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Re: BMIX: Conspiracy Theories, London Edition (Day 3)
« Reply #475 on: April 08, 2013, 09:20:13 pm »

I do believe Arch is the most likely to be SK (or to be more precise, the least likely of the WW claims to be WW. His claim was the most... Opportunistic).
That's the plan.

Did you misread Arch as ash?
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Re: BMIX: Conspiracy Theories, London Edition (Day 3)
« Reply #476 on: April 08, 2013, 09:21:06 pm »

I do believe ash more than mcmc, so my vote stays.

That's fine. You're not a WW anyway, so I would expect you to play to your own wincon, not ours.
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Re: BMIX: Conspiracy Theories, London Edition (Day 3)
« Reply #477 on: April 08, 2013, 09:21:27 pm »

If you're a WW, why did you threaten to kill 3 of us, which would go completely against your win condition.

Plus, it is called a VENGEkill for a reason.  If my own teammates turn on me, and I'm wrong about mcmc, I can exact vengeance.

Um, so your win condition changes after you get lynched?  Why else would you intentionally kill 2 people on your own team if you could have just killed one?

Nope, my win condition does not change.

I do not think I am intentionally killing two people on my team.  The team I'm trying to kill is the cult.  Mcmc is the closest thing to a cult claim we've seen, and a pretty good one at that.

I have a pretty good night action for the evening, which can help with finding out, I believe.  But first I need to not be mislynched, and second I need Archetype not to kill me.

I will reiterate, I confirmed Galzria's claim today.
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Re: BMIX: Conspiracy Theories, London Edition (Day 3)
« Reply #478 on: April 08, 2013, 09:21:55 pm »

I do believe ash more than mcmc, so my vote stays.

That's fine. You're not a WW anyway, so I would expect you to play to your own wincon, not ours.
I never said I wasn't. I am a WW
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Re: BMIX: Conspiracy Theories, London Edition (Day 3)
« Reply #479 on: April 08, 2013, 09:22:09 pm »

Arch is almost certainly not SK.  I have QT with Arch (see Arch responding to my 49 WD = Werewolves Den) that is supposed to be closed during the day, but we each got 3 posts during this day after last night was cut short.  We had them used up, so he had to respond to my last comment in the game thread.

Why do you have a QT?  Masons?  Cult?

I specifically did NOT receive a QT, even though I am a WW.
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Re: BMIX: Conspiracy Theories, London Edition (Day 3)
« Reply #480 on: April 08, 2013, 09:22:36 pm »

Specifically @ Galz:

You've played and modded with me enough.  Do you really think I'm fakeclaiming this?
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Re: BMIX: Conspiracy Theories, London Edition (Day 3)
« Reply #481 on: April 08, 2013, 09:23:51 pm »

Arch is almost certainly not SK.  I have QT with Arch (see Arch responding to my 49 WD = Werewolves Den) that is supposed to be closed during the day, but we each got 3 posts during this day after last night was cut short.  We had them used up, so he had to respond to my last comment in the game thread.

Ah, that's fine then.

Interesting that you two have a QT as well as mcmc/Jorbles/Robz.

Hmm.

Unvote: Ashersky

And.... Mail-Mi, Axxle or Spirit? Hmm...

Vote: Spiritbears for now.
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Re: BMIX: Conspiracy Theories, London Edition (Day 3)
« Reply #482 on: April 08, 2013, 09:24:06 pm »

Suprise, suprise! Razzishi and I are WW masons!

We also have some other tricks up our hairy sleeves, but I'd rather not claim them now.
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Re: BMIX: Conspiracy Theories, London Edition (Day 3)
« Reply #483 on: April 08, 2013, 09:24:31 pm »

Arch is almost certainly not SK.  I have QT with Arch (see Arch responding to my 49 WD = Werewolves Den) that is supposed to be closed during the day, but we each got 3 posts during this day after last night was cut short.  We had them used up, so he had to respond to my last comment in the game thread.

Ah, that's fine then.

Interesting that you two have a QT as well as mcmc/Jorbles/Robz.

Hmm.

Unvote: Ashersky

And.... Mail-Mi, Axxle or Spirit? Hmm...

Vote: Spiritbears for now.
No, vote Axxle. He's lying.

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Re: BMIX: Conspiracy Theories, London Edition (Day 3)
« Reply #484 on: April 08, 2013, 09:25:05 pm »

And.... Mail-Mi, Axxle or Spirit? Hmm...
Why am I lumped in there?
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Re: BMIX: Conspiracy Theories, London Edition (Day 3)
« Reply #485 on: April 08, 2013, 09:25:38 pm »

Arch is almost certainly not SK.  I have QT with Arch (see Arch responding to my 49 WD = Werewolves Den) that is supposed to be closed during the day, but we each got 3 posts during this day after last night was cut short.  We had them used up, so he had to respond to my last comment in the game thread.

Ah, that's fine then.

Interesting that you two have a QT as well as mcmc/Jorbles/Robz.

Hmm.

Unvote: Ashersky

And.... Mail-Mi, Axxle or Spirit? Hmm...

Vote: Spiritbears for now.
No, vote Axxle. He's lying.

Vote: Axxle

I claimed before almost everyone.
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Re: BMIX: Conspiracy Theories, London Edition (Day 3)
« Reply #486 on: April 08, 2013, 09:29:16 pm »

Specifically @ Galz:

You've played and modded with me enough.  Do you really think I'm fakeclaiming this?

I think you have a Vengekill, yes. I also (at this time) believe mcmc. If you're a WW, and you're right about mcmc, and we lynch you - great. But if he is what he claims (and I base much of my belief in him on Jorbles flip), and you're a WW, then your choice on lynch would screw us over.

So. What should I do? If you're not a WW, that's a great fakeclaim because it's the one that has the potential to hurt us the most. Right?

We could ignore your and mcmc today and lynch one of the "Scum!Town" (likely Mail-Mi/Spirit/Axxle), which is where I'm at now... But I'm not sold.

I can't justify lynching mcmc however because if he's telling the truth we're throwing the game at a very winnable stage.
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Re: BMIX: Conspiracy Theories, London Edition (Day 3)
« Reply #487 on: April 08, 2013, 09:30:41 pm »

Arch is almost certainly not SK.  I have QT with Arch (see Arch responding to my 49 WD = Werewolves Den) that is supposed to be closed during the day, but we each got 3 posts during this day after last night was cut short.  We had them used up, so he had to respond to my last comment in the game thread.

Why do you have a QT?  Masons?  Cult?

I specifically did NOT receive a QT, even though I am a WW.

I didn't have one to start, but eHal gave me one when he did all that "Vote QT" business.
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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
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Re: BMIX: Conspiracy Theories, London Edition (Day 3)
« Reply #488 on: April 08, 2013, 09:31:30 pm »

Fine, fine. I'll claim, just to get the liar lynched.

I'm a WW 1-shot Psychologist.

A psychologist is sort of like an actual Cop, but much weaker. They can target someone and if they have the ability to kill, I get a positive result. If they've already killed, I get a negative result.

I targeted Axxle last night and got a positive result. So he can kill, but hasn't yet.
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Re: BMIX: Conspiracy Theories, London Edition (Day 3)
« Reply #489 on: April 08, 2013, 09:33:48 pm »

Specifically @ Galz:

You've played and modded with me enough.  Do you really think I'm fakeclaiming this?

I think you have a Vengekill, yes. I also (at this time) believe mcmc. If you're a WW, and you're right about mcmc, and we lynch you - great. But if he is what he claims (and I base much of my belief in him on Jorbles flip), and you're a WW, then your choice on lynch would screw us over.

So. What should I do? If you're not a WW, that's a great fakeclaim because it's the one that has the potential to hurt us the most. Right?

We could ignore your and mcmc today and lynch one of the "Scum!Town" (likely Mail-Mi/Spirit/Axxle), which is where I'm at now... But I'm not sold.

I can't justify lynching mcmc however because if he's telling the truth we're throwing the game at a very winnable stage.
I'm a freaking WW!

Anyway, I don't really believe ash or mcmc (I do believe ash more, however) so if we can kill 3 birds with one stone, lets kill ash. Vote: ashersky
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Re: BMIX: Conspiracy Theories, London Edition (Day 3)
« Reply #490 on: April 08, 2013, 09:34:20 pm »

Fine, fine. I'll claim, just to get the liar lynched.

I'm a WW 1-shot Psychologist.

A psychologist is sort of like an actual Cop, but much weaker. They can target someone and if they have the ability to kill, I get a positive result. If they've already killed, I get a negative result.

I targeted Axxle last night and got a positive result. So he can kill, but hasn't yet.

Why Axxle?

1-shot, so why N2?

Axxle did have that crazy secret way of claiming which seems less likely to be fake.  WW Vig?
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Re: BMIX: Conspiracy Theories, London Edition (Day 3)
« Reply #491 on: April 08, 2013, 09:35:02 pm »

I actually think Spiritbears is most like to be "town" in his PM, given his reaction to the whole chain of crazy WW claiming we've had so far.
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Re: BMIX: Conspiracy Theories, London Edition (Day 3)
« Reply #492 on: April 08, 2013, 09:35:53 pm »

Why Axxle?

1-shot, so why N2?
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Re: BMIX: Conspiracy Theories, London Edition (Day 3)
« Reply #493 on: April 08, 2013, 09:36:12 pm »

Fine, fine. I'll claim, just to get the liar lynched.

I'm a WW 1-shot Psychologist.

A psychologist is sort of like an actual Cop, but much weaker. They can target someone and if they have the ability to kill, I get a positive result. If they've already killed, I get a negative result.

I targeted Axxle last night and got a positive result. So he can kill, but hasn't yet.
No you didn't. I'm a WW watcher. I watched Axxle. I did not see you target him. Vote: Archetype
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Re: BMIX: Conspiracy Theories, London Edition (Day 3)
« Reply #494 on: April 08, 2013, 09:38:26 pm »

Archetype was lying so I didn't have to full claim yet.  But now I do.  I actually know that the real scum are spiritbears, Axxle, and jotheonah.  Axxle2 was also one of them, and they are called Conspiracy Theorists.  I know this because I am also one of them, but was recruited by Archetype to be a WW.
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Re: BMIX: Conspiracy Theories, London Edition (Day 3)
« Reply #495 on: April 08, 2013, 09:41:26 pm »

Archetype was lying so I didn't have to full claim yet.  But now I do.  I actually know that the real scum are spiritbears, Axxle, and jotheonah.  Axxle2 was also one of them, and they are called Conspiracy Theorists.  I know this because I am also one of them, but was recruited by Archetype to be a WW.
Ooh ooh ooh Vote: Spiritbears
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Re: BMIX: Conspiracy Theories, London Edition (Day 3)
« Reply #496 on: April 08, 2013, 09:42:05 pm »

And they also can recruit someone that has died.  Sorta twice, once is any night on anyone dead, once requires 2 of them to be left and it suicides the person recruiting.
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Re: BMIX: Conspiracy Theories, London Edition (Day 3)
« Reply #497 on: April 08, 2013, 09:43:03 pm »

Yeah... no.

Vote: Archetype

Arch then Razz, Razz then Arch, I don't care. The way Razz came out to protect Arch makes me think that Arch is too powerful a role to leave around another night.
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Re: BMIX: Conspiracy Theories, London Edition (Day 3)
« Reply #498 on: April 08, 2013, 09:44:09 pm »

Arch: was that a lie to save Razz from full claiming like (s)he says?
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Re: BMIX: Conspiracy Theories, London Edition (Day 3)
« Reply #499 on: April 08, 2013, 09:44:32 pm »

Archetype was lying so I didn't have to full claim yet.
Sorry! Didn't know if you wanted me to explain for you yet!

I'll do my for-real claim now:

Eevee and I are WW Masons. We both requested to be Cultists, so eHalc gave us a Cult-like power. A 1-shot Mason recruitment. We decided to use it N1 on Razzishi since he was being the most Town. Seems like mcmcsalot had a similar role, except with Lovers.

Razzishi spilled the beans about the Conspiracy Theorists, so that's how I know Axxle is lying. They also have a factional kill, so beware of that.

Oh yeah. They can be either Scum or Town. It depends on eHalc's mood of which alignment he wants to display.
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