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[ashersky]

The text of the PM said that somebody had gotten to Jorbles before I did, and that there appeared to be a heavy amount of cosmetics on him - that underneath the horrible looks was a normal - although quite grotesque - human being.

Now, my PM did NOT say "Town", but I took it to mean that he wasn't what the opening flavor stated.

I think it means that deep down the WWs are merely weird looking people, and are only hiding from Town because the Town will kill them.  That is, WWs are not scum, even if they have a red role name.  I would really like mcmc to make an honest full claim verifying that, not being afraid to tell us that he's a WW.  I certainly won't lynch him for it.

Are you a WW too?  I mean, sounds like you are a defender of them here...

[Axxle]

I am a werewolf as well. I have no nk, and nothing I have claimed has been a lie or mistruth. Other than I may have said I didn't know jorbles was a ww, I knew that.

I'm 24 and what is this?

[Galzria]

I am a werewolf as well. I have no nk, and nothing I have claimed has been a lie or mistruth. Other than I may have said I didn't know jorbles was a ww, I knew that.

Should we not lynch the admitted WW who is tied as a Lover to a new WW?

I mean, are we really supposed to believe that WWs are town and not scum?

No we should not

&

Yes, we are.

[ashersky]

I am a werewolf as well. I have no nk, and nothing I have claimed has been a lie or mistruth. Other than I may have said I didn't know jorbles was a ww, I knew that.

Should we not lynch the admitted WW who is tied as a Lover to a new WW?

I mean, are we really supposed to believe that WWs are town and not scum?

No we should not

&

Yes, we are.

Are you a WW?

[mail-mi]

I am a werewolf as well. I have no nk, and nothing I have claimed has been a lie or mistruth. Other than I may have said I didn't know jorbles was a ww, I knew that.

I'm 24 and what is this?

??(directed at Axxle)??

[mcmcsalot]

I am a werewolf as well. I have no nk, and nothing I have claimed has been a lie or mistruth. Other than I may have said I didn't know jorbles was a ww, I knew that.

Should we not lynch the admitted WW who is tied as a Lover to a new WW?

I mean, are we really supposed to believe that WWs are town and not scum?

At this point in time I'm actually not sure.

Apologies for being short before I had little time and was very confused on what to do.

I win when all threats to the ww's are eliminated but I have no nk.

[mail-mi]

I am a werewolf as well. I have no nk, and nothing I have claimed has been a lie or mistruth. Other than I may have said I didn't know jorbles was a ww, I knew that.

Should we not lynch the admitted WW who is tied as a Lover to a new WW?

I mean, are we really supposed to believe that WWs are town and not scum?

No we should not

&

Yes, we are.

No, we should not not lynch them? (Lynch them)
Or no, we should not lynch them?

[mcmcsalot]

So heres what I suggest, I think it should be believable that I have no nk. That means I am of no threat, whenever robz gets her he can confirm the act that I am a neighborizer and not a cult.

[ashersky]

I win when all threats to the ww's are eliminated but I have no nk.

This, by definition, means you are NOT town.  Town members are threats to WWs, so WWs need to kill town.

The ONLY other explanation that seems to fit what others are hinting at:

eHal has switched the names, and the majority of this game is WWs who have to survive by killing town, who have NKs.  But who the heck would believe that?

[mcmcsalot]

So even if we aren't confident that ww is town, you can lynch me later killing morgrim and myself. Untill then I am harmless.

[Razzishi]

Are you a WW too?  I mean, sounds like you are a defender of them here...

I already soft-claimed it enough.  I have the same win condition as mcmc.  The threats to the WWs are the ones that we care about, not the WWs.

[Galzria]

Razz is also a WW (which I guessed yesterday). As am I. I had no knowledge of anybody else's alignment to start the game.

My full role is WW Alarmist Doctor. Alarmist (look it up) being a role that cries Cult when there isn't actually one in existence. And while I DO Doctor against Cult Conversion, I also Doctor normally (can be separate targets, although I've kept them the same each night). Why Jorbles died though is beyond me.

[ashersky]

So heres what I suggest, I think it should be believable that I have no nk. That means I am of no threat, whenever robz gets her he can confirm the act that I am a neighborizer and not a cult.

Someone has an NK, since someone killed Jorbles and Axxle2.  Therefore, someone is scum.

WW = scum in all known definitions, unless eHal loves Twilight.  (note: I know eHal knows Buffy.)

[Archetype]

I am also a WW.

[mcmcsalot]

I win when all threats to the ww's are eliminated but I have no nk.

This, by definition, means you are NOT town.  Town members are threats to WWs, so WWs need to kill town.

The ONLY other explanation that seems to fit what others are hinting at:

eHal has switched the names, and the majority of this game is WWs who have to survive by killing town, who have NKs.  But who the heck would believe that?

Okay, well I have in fact claimed ww, there's no going back and getting myself out of this later. If we decide ww is scum I am fine with dying.

[Razzishi]

Town members are threats to WWs

How do you know this?  I wasn't told that.  I think it's in your "Town" role PM, and you're the SK that's the source of the NKs.

vote: ashersky

[ashersky]

Razz is also a WW (which I guessed yesterday). As am I. I had no knowledge of anybody else's alignment to start the game.

My full role is WW Alarmist Doctor. Alarmist (look it up) being a role that cries Cult when there isn't actually one in existence. And while I DO Doctor against Cult Conversion, I also Doctor normally (can be separate targets, although I've kept them the same each night). Why Jorbles died though is beyond me.

So far, claimed/dead WWs:

Jorbles
mcmc
Galz
Razz

Anyone else?  I mean, with 14 alive, a scum team needs what, 7 to win?  And that's insane.  So, do we think that WWs are part of town and we're searching for mafia?

[ashersky]

Town members are threats to WWs

How do you know this?  I wasn't told that.  I think it's in your "Town" role PM, and you're the SK that's the source of the NKs.

vote: ashersky

From playing a gazillion games of mafia, and being WW in one of them, and trying to kill WWs in another.

[Galzria]

My guess to eHal was that "Red text WW's" are the uninformed majority (commonly called "town" in most games),and "Green text 'Town'" are the informed minority (commonly called scum). I believe Axxle2 was "scum".

[mcmcsalot]

vote: ashersky

Robz said he had lots to tell me but was worried about morgrim. I'm going to guess he is a ww as well.

[spiritbears]

Galzira almost confirms cult, mcmc describes a cult, we could kill scum or cult leader (with the bonus of killing the unusual morgrim role), yep mcmc is the best place for the lynch today.

Have to agree.  All of sudden there are a lot of claims flying around.  Either way, ww, cult, or just plain scum, Mc is a good target in my estimation.

[mcmcsalot]

Oh and I was informed morgrim is now a ww as well.

[mcmcsalot]

so axxle2, ashersky, mail-mi, spiritbears are not ww.

mcmcsalot, galzria, jorbles(morgrim), archetype are ww.

[mail-mi]

Are you playing a different game than I am?  I'm pretty sure this game isn't normal.  Recall that there were no rules posted at all.  We have no reason to believe that the standard game of Mafia is even being played.  For instance, one of my many theories is that we're all Town.  How would there be a game, you ask?  Well, consider that I am told I win when there are no threats to me left.  Maybe some of the Townsfolk are threats to me, and some aren't.  Those supposed threats might be in the same boat I am, winning when there are no threats to them left.  They're not scum because they have a town-styled win condition and no night-kill, but they might still be designated a threat to me because of flavor reasons or whatever.  I suspect each of us (or at least the vast majority of us) is a werewolf, vampire, alien, conspiracy theorist, piece of cheese, or similar that certain other groups consider threatening, but not all groups.  We have no clue which groups are threatening, we just have to play until the mod tell us the game is over.

My attitude towards this is certainly going to draw suspicion on me, but consider the fact that I chose to play in a Bastard game for my first one here.  I like thinking up wild and crazy ideas for how the mod is going to screw around with out preconceptions of how Mafia is played, and I would regardless of my alignment.

Razzishi suggested this. Maybe this is true.

[ashersky]

Oh and I was informed morgrim is now a ww as well.

Dude, your dribbling crazy claims a little a time is NOT helping your credibility.