TA is town, definitely Lynch Lio tomorrow.  Doesn't make me scum, though.  I'll feel like an ass, for sure, though.

[Twistedarcher]

I'm town. Lynch Lio tomorrow, Ash D6.

Don't blame you guys, ultimately I went on feel and that's a tough thing to explain / justify. I'll make sure to take better notes next time I'm a PR, though, because honestly when you asked me those questions, I was wondering them myself and kicking myself for not investigating Ash.

I really hope you're scum, Ash. I really do.

Well, if TA is town, definitely Lynch Lio tomorrow.  Doesn't make me scum, though.  I'll feel like an ass, for sure, though.

If we're both town, I nominate us for joint-LVP. Sounds good?

[ashersky]

I'm town. Lynch Lio tomorrow, Ash D6.

Don't blame you guys, ultimately I went on feel and that's a tough thing to explain / justify. I'll make sure to take better notes next time I'm a PR, though, because honestly when you asked me those questions, I was wondering them myself and kicking myself for not investigating Ash.

I really hope you're scum, Ash. I really do.

Well, if TA is town, definitely Lynch Lio tomorrow.  Doesn't make me scum, though.  I'll feel like an ass, for sure, though.

If we're both town, I nominate us for joint-LVP. Sounds good?

Agreed.

[yuma]

Final Day4 Vote Count

"Mr. Green! That is the same Knife we saw earlier in the Kitchen," said the Singing Telegram Girl. "What did you do with it after you found it?"

"I don't remember," said Mr. Green. "I remember we were searching the Kitchen when we heard that someone had found yuma."

"Yes," said Yvette the Maid. "That was when we thought yuma had died the first time."

"Wait, you don't think that I killed yuma do you?" asked Mr. Green.

"Well somebody had to have done it, and right now the evidence points to you!" said Col. Mustard.

"I didn't do it," shouted Mr. Green.



Twistedarcher (4): ashersky, liopoil, mcmc, raerae
liopoil (1): Twistedarcher
Not Voting: (3) raerae, Jimmmm, chairs

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch.

You are now in Twilight. Night4 will begin whenever I wake up tomorrow morning. Reminder to send me a PM acknowledging the start of night (I will accept these PMs during twilight).

[liopoil]

Final Day4 Vote Count

<insert flavor>

Twistedarcher (4): ashersky, liopoil, mcmc, raerae
liopoil (1): Twistedarcher
Not Voting: (3) raerae, Jimmmm, chairs

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch.

You are now in Twilight. Night4 will begin whenever I wake up tomorrow morning. Reminder to send me a PM acknowledging the start of night (I will accept these PMs during twilight).

can TA talk in his QT?

[raerae]

Do we use Twilight giving last reads in case we die?

I mean, remaining scum kills liopoil, unless liopoil is the remaining scum, or the remaining scum wants to make us think liopoil is the remaining scum.

But really, he'll just kill liopoil, I think, given he's claimed Detective and can't be dodged.

Nobody even rereads reads so it only gives scum info...I say no.

[ashersky]

Final Day4 Vote Count

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Twistedarcher (4): ashersky, liopoil, mcmc, raerae
liopoil (1): Twistedarcher
Not Voting: (3) raerae, Jimmmm, chairs

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch.

You are now in Twilight. Night4 will begin whenever I wake up tomorrow morning. Reminder to send me a PM acknowledging the start of night (I will accept these PMs during twilight).

can TA talk in his QT?

Bolded for emphasis:

Can TA continue to talk during twilight in the QT?  Was nkirbit able to?

[ashersky]

Do we use Twilight giving last reads in case we die?

I mean, remaining scum kills liopoil, unless liopoil is the remaining scum, or the remaining scum wants to make us think liopoil is the remaining scum.

But really, he'll just kill liopoil, I think, given he's claimed Detective and can't be dodged.

Nobody even rereads reads so it only gives scum info...I say no.

I agree, and think no one should talk at all.  It just gives scum info.

I'm going on the record with "I don't like yuma's rule that scum can talk in the QT during twilight."

[yuma]

Final Day4 Vote Count

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Twistedarcher (4): ashersky, liopoil, mcmc, raerae
liopoil (1): Twistedarcher
Not Voting: (3) raerae, Jimmmm, chairs

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch.

You are now in Twilight. Night4 will begin whenever I wake up tomorrow morning. Reminder to send me a PM acknowledging the start of night (I will accept these PMs during twilight).

can TA talk in his QT?

Bolded for emphasis:

Can TA continue to talk during twilight in the QT?  Was nkirbit able to?

TA may continue to post in this thread until he is actually lynched. However, nkirbit was not allowed to post in the mafia QT after he died.

[Twistedarcher]

Final Day4 Vote Count

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Twistedarcher (4): ashersky, liopoil, mcmc, raerae
liopoil (1): Twistedarcher
Not Voting: (3) raerae, Jimmmm, chairs

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch.

You are now in Twilight. Night4 will begin whenever I wake up tomorrow morning. Reminder to send me a PM acknowledging the start of night (I will accept these PMs during twilight).

can TA talk in his QT?

Bolded for emphasis:

Can TA continue to talk during twilight in the QT?  Was nkirbit able to?

TA may continue to post in this thread until he is actually lynched. However, nkirbit was not allowed to post in the mafia QT after he died.

Give the people a flip, Yuma! They really want it!

[ashersky]

Reworded for allowable answers:

If a mafia is the lynch for the day, but hasn't yet been "lynched" due to extended twilight, may that mafia member post in their QT during twilight, up until the lynch is confirmed and the game thread locked?

[ashersky]

Also, either way, I think we should all stop talking anyway.

And if that's the case, no need for extended twilight.

[Twistedarcher]

I think that mafia should absolutely never be able to talk in a QT until after a thread is locked and a flip revealed. No idea if that's what we're doing here or not, but scum, dead or alive, shouldn't have that advantage, since it's still daytime. Right?

[ashersky]

I think that mafia should absolutely never be able to talk in a QT until after a thread is locked and a flip revealed. No idea if that's what we're doing here or not, but scum, dead or alive, shouldn't have that advantage, since it's still daytime. Right?

That's my belief, yes.

But generally, QTs aren't unlocked until this thread is locked and flips are posted.  Since that's unorthodox, I felt it was better to ask.

[yuma]

Reworded for allowable answers:

If a mafia is the lynch for the day, but hasn't yet been "lynched" due to extended twilight, may that mafia member post in their QT during twilight, up until the lynch is confirmed and the game thread locked?

No. That player may not post in the QT, but may post in the thread

[Twistedarcher]

Vote: End Twilight

[ashersky]

Reworded for allowable answers:

If a mafia is the lynch for the day, but hasn't yet been "lynched" due to extended twilight, may that mafia member post in their QT during twilight, up until the lynch is confirmed and the game thread locked?

No. That player may not post in the QT, but may post in the thread

Cool.  Cool, cool, cool.

[ashersky]

Vote: End Twilight

vote: End Twilight