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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day3
« Reply #1500 on: August 01, 2013, 11:44:19 pm »

Sigh. It's time. I have been waffling on this today. I think it's for the best.

I'm your PR, folks.

Don't have a result, but Ashersky was find enough to turn this into a me-or-him situation. Welp, I know it's him.

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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day3
« Reply #1501 on: August 01, 2013, 11:45:28 pm »

No harm in revealing now, because if Ash and partner (probs Raerae) NK tonight, they've outed themselves as scum. They need to keep me alive and hope they can convince you all that I'm lying scum.
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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day3
« Reply #1502 on: August 01, 2013, 11:45:55 pm »

Crap.
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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day3
« Reply #1503 on: August 01, 2013, 11:46:41 pm »

NK me tonight**

I can claim results tonight, or tomorrow, or whatever town things is best. I'll listen to the input of those who I think are town on this. I don't have a scum result yet, unfortunately, but I am 99.999% sure that Ashersky is scum. 
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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day3
« Reply #1504 on: August 01, 2013, 11:47:47 pm »

Vote: Ashersky

I would bet almost anything on Ashersky being scum. He made this into a me-or-him situation, when he didn't have that incentive as town. I believe in my case.
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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day3
« Reply #1505 on: August 01, 2013, 11:53:44 pm »

I am sure most of you will disagree with my decision to claim without a positive result, but I feel that my reveal as a PR will identify one scum, even if it's not in the tradition way. I see it going two ways:

1) Scum counterclaims. We either lynch scum, or lynch me then lynch scum. Either way, we get a scum -- obviously the first is better than the second, but second isn't awful. It will leave us in MYLO, still with a no-lynch in hand, and much stronger reads.

2) Scum doesn't counterclaim. We believe me. We lynch Ashersky. Great!

I am THAT sure on Ashersky being scum. I am willing to bet the game on it. He is not town, people.

Basically, my revealing will catch us Ashersky, whether it's before or after my lynch. There was no way I was going to get two positive results from investigating. Besides, they would be counterclaimed, and we'd have the same fight we're going to have today. I'd rather do it when we have mislynches to spare and 2-3 days left to play than at the end.

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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day3
« Reply #1506 on: August 02, 2013, 12:59:39 am »

vote: no lynch
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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day3
« Reply #1507 on: August 02, 2013, 01:04:07 am »

TA is lying, right?  Someone counterclaim.

TA, I look forward to your ridiculous backtracking tomorrow when everyone else finds out I'm town and you don't die tonight.
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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day3
« Reply #1508 on: August 02, 2013, 01:05:02 am »

vote: no lynch

Doesn't work.  TA changed his vote.

You can't believe that crap claim, right?  First claim is the lie.  Counterclaim is the truth.
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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day3
« Reply #1509 on: August 02, 2013, 01:06:00 am »

Vote: Ashersky

I would bet almost anything on Ashersky being scum. He made this into a me-or-him situation, when he didn't have that incentive as town. I believe in my case.

You owe this entire town a huge apology if you cause town to lose and you aren't lying scum, scum.
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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day3
« Reply #1510 on: August 02, 2013, 01:10:16 am »

TA is lying, right?  Someone counterclaim.

TA, I look forward to your ridiculous backtracking tomorrow when everyone else finds out I'm town and you don't die tonight.

Well, you, Eevee, and Jimmm have posted, with no counterclaim yet. Jimm and Eevee haven't posted explicitly that they're not counter-claiming, though.

It's interesting, because it's different than a normal claim situation. I'm not specifically pencilling anyone, so there doesn't NEED to be a counterclaim. But there still very well might be one. But counterclaiming would put scum out there, when they don't need to be out there. I really don't know what happens, and I'm interested to see who a counterclaim comes from, if anyone, since they'd just basically be outing themselves as scum to me!
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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day3
« Reply #1511 on: August 02, 2013, 01:10:37 am »

Also, no lynch is bad now.  If TA is honest, he dies tonight.  If he's lying, no reason to wait.

Lynch TA.
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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day3
« Reply #1512 on: August 02, 2013, 01:10:52 am »

Vote: Ashersky

I would bet almost anything on Ashersky being scum. He made this into a me-or-him situation, when he didn't have that incentive as town. I believe in my case.

You owe this entire town a huge apology if you cause town to lose and you aren't lying scum, scum.

I will hugely apologize if you are town and I cause us to lose this game. But I'm pretty sure that's not going to happen.
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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day3
« Reply #1513 on: August 02, 2013, 01:11:21 am »

Also, no lynch is bad now.  If TA is honest, he dies tonight.  If he's lying, no reason to wait.

Lynch TA.

If no counter claim comes, what do you suggest we do?
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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day3
« Reply #1514 on: August 02, 2013, 01:13:58 am »

Also, no lynch is bad now.  If TA is honest, he dies tonight.  If he's lying, no reason to wait.

Lynch TA.

If no counter claim comes, what do you suggest we do?

Lynch you.  If not, lynch me, see you survive the night, lynch you tomorrow, hope for the best at Lylo.
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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day3
« Reply #1515 on: August 02, 2013, 01:15:24 am »

Who did you investigate N1 and N2?
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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day3
« Reply #1516 on: August 02, 2013, 01:20:43 am »

Also, no lynch is bad now.  If TA is honest, he dies tonight.  If he's lying, no reason to wait.

Lynch TA.

If no counter claim comes, what do you suggest we do?

You really want to lynch town's last PR with no counterclaim?????

Lynch you.  If not, lynch me, see you survive the night, lynch you tomorrow, hope for the best at Lylo.
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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day3
« Reply #1517 on: August 02, 2013, 01:21:09 am »

Also, no lynch is bad now.  If TA is honest, he dies tonight.  If he's lying, no reason to wait.

Lynch TA.

If no counter claim comes, what do you suggest we do?

Lynch you.  If not, lynch me, see you survive the night, lynch you tomorrow, hope for the best at Lylo.

You really want to lynch town's last PR with no counterclaim?????
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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day3
« Reply #1518 on: August 02, 2013, 01:21:52 am »

Who did you investigate N1 and N2?

While the possibility remains that we will no-lynch today, I will not reveal whether I am the psychologist or the detective.
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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day3
« Reply #1519 on: August 02, 2013, 01:23:15 am »

Also, no lynch is bad now.  If TA is honest, he dies tonight.  If he's lying, no reason to wait.

Lynch TA.

If no counter claim comes, what do you suggest we do?

Lynch you.  If not, lynch me, see you survive the night, lynch you tomorrow, hope for the best at Lylo.

You really want to lynch town's last PR with no counterclaim?????

1) I do not believe you.  I could see lio counterclaim.
2) I see you don't want to say who you targeted.  Fishy.
3) I also suggested lynching me, if people believe you.  A mislynch is better than no lynch, now.
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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day3
« Reply #1520 on: August 02, 2013, 01:24:04 am »

Who did you investigate N1 and N2?

While the possibility remains that we will no-lynch today, I will not reveal whether I am the psychologist or the detective.

If you truly think no lynch is best, you could hammer it.

I didn't ask which role, I asked who you targeted.
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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day3
« Reply #1521 on: August 02, 2013, 01:25:16 am »

Also, no lynch is bad now.  If TA is honest, he dies tonight.  If he's lying, no reason to wait.

Lynch TA.

If no counter claim comes, what do you suggest we do?

Lynch you.  If not, lynch me, see you survive the night, lynch you tomorrow, hope for the best at Lylo.

You really want to lynch town's last PR with no counterclaim?????

1) I do not believe you.  I could see lio counterclaim.
2) I see you don't want to say who you targeted.  Fishy.
3) I also suggested lynching me, if people believe you.  A mislynch is better than no lynch, now.

1) Fair enough, I didn't expect you to state your agreement with my claim, obviously.

2) The problem with announcing my targets is that No-lynch is currently at L-1. I've announced that I have not yet received a positive result. If I announce my targets, and one of them is scum, scum will know exactly whether or not I'm a psychologist or a detective. While no-lynch remains a possibility, I will absolutely not reveal this information. If we agree that we lynch either you or I today, I will reveal this information, but not until then.

3) I agree on this point.
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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day3
« Reply #1522 on: August 02, 2013, 01:25:50 am »

Who did you investigate N1 and N2?

While the possibility remains that we will no-lynch today, I will not reveal whether I am the psychologist or the detective.

Also, stupid.  If you aren't lying, you are dying tonight.  Not worth the risk to scum.  Better to share info, no?
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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day3
« Reply #1523 on: August 02, 2013, 01:26:32 am »

You make a fair point, I guess, that targets could give away you role, were you not lying.
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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day3
« Reply #1524 on: August 02, 2013, 01:28:02 am »

Who did you investigate N1 and N2?

While the possibility remains that we will no-lynch today, I will not reveal whether I am the psychologist or the detective.

Also, stupid.  If you aren't lying, you are dying tonight.  Not worth the risk to scum.  Better to share info, no?

If you are scum, and we no-lynch tonight and I die and flip PR, which I will, you will be the lynch the next day.

Scum know I am the PR. If you are scum, which I am sure that you are, you know that you killing me would mean your death the next day. You would have a greater shot of keeping me alive, and trying to out-argue me, to avoid the lynch on D4.

Basically, if I flip PR, it's your death. You don't want to die, so you want to keep my flip hidden, since you now KNOW I am the PR. I will not be nightkilled until after you have been lynched, then I'm the auto-NK the next day.
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